Giuliani….Obama doesn’t love America…

I suppose everybody will blog on this today, so I figured I’d join the bunch because I think it’s important;   I’ve got some thoughts below,  please tell me what you think:

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) sparked a firestorm on Wednesday, when he proclaimed that President Barack Obama “doesn’t love” America. The backlash keeps rolling in.

“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani reportedly said at a private New York fundraiser for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

Asked about the matter during a flight aboard Air Force One to Chicago, a White House spokesman partially agreed with Giuliani’s assessment — of his own remarks. “It was a horrible thing to say,” deputy press secretary Eric Schultz said, according to a pool report.

Schultz further jabbed at the onetime presidential hopeful by noting that Giuliani had tested the line during his “fleeting 2007 run for the presidency.”  (Z: such a typically leftwing thing to do, isn’t it..?   Insult Giuliani as if this negates what he said?)

Democrats have also denounced Giuliani’s comments as offensive and called on Walker and the rest of the potential 2016 GOP presidential field to do the same. “I rarely agreed with President Bush, but I never questionedhis love for our country,” said Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.  (Z: OH, yes, White House;  BRILLIANT!  One Republican said this so let’s ask them ALL!   Hilarious…  Almost as funny as the press asking Jeb Bush about things in Bosnia, as if ANY Democrat candidate would be asked that..EVER?!!  He botched it badly, by the way..)

Walker, who was in the room while Giuliani was speaking, responded Thursday morning. “The mayor can speak for himself. I’m not going to comment on what the president thinks or not,” Walker said. “I’m in New York. I’m used to people saying things that are aggressive.”  (Z:  Good on you, Scotty!)

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), another possible 2016 candidate, came to Giuliani’s defense. “The gist of what Mayor Giuliani said — that the President has shown himself to be completely unable to speak the truth about the nature of the threats from these ISIS terrorists — is true,” Jindal said in a statement.

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Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) declined to go that far. He told reporters in New Hampshire that he had “no doubt” that Obama loves America, “but I just think his policies are bad for our nation.”

Giuliani expanded his criticism Thursday by suggesting that Obama lacks a certain fondness for “Western civilization.”

“When I see Christians slaughtered and I don’t see the American president standing up for them as Christians, when I see Jews slaughtered and I don’t see him standing up of them as Jews, I wonder if my criticism about his love of America doesn’t extend to a criticism of a love of Western civilization,” Giuliani said in an interview with WABC in New York.  (End of Article)

Z: My thoughts on this idea of Obama not loving America are this:  How COULD he?  Take a look at his parents’ politics…take a look at his being half Black/half White and how that had to feel back then….take a look at his upbringing in Indonesia….check out his mentors like Frank Davis Marshall…and his friends Bill Ayers and his wife (Remember, Obama said he barely knew them during the election, but the truth was they’d held his first ‘coffee’ when he first ran for office in their home and they knew each other very well after having been on boards together and, I believe, the wives worked together)…and there’s SO much more!   WHY would Obama love America?  He apologizes for it, he embarrasses it (remember he sent Churchill’s bust back to England days after he moved into the WH and gave the Queen a CD of HIS speeches and cheap little gifts? and more, of course), he’s driven debt into the stratosphere, he always sides with the bad guys….all of you can fill this in better than I could.   HOW COULD OBAMA LOVE AMERICA?  HOW?

What do you think?  And, by the way….I SO HOPE GIULIANI’S WRONG…


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46 Responses to Giuliani….Obama doesn’t love America…

  1. Tragically for our republic, Giuliani is correct that Obama doesn’t love America.

    Somewhat related, check out this opinion piece by Pastorius: The Mystery Of The Stupid Blonde and Redheaded White People. At the least, an interesting read (including comments).


  2. of course Obama loves America.
    That’s why he wants to fundamentally transform it into something else!


  3. I can’t tell if President Obama loves Michelle Obama. I just assume he does, football linebacker physique and all. But he’s never displayed any reason to think he doesn’t. However, when it comes to America, he has shown so much disdain for our traditions, such as wearing a la Pelle 10 flag, that it’s hard to believe he loves America the way most of us do or raised here and not in Indonesia.


  4. What he has said and written in the past, is in line with the words of the former NY mayor. He should consider a presidential run.


  5. Kid says:

    Giuliani is being too PC. It was obvious to me in 2007 that obama hates America, Americans, and Christians and his display of it has only gotten worse. I would say he is half white – half moslem because he doesn’t like blacks either.unless they’re as radical as he is. The things he’s done can easily be categorized as direct attacks on America and the Constitution. he’s guilty of treason many times over. he’s a lying moslem and a fake person. Fake BC, all records sealed. I believe him to be a product of the Middle East haters and his life in America was bought and paid for to get him to the mosque at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and work hard for the moslems. It’s exactly what he’s done.

    Other than that it is way too cold here. I can actually feel the oceans receding and hear the polar bears singing.


  6. Kid:
    Is it extremely cold, unusually cold?
    Maybe Obama should not have shut down all those coal plants!
    Save the planet!
    Save the plants!
    Create more CO2!


  7. That’s what I get for voice commenting.
    la Pelle 10 flag= lapel pin flag.


  8. Kid says:

    Ed, It is both extreme and unusual. Broken records yesterday and today.

    Yes, when people zig God zags. And laughs of course.


  9. bunkerville says:

    At least and at last we are having the discussion and there are those who may be willing to face a sad reality and that which could destroy our great Nation.


  10. Mustang says:
    Someone pointed out that none of us knows what a man has in his heart. While true, I think Giuliani did a good job explaining his comment from the standpoint of “the weight of evidence” leading him to that conclusion. I have myself said that there is nothing American about Obama; he is not one of us. Culturally, he was not raised to love his country —he was raised to destroy it. His grandparents, his mother, his father, his mentor were all communists. His sudden and meteoric rise to a prominent position in our country must leave a thinking man scratching his head. Indeed, it has led to many people questioning the authorship of his books, where he came by so much money to pay for an extensive trip to Pakistan, and how a rather mundane community organizer can suddenly become a US senator. Finally, someone who truly loved America (as opposed to someone who works hard to destroy it) would never sit in Jeremiah Wright’s church for 22 years.


  11. geeez2014 says:

    And Giuliani’s really hunkering down on this, which I admire…he’s been attacked and questioned and still hangs tight.

    I loved when he was told “The president says he wasn’t at the church services when Jeremiah Wright blasted America those times..” and Giuiliani said what we have all said “And nobody TOLD him?”


  12. John M. Berger says:

    ” His sudden and meteoric rise to a prominent position in our country must” also mean that that a preponderance of the electorate either don’t love America” or, at least, don’t understand it. That and/or his handlers have been successful in perpetrating the greatest election fraud in the history of the Republic. These precepts are glaringly obvious by the fact that he was reelected. I view Obama as nothing more than a glorified “useful idiot”, supported by elements who stand to benefit from America’s demise and those too ignorant to know any better! Obviously, Obama “doesn’t love America”!


  13. Impertinent says:

    “The Obama administration has a strategy. It is very simple. Any thinking American should be able to grasp it. It’s anti-American, anti-Western, it’s pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood,” he said last week at a conference hosted by the conservative Center for Security Policy where he heads the military committee.

    Lyons, in the Navy for 36 years and a critic of Obama, said the nation has to come to “grips” with Islam as something other than a religion. “Until you recognize that Islam is the political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it,” he said at the conference titled the “Defeat Jihad Summit.”

    Retired Adm. James “Ace” Lyons, also a former deputy chief of naval operations,

    Should the rise of conflicts across the Middle East and Ukraine serve as a warning sign that something much more dangerous is approaching?

    According to Jim Rickards, the CIA’s Asymmetric Warfare Advisor, the answer is yes.

    In a startling interview he reveals that all 16 U.S. Intelligence Agencies have begun to prepare for World War III.

    Making matters worse, his colleagues believe it could begin within the next 6 months.

    However, the ground zero location for this global conflict is what makes his interview a must-see for every American.


  14. John M. Berger says:

    Do you have a link?


  15. Impertinent says:

    This for the Admiral’s comments:


  16. John M. Berger says:




  17. Baysider says:

    Of course Guiliani’s right! And very gently put, I may add.

    And Mustang is right “he is not one of us.” He despises western civilization. While he feigns an ersatz attachment to the United States, the anti-colonial burr under his saddle – fed by his parent, grandparents and everyone else Z mentioned – drives him. It’s not just the Islamic State. He wants to flood the country with people whose main attachment to it will be to vote themselves more largess out of our wallets, further diluting the values and power of the economy.


  18. Baysider says:

    And John, here’s the link to an excerpt from the Rickards interview.


  19. AOW: That was an interesting read.


  20. Impertinent says:

    “Virginia Democrats walk out House twice on resolution to support Israel, Democrats are now officially “ALL IN” supporting the Dark Side!”

    Progressive Liberal Democrat Politicians, the most crooked, dishonest, self serving group of people I have ever witnessed. Virginia should shame these cowards and Jew haters.


  21. Ed,
    Thank you for taking time to read the link that I left above.

    I read today that one of the women — can’t remember which one — is returning to her position as Director of Communications. Huh?


  22. Imp,
    Virginia Democrats walk out House twice on resolution to support Israel



  23. Baysider says:

    AOW, I finished reading your link too. That was really an interesting hypothesis. Got me to thinking, too. Besides, what IS it with these feckless twitter signs that anyone thinks is useful? A
    ‘normal’ adult might – in fact – seek to quash any pictures like that from leaking out.


  24. Mustang says:

    Sadly, AOW … Virginia Democrats do represent citizens who think exactly the way they do. One should wonder at what point this train began to derail. My suspicion is that it began when we permitted communists to seize our education system. The tragedy is that no one seems interested in getting education back from the traitors.


  25. What gets me is how, after over 6 years in office, he still has a 49% approval rating! Judging from what Watters World interviews have shown, it makes sense, doesn’t it? BOY! Are we in trouble!


  26. FB says:

    Politicians love themselves first and foremost most of the time so he may be right. But it’s another stupid comment that the GOP doesn’t need. Honestly their communication sucks. Can they get on message all of them? Get rid of the petty and useless comments, get to work, show some resolve and results.


  27. cube says:

    I like brevity… Rudy is right.


  28. FB says:

    American politics has become so petty. I feel like I’m watching a movie that is taking place in highschool with the jock, the snooty cheerleader and the rest. It’s pathetic. And those guys are supposed to lead the free world? Oh wait, they first and foremost work for the banks and other interests. I had forgotten. We’re in trouble indeed. To the point voting at the national level seems increasingly pointless to me. The only reason to me to keep voting for the presidency is the nomination of Supreme Court justices.


  29. Impertinent says:

    “A newly-minted U.S. senator and a retired lieutenant general appeared on Fox News Channel’s “The Kelly File” Thursday and expressed their disbelief at the Obama administration’s disclosure of its plans to re-take the city of Mosul, Iraq, including timetable and troop numbers.
    Revealing battle plans in advance has “now become a matter of policy” and amounts to “aiding and abetting the enemy” they said.

    Sen. Tom Cotton, a Republican from Arkansas, is an Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran who serves on the Senate Armed Services Committee. He observed what would happen if a rank-and-file member of the military had done what the administration did.

    “If a private in Iraq had revealed this kind of planning inadvertently by leaving a plan in the chow hall or a gym, he might have faced a court martial,” he said. “But it’s now become a matter of policy that this administration is now going to announce war plans in advance that only increases the risk.”
    Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Tom Mcinerney, a Fox News contributor, agreed.
    “It’s absolutely bewildering,” he said. “We are aiding and abetting the enemy.”

    But…we have to take care of “Chelsea” Mannings sex change and hormone therapy. Anyone have a sharp knife?


  30. fredd says:

    Of course Rudy is right. Everything Barry does supports this conclusion. I think the strongest evidence of his lack of love for all things American is that he sat in Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright’s hateful church for SEVENTEEN YEARS! Had his children baptized there. Got married in that church. And sat in the pews of that America hating church and listened to Rev. Wright bash, besmirch and bad mouth America every Sunday for SEVENTEEN YEARS!

    How is it possible to love America, and still sit in those hateful pews, and contribute to the collection plate every Sunday FOR SEVENTEEN YEARS? That’s 17, count ’em.

    Barack Hussein Obama does not love America. He resents what it stands for, and wants to bring it down a peg or two, cut it down to size. Rudy is dead spot on.


  31. Baysider says:

    Thanks for that link, AOW. And here’s more mischief out of that WH meeting, from the Daily Caller: “According to tweet by participants in the recent White House Countering Violent Extremism (CVE) Summit, Vice President Joe Biden spoke about violent extremism carