There’s a good Comments Page down below this post, much better than the post I’d written! and so I encourage you to take a look at that….and something came up which prompts this impromptu Friday morning post from me. See what you think:
We know now, with almost certainty, that the Ferguson guy who got killed wasn’t just minding his own business and got killed. He’s on video stealing a bunch of cigars and pushing around the owner of the store and running out with his loot.
Johnathan Gentry, the amazing Black man in Lisa’s Blog’s video (and it’s on mine, Imp posted it on my post below this), who is ranting against Black Americans breaking laws and giving the NAACP any credence, and telling Blacks to “Just do what they ask you. I’ve been stopped many times in Los Angeles, but I comply and I get told to move on… no problem.”
So, this got me thinking. And, please, don’t think I’m so naïve as to think all cops are good cops and this would work always, but I think MOST are. And most have families and their own lives to protect for themselves and their families, and who wants to put themselves in the line of fire, but THEY DO, they CHOOSE to ‘preserve and protect’ as the LAPD’s motto is. So, they’re hopped up, let’s face it! They’re scared, too, right? Here’s my thought:
IF, WHEN STOPPED IN A CAR OR EVEN WHEN TRYING TO STEAL SOMETHING, BLACK (AND WHITE) PERPS SAID “YOU’RE RIGHT. I WAS SPEEDING…” OR “YA, I TOOK IT AND I’M SORRY.” OR “I HAVE DONE NOTHING, PLEASE CHECK MY I.D. AND MY RECORD AND KNOW I’M NO THREAT TO THIS WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD, I’M JUST DRIVING THROUGH…” and IF the cops complied with “YA, YOU WERE SPEEING, HERE’S A TICKET.” OR “I HAVE TO ARREST YOU FOR STEALING …” OR “YES, I’LL CHECK, AND I’LL LET YOU GO, SORRY TO HAVE STOPPED YOU, WE’VE HAD TROUBLE BEFORE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY’RE ON ME TO BE MORE CAREFUL.” WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?
The CYCLE OF VIOLENCE is a VICIOUS CYCLE propelled and propagated by EVERYBODY OVER REACTING………..Can we BLAME cops when they get serious lip, or a gun drawn on them, for reacting? Can we BLAME all kids who are stopped for getting ticked off when they’ve done nothing?
IF EVERYBODY CALMED DOWN, IF KIDS APOLOGIZED, IF THE COPS LISTENED BETTER AND DIDN’T EXPECT THE WORST, COULD THAT HELP? One year of this and do you think the vicious cycle might be broken?
Gentry says “Humble yourself!” “Obey the cop” Heck, even CHRIS ROCK says it in the video here! HE GETS IT! … would it work? That video is HILARIOUS, by the way…and I believe it goes along with my theory, don’t you?!!
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Well…..here’s my question. Black males in America…..who should they fear more? Cops? Or other black men? Cause the cops aren’t shooting 40 or 87 people in a weekend, are they? It’s attitude….all about attitude adjustment. Which I don’t think will ever change.
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Imp…there are folks who’ll never get it, no doubt about it. They’re steeped in the political correct world which has told them from the cradle on that they’re oppressed and the cops are out to get them. And yes, WHY won’t Black on Black crime get the visibility White on Black does? PC, of course. It’s not a sexy story when a Black kid kills another Black kid. We think it’s worthwhile news, right? But it doesn’t seem to be important at all to Bubble Head Sharpton or “THE REVEREND” Jesse Jackson, or even to our own president. Maybe when those folks start speaking out half as loudly as they have on this Ferguson case, we MIGHT make some headway.
Why should Black folks feel they’re targets? They are not, unless they do the wrong thing. I’d have thought they’d appreciate seeing cops of EVERY COLOR up on a stand around a microphone bemoaning BLACK on BLACK crime because it’s their families getting killed!! But they’re steeped in the victimhood BS!
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Well, this is the correct approach all things being equal. The two major obstacles are the paying of women to pop out democrat voters by the bushel and the sharpton/jackson/holder/obama gang who are profiting form inciting black people to civil disobedience.
I wonder how many of these people in the news like Mr Brown are in these single mother family trees ?
Getting rid of those two issues might open a pathway to your idea. And what happened to Mr Non-Violence MLK’s ideas that worked very well. In the trash I guess.
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@Z: I could not have said it any better.
