CUBA….your thoughts?

Yes, I really wanted input on my post below today, but how could I not mention CUBA once that happened this morning and ask your reactions to Obama’s sweeping orders that, suddenly, Cuba’s not so bad…after all, they helped do something against Ebola!  WHAT A COUNTRY!  And he spoke to Raoul Castro this morning, and I’m SURE he’s a really great guy on the phone, right?   And heck, Alan Gross was there for five years which is despicable and he’s out…hurrah! …But wait…would you promote normalcy with any country that would keep an American for FIVE years? oops, Barack, I guess YOU would, you numbskull.

So, we’re ALL exceptional countries today in the world, RIGHT?  Heck, Cuba’s not SO bad; and heck, isn’t it COOL for the left to be all excited to get to visit their heroes now….have a little fun in the Commie sun in Havana?

Well, I guess you know how I FEEL about it………..how about you?

Z

 

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43 Responses to CUBA….your thoughts?

  1. Kid says:

    I wonder if this means a soon to be flood of Cuban’s to America’s social security, welfare and WIC systems..

  2. geeez2014 says:

    Kucinich just said we’ve “lost some of our moral authority” with the CIA report, so heck….what can we expect from Cuba? Yes, he did. wow. This isn’t the mindset of only Kucinich. You know that.

    I hope you’re hearing what Marco Rubio has to say; A patriot. God bless him. But it won’t make a dent in the thick skull of Barack.

    It’s dawned on me only this second how REALLY DANGEROUS Dennis Kucinich’s thinking is; is that going to be the mantra for anything we demand be made better, to hold to a higher standard:? “Well, look at our own CIA…after all………we’re crap, right? How do we expect others to be better?”

    MY GOD.

  3. geeez2014 says:

    Kid; here’s the good thing about that, at least about the Cubans I know who escaped Cuba years ago; they work HARD, they don’t go on the dole. Let’s hope.

  4. Mustang says:

    If you give it some thought, I think you can understand why Obama loves Cuba so much. No, not because they are a communist state. No, not because they are the masters of a welfare state, which obligates everyone to demonstrate loyalty to the government. No, not because they have an unemployment rate of 62%. Rather it is because Cuba has Obama-Care.

  5. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang….probably so. the scum. But I wouldn’t discount your first few reasons!

    I had to laugh …I could only listen to the first minute he came on TV this morning…I had to scamper into the office here to escape but I DID hear him act like it’s a wonderful thing because we’ve not had normalcy with them in so many years. Well, THERE’s a reason to make nice/nice with Communists with no free media and oppression on their people, huh? What kind of reason is THAT?

  6. geeez2014 says:

    I believe what comes out of the mouths of Warren, Clinton, and other Democrats about this situation will define the 2016 elections…at least somewhat. It draws important lines in the sand.
    Oh, DARN, I’m hearing Andrea Tantaros just say what I said. WELL I THOUGHT IT FIRST, ANDREA! 🙂

  7. geeez2014 says:

    I’m picturing Raoul Castro today:

    “So, we will let Alan Gross go and you will release the three Cubans and normalize relations with us, yes, Senor Obama? Then we are even, yes?”

    And the Senor in Chief answers ‘Heck, yes…I’ve been dyin’ to come visit, anyway. Gross’s family was on me all the time, and ..what the heck? How can we call YOU guys bad when our CIA sucks? …hey, did you SEE that CIA report I sent you yet?”

    ya…..wonderful, Senor Barack.

  8. Kid says:

    Are we going to see a picture like this, substitute Castro ?

  9. geeez2014 says:

    I don’t admire Pope Francis for a lot of things, God help me. I haven’t agreed with him on a LOT….but this deal he supposedly helped broker by getting these two bums together is about the least straw for me, I have to admit.
    Sorry to my Catholic buddies here. it’s got nothing to do with Catholicism and everything with someone whose personal feelings I do NOT agree with.

  10. geeez2014 says:

    Oh, man, Kid…did you HAVE to? 🙂 ptui!!

  11. Impertinent says:

    @Kid…”I wonder if this means a soon to be flood of Cuban’s to America’s social security, welfare and WIC systems…..”

    Sure it does….they’re not subject to the wet foot dry foot policy though. We took them since the 60’s and the big bums rush of Mariel. For the most part…they’ve turned out OK.

  12. cube says:

    I’m heartsick about it, but I’m not surprised. Obola is making deals with all of America’s enemies & kicking our allies in their proverbial teeth.

  13. skudrunner says:

    Why not have relations with Cuba, we have them with every other nation that hates us Maybe some Cuban’s in this country will want to return home, probably not. Do you think he did this because JayZ wanted to visit again legally. Jimmy would be proud. Maybe he can build all of them a free house.

    If you are looking for a nice 55 Chevy this may be a good opportunity. Maybe Soros will buy Barry and home overlooking the bay of pigs.

  14. In his speech today, Obama stated, “Todos somos americanos.”

    He’s clearly willing to extend a helping hand to Communist Cubans — but not to Americans who are struggling economically.

  15. From the WaPo today:

    “This asymmetrical trade will invite further belligerence toward Cuba’s opposition movement and the hardening of the government’s dictatorial hold on its people,” said Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) of the deal to secure Gross, which was a key component of the broader U.S.-Cuba agreement.

  16. geeez2014 says:

    Cube, good point. Where was he with Ukraine? etc etc? And why does “we’ve done this for too many years” have anything to do with it? We’ve had a Constitution for many years, too. (oops)

    Skud….what a fabulous comment; you got it ALL in there!

    AOW, he said that? You know, I’m pretty sure he actually doesn’t see the difference … after all, we’re all so unexceptional now…

    I believe Bob Menendez is of Cuban descent and, of course, Marco Rubio is…..why can’t Obama talk to ANYBODY to get expert input, experienced input? Menendez is a Dem and he’s wildly against this world changer today……

    What NEXT for Obama? WHAT THE HECK NEXT????????????

  17. Thersites says:

    Are the Cuban exiles going to get reparations for all the property stolen by the Cuban government now?

  18. Silverlady says:

    That picture is enough to gag a maggot, Kid, or in this case 2 maggots!

    Well,from one dictator to another, he & the Cuban Commie compadre should do well together. Shocking, but I even heard the Dem Menendez criticize this action. The sun may rise in the West tomorrow.

    Makes one wonder who the next hostage will be, & how many illegals, terrorists, or cartel bosses will be traded. Other than our great military, if you go abroad today you are taking a Hell of a chance—anywhere. Stop trying to proselytize, convert, educate, or meddle in any respect. You go there, be it upon your own head. Sorry to be so hard-hearted, but it is is a new day, folks. Wake up & smell the skunk cabbage.

  19. Rita says:

    We have normal relations with Mexico and they held our Marine for over 200 days.

  20. Thersites says:

    How soon they forget…

    That is no doubt just how the impish Fidel wanted it. His stunning and sometimes brutal expropriation campaign seized homes, businesses, farms and factories from tens of thousands of Cubans and scores of U.S. corporations, assets whose combined worth was $9 billion in 1960 and perhaps more than $50 billion today. (It was, in fact, the single biggest grab of U.S.-owned property in history.) When Fidel offered little if any restitution, the U.S. retaliated with an economic embargo against Cuba in 1962, which remains in place (until) today.

  21. geeez2014 says:

    Thersites; let’s HOPE so. $$$ I’d love to see that. Oh, wait..Obama would probably subsidize Raoul for this. never mind.
    I just read your last comment….he owes US reparations! As if Obama’d ever go for that. That was probably part of that phone call “Oh, senor…by the way, we’re keeping all that we took, anyway….you’re okay with that, right?” Barack “Sure…what do I CARE?”

    Silverlady, I think we’ve all smelled enough!

    Rita, that Obama allowed that to happen is so horrific…I honestly thought that were he a real ‘commander in chief,’ he’d have got in a bullet proof limo and driven there and dragged our Marine out..honestly. Metaphorically, at least? Good point, Rita. and glad to see you today.

  22. Rita says:

    I’ve been lax lately Z.

    bet is one splits differently in that you’ll hear some R’s and some D’s screaming and others say it’s okay.

    Don’t yell at me guys, but I don’t have an issue with it. We have dealt with horrible communist countries for decades. It seems kind of odd that we are still holding Cuba out as an example.

    On the bright side. There will be some Hispanics that will throw a fit that he did this.

    Turn away from the dark side, senior. Stop voting D.

  23. Rita says:

    I knew Rubio would throw a fit.

  24. bunkerville says:

    How about the little issue of the law? We have an embargo with Cuba, but then he has that Pen.
    Currently, the Cuban embargo is enforced mainly with six statutes: the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, the Cuba Assets Control Regulations of 1963, the Cuban Democracy Act of 1992, the Helms–Burton Act of 1996, and the Trade Sanctions Reform and Export Enhancement Act of 2000.[2] The Cuban Democracy Act was signed into law in 1992 with the stated purpose of maintaining sanctions on Cuba so long as the Cuban government refuses to move toward “democratization and greater respect for human rights”.[3] In 1996, Congress passed the Helms–Burton Act, which further restricted United States citizens from doing business in or with Cuba, and mandated restrictions on giving public or private assistance to any successor government in Havana unless and until certain claims against the Cuban government are met. In 1999, U.S. President Bill Clinton expanded the trade embargo even further by also disallowing foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies to trade with Cuba. In 2000, Clinton authorized the sale of “humanitarian” U.S. products to Cuba.

  25. Rita says:

    I was wondering about that Bunk.

  26. Impertinent says:

    “the U.S. retaliated with an economic embargo against Cuba in 1962, which remains in place (until) today.”

    Why is it that the US has the only embargo on Cuba….yet they’re still dirt “poor”?

  27. geeez2014 says:

    Rita, I think if Obama’d consulted Congress….or actually got some promises about less oppression and a more open society/media, etc., perhaps I’d not be quite as upset, as John Berger says in the blog below this.
    My biggest thing is the fact that Gross got out the same day; and Obama expects us to believe it’s not part of the trade. What’s he think we ARE? Does Obama EVER give a thought to how things APPEAR?
    He just plain DOESN’T CARE. Period. HE IS PRESIDENT. Done…Greek Columns and all.

  28. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; good point about Cuba and how they’ve never done squat with any other country that would make their economy thrive. Of course, Raul MIGHT be (my stepdaughter did business there and went there about 3 years ago and liked it very much, got treated royally…she’s not American)…he might be making big bucks but the people are oppressed.
    And, of course, it sort of sounds familiar to Obama, right? He and his cronies are the big Goldman Sachs guys getting rich…people be damned.

  29. Impertinent says:

    @Z…I don’t know if they haven’t done squat with other countries. I do know that they can trade ( and do ) with Canada, Mexico, China, all of the EU, Russia ( of course ) and who ever else wants to trade for their primary goods of tobacco, sugar and plentiful seafood. I’ve flown over Cuba a few times on the way to jamaica and other Caribbean destinations…and it looks amazing from the air. Lush…all the farms and agricultural parts on a grid and all green. They have some of the finest fisheries in the world. Canadians and Europeans love to vacation there too. So…we don’t send our Levi’s direct? They can’t get them from Canada? Crazy.

  30. Rita says:

    I love my IMPD officers. My grandson’s father and his wife are IMPD. (I refuse to call him my ex-SIL).

    Back on topic, I am not defending the swap or any other actions by O, I just think Cuba has been much less of a threat to us for decades than a lot of other countries that we deal with.

    I would predict that their biggest industry will eventually be tourism. And I don’t believe that keeping the embargo in place would make them see the light of democracy. If it hasn’t done it in 50 years, it never will.

  31. Impertinent says:

    I predict a mass influx of expats, US based and born Cuban entrepreneurs invade Cuba now. Hotels, 7-11’s, offer special charter flights, new Travel Agencies, clothing and specialty stores….car rentals and all sorts of other goodies to the Fidel and Raul brothers and their goons. Then watch for the kidnappings and ransom demands from the relatives in Miami and Union City.

  32. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; I’m confused. You were the one who said they’re dirt poor and I was careful to say it’s the people who aren’t benefiting… As I said, my stepdaughter did big business with them. Sure, some people probably benefit; the rich Castro cronies, but I’m not the one saying their economy isn’t good.

    Rita; IMPD?? What is that;…police department…?

    As I’ve said above, the point that Obama’d act in this huge a thing without consulting Congress, I think, is the biggest beef most people have. And, I have to pay attention to the fact that Cubans aren’t happy with this…like Marco Rubio and Bob Menendez. I figure they know a lot of what’s gone on?

  33. Impertinent says:

    @Z…why confused? I said / meant the monied, wealthy successful Cubans that now own 90% of South Florida with visit there with their pinky rings, Armani suits, gold necklaces and chauffeurs are the ones who’ll be the targets of the needy Cubans. The Cubans will make the Mafia look like paupers with their suitcases full of cash. Oh…and they’ll want those Casinos back too. Miami & FlaDuh won’t allow it…so Cuba’s the perfect place for them now.

  34. Rita says:

    Indianapolis Metro Police Department. Google Jake Laird. He was my SIL’s best friend. I pray everyday for my SIL and his wife’s safety.

  35. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; I was talking about Cubans IN Cuba.
    The Cubans I know are amazing people….conservative, immaculate, kind.

    Rita…what a handsome young man and what a great cop. What a tragedy.

  36. Rita says:

    I’ll email the post I wrote about that time Z. I took it off my blog because I didnt want it found by some people I know.

  37. geeez2014 says:

    Rita, thanks. I appreciate that.

  38. Mustang says:

    A few years ago, a boatload of Cubans made it inside US territorial waters. Of course, the Coast Guard arrested them and placed them in an immigration detention facility. They were there for months and months. I couldn’t figure it out. On the one hand, Cubans living in FL are generally successful in banking, investments, real estate, law, and retain businesses. On the other hand, Haitians arrive in leaky boats because they are far too stupid to figure out that 120 people on a boat designed for no more than 20 may end up as shark food. They too were “saved” by the Coast Guard and when these people with no skill, no way to make a contribution to America arrived on Florida’s shores, they were almost immediately released into the general society. This may make sense to the feds, but it doesn’t make much sense to me.

  39. Baysider says:

    “Cuba has Obama-Care.” Ouch! Picture of what to expect: http://therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

  40. Kid says:

    Baysider, and why would obamacare be any better than the VA. In fact how could it even be as good as the VA given the massive increase in new demand…

  41. John M. Berger says:

    @ Mustang,
    “They too were “saved” by the Coast Guard and when these people with no skill, no way to make a contribution to America arrived on Florida’s shores, they were almost immediately released into the general society.”

    I’ve noticed lately that our Government seems to favor people with no skills, or means of contributing to America. This is clearly on display in our Public Education System!

  42. Baysider says:

    Obama blinked. Follow the money.

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