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PS, Check out the Lyrics to Ball of Confusion. Temptations, 1971
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Ball-Of-Confusion-lyrics-The-Temptations/5CE42244EBDFE10448256D8F0028A6B7
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And, Kid, we see people like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson, raised without fathers, or difficult, poor family situations and THEY MAKE IT! THEY DO, right!? BIG TIME. it IS about single mothers and the fact that that singleness usually makes them hard up for money and usually draws them to the Democrats for handouts….we need to break that cycle, too, and help all Americans realize they are part of the dream. You’re right, Dr King had that dream and I believe that, without Sharpton and Jackson and all the rest of the pimps, we could have kept that dream going. We all know WAY too many Black Americans who are living the exact same lives we are…raising families, putting kids through college. I sure know MANY! GREAT GREAT PEOPLE.
Perhaps we need them to get out there and speak, but heck…..who can fight the “Sharpton Gravy Train?”
And, let’s not kid ourselves…I once spoke with a Washington lawyer friend some years back who told me clearly what he knew about Jesse Jackson and unions hiring him to come and settle the employees down at Coca-Cola, etc……he got big bucks, the employees believed Jackson, and the company won. Employees were blinded and settled for zip because JACKSON WAS HELPING THEM. ya, right. (sarc)
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@Kid: I saw the Mom and “dad” on TV with that Chump lawyer. The same one that set up Trayvons “mom and dad”. It’s about the money and the gold ring and reparations beyond their wildest dreams. Trust me….the city will pay up. They’ll mouth all the “right’ nonsense and faked outrage that the “kid’ wasn’t a hood or a gangster ( even though the video plays differently )…Trayvonns an old memory…and the race pimps need this to fill up their pimp wallets, bank accounts, expense accounts and make sure they get to be in Armani suits and Rolexes…for the next few years. Until the next one comes along.
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Great lyrics, Kid. Thanks for that link. Chris Rock’s line about getting stopped by the police might provoke you NOT to blow pot smoke in their faces because then they just might “Kick yo Ass” relates, doesn’t it. Important lyrics. So much of it relates to the situation today…man,you’d think we’d have over come that.
Pastor Gentry in that video sure thinks we could………….
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@Z: All these mutts under 25 know about MLK is that it’s a day off.
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@Z, Exacta-handout. jackson also makes a lot of money extorting companies who don’t have enough black people involved.
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I just watched the Police Chief’s press Conference…he said he was supposed to meet with Brown’s parents but they couldn’t meet yesterday because they hadn’t consulted enough with their lawyer. I’d have thought they’d want to get together in any case, but…
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Remember Rodney King, the Black guy that got badly beaten during the Watts Riot in L.A. in the early 60’s? Afterward he said “Can’t we all just get along?” Nothings changed since then, has it?
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Imp; imagine? The black community’s ‘elders’ keep MLK’s words out of the kids’ knowledge because it might go against the ‘elders’s pimping of them $$$??
Kid….right. I suppose the next stop on that train will be suing the Ferguson PD for not having enough Black cops.
ALL: I just saw the MOST blatant CRAP on CNN after the Police Chief’s Presser: I had JUST HEARD these words from him “The policeman stopped Brown and his friend because they were walking down the street, down the middle of the street IMPEDING TRAFFIC”
After the Press Conf., the CNN woman, and Don Lemon (who’s there in Ferguson and can Barely be heard over the screaming and chanting of the folks behind him but he NEVER ONCE has the guts to turn around and at least say ‘can you let me just finish my news feed for a minute?’…noooo, God forbid he tells them how to act properly)…. Anyway, the woman on CNN proceeds to say “Wow, isn’t this shocking? The policeman who shot Brown didn’t know about the robbery attempt, he just approached him for WALKING DOWN THE STREET”
I thought “Wait….walking down the street IMPEDING TRAFFIC, STUPID” my GOD
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it might have without the NAACP, Sharpton, Jackson, Holder….you name it.
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Oh, and the CNN woman added so sadly “he was just on his way to his grandmother’s house..”
wow. So, since the robbery “had nothing to do with the shooting,” we’re to overlook that HE STOLE (the cigars were on his body when he died, by the way, according to the Chief).
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And I’m sure you know that the coverup, whitewash and lies are coming out full bore from the press and the kids side. The fact that the brute was taped being a thug…is all a misunderstanding and “slandering” his good name. I thought I was tapped out after the Martin / Zimmerman hoax….but it deja vu all over again. These people cannot be honest…cannot change.
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@Imp
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Was this cop justified? Watch it over and over.
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Good shoot…..fake gun.
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@Z: “he was just on his way to his grandmother’s house..”wow. So, since the robbery “had nothing to do”?
These idiots are on their way to creating nursery rhymes for this blob.
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I think I understand the black viewpoint of those folks in Ferguson. In my home town it was not a secret that white cops had a daily battle against a lawless black community element. I personally knew a guy who was a part-time cop, and went to jail for killing a black prostitute. In his cruising (with partners) he had developed such a hatred and disrespect of black people that he committed the horrendous act. He bragged about being to hit people with his stick. One thing leads to another.
He had related to me that whenever his squad car reacted to incidents in black neighborhoods, the cops had to show that there was no fear, and that they would take any action against the blacks to keep order. In some cases whenever black people obeyed the cops, some smart-ass cop would do some extra beating to assuage his downtrodden ego.
Strangely the only time I was ever threatened by a cop was at a football game, and the cop was black. The threat was personal, and I had the good sense to keep my mouth shut even though I had done nothing except stand up while watching the game. Otherwise, he could have used his nightstick and assumed authority to try to correct about four hundred years of persecution.
MIchael Brown was undoubtedly up to no-good. The convenience store showed him to be a virtual giant compared to others in the store. The kid was big and bad. Even though we don’t know what exactly transpired at the killing, it seems to me that the only redeeming reason for the cop to shoot a gun was to defend himself. Period.
Now, the black community and much of the white community want to see a cop prosecuted. Small wonder when you consider the historical relationship between police and the black community.
I don’t have answers except that I know there are answers. It does not help that the President of The United States and the Attorney General assume there was a violation of civil rights. It is time for our leaders to have that serious conversation about race they have promised, and stop grandstanding.
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@Bob The pres, the AG, and the others are profiting too much off of their creation (LBJ welfare state, paying women to breed democrats – I agree with Mustang Obviously) to do anything about it. They don’t care about these people.
And it’s a typical libtard operation. “Hey let’s do this and have a lifelong ever increasing supply of democrat voters.” None of these problems ever occurred to them as being potential. They’ll deploy their usual defensive weapons of “Unintended consequences and we didn’t spend enough money”. But pure incompetent evil gets very good at coming up with excuses to hide their failures. These days, it’s the tea party racists and Bush’s fault, and all us domestic terrorists on the right. I only hope I don’t see any democrats in the afterlife for then I will know I am in hell.
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What’s worse than killing someone ? Put them in position to suffer for a lifetime.
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Kid: I understand, and agree with many of the opinions on this blog. The direction I took was to present the view that even though others don’t care about what happened, I care. I care about the kid who got shot. I care about his family. it’s all bad stuff, and the MSM, race baiters, and political leaders are making another Trayvon Martin event. It will be a circus.
All these others are just vultures waiting for an event like this. I know the vultures are out for their gain. But, I don’t want to lose sight of the fact that a kid, even a bad kid, was shot and we have no knowledge, yet, as to what happened.
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@Bob Absolutely agree. We sane people Do care about those born into such an environment. Notice my PS above to my own comment. It’s maddening. There is plenty of needless suffering here and to make matters worse, those responsible don’t care, and many of those who support those who don’t care (dem politicians) don’t have a freakin clue because they’ve been mis and uneducated and informed by those who don’t care. Wild isn’t it? And it’s not getting better, it’s getting worse.
Is it that hard to understand? Rhetorical.
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Perhaps the answer is simply to have primarily Black cops in primarily Black neighborhoods. Period. the race factor can’t be used.
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If everyone constantly blamed others for their situations we would be a stagnant society. Thanks for the shout out Z. I particularly like the ending how he says let’s move forward as a nation.
A very positive thinker.
Good idea VK
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How can it be justified when the guy has the gun on the ground? HOW?
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Bob, I don’t know if you read my post but this statement of yours “In some cases whenever black people obeyed the cops, some smart-ass cop would do some extra beating to assuage his downtrodden ego.” really plays into it. My suggestion is for all Blacks to just DO WHAT YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, OBEY, BE A GOOD CITIZEN…and see how the cops change, etc. That vicious cycle of mistrust could stop! But with information like you gave us? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? What a HORRID cop!
It’s sad to hear this about the Black communities….I urge you to watch the Chris Rock video and the other one linked in my post above. You’ll enjoy both, I assure you !!!
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Bob, I care greatly that Black kids are dying. My biggest beef is why don’t the Sharptons of this world give a damn when Black kids kill other Black kids? Why aren’t the Black victim pimps like Jackson and Sharpton doing press conferences in Chicago, where 47 Blacks died in ONE WEEKEND this past year?
They don’t want to look like they believe Blacks are wrong? Imagine how much it would help if we had a president who actually cared more about Black kids than he cares about banning all guns?
If anybody here thinks the media coverage would have been this HUGE if the kid had been beaten to death by a cop, I believe you’re wrong.
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Vegas…not a bad idea, but a very, very sad statement of our society today, isn’t it.
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Oh, yes, Mustang….the Police Chief said he was supposed to meet with the family the other day but they hadn’t quite lawyered themselves up yet. This kid’s death will put them on EASY STREET. BIG TIME.
I worry about the cop’s family…
I am so sick of racial problems and despise Obama for not doing better than he’s done…he’s only made things worse.
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Z. The perp had a gun in his belt. The cop behind him saw it and yelled gun. The gun is in his dead hand on the ground.
That’s the point. Witnesses mean little if they have the wrong vantage point or are not trained to see the details..
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Z: Chris Rock does a fantastic job. It is good advice for everybody. It’s kind of like a situation I knew when a man that live in my town was pulled-over at 2:00 AM for drunk driving. He had been out late with friends from the office, and had a few beers.
However, the cops arrested him for drunk driving without having convincing evidence, and tried to falsify other evidence. I was on the jury that cleared the guy. The moral of the story is “Don’t be out at 2:00 AM because the cops are looking for someone to stop”.
Your point is well taken, Z. Why cannot black and white kids understand this? If you want to have trouble with the law, just hang-out in places where this is expected conduct.
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How about black ops black cops?
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We also remember that Rodney King had a passenger who was unmolested. Nobody knows that. He never made the news because nothing happened to him. But he behaved differently from King and complied with the police.
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<a href="http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/08/15/swisher-sweets-theft-may-be-key-detail-in-brown-shooting-case/Swisher Sweets as drug paraphernalia? The link goes to Pajamas Media.
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Ugh.
Swisher Sweets as drug paraphernalia.
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Ed,
The perp had a gun in his belt. The cop behind him saw it and yelled gun. The gun is in his dead hand on the ground.
What???
I haven’t been on the web much the past few days.
Where did you learn that information?
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Sure…and only hispanic cops or asian cops or muslim cops depending on the dominant racial or ethnic makeup of a city? Then logically that would exclude those cops in predominately white communities, wouldn’t it? Then Boston or Cambridge or Martha’s Vineyard wouldn’t have anything but white Irish cops or Italian cops…etc? It need not end at race, right? That also suggests to me that blacks would only respect black cops…or black cops would look the other way and accept a “culture” of lawlessness or crime? So…the conclusion is that blacks are the real racists then? The last two elections would support that IMO.
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Like I said ED…good shoot.
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Arizona Watermelon flavored tea and skittles too with a little cough syrup. Entrepreneurs and inventiveness, right?
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He was referring to the short video he posted.
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Z. That isn’t a Ferguson video.
It’s another cop shooting that shows that witnesses are not always reliable.
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Baysider; what an EXCELLENT observation. Yes, now I absolutely DO remember there was someone with him and he did not get much press AT ALL…if any. But you are 100% correct. It really is a terrific illustration of Chris Rock’s video…”Just stay cool!” And bring a WHITE FRIEND with you in the car.. That about killed me laughing!
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Imp; that is a hysterical line…yes , like Brown was GOLDILOCKS on the way to grandma’s house, huh? A point well appreciated, Imp. !!!
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Oops…sometimes I put replies in the wrong place. Another reason to only reply down below.
Imp, please see my response to your NURSEY RHYME line…great one, Imp!
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Ed…I know that! Thanks.
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Z. Sorry, meant to address AOW. Got confused on this little tablet.
Imp. Thanks
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Ed. thanks! ya the little ones are harder to navigate.
thanks. xx
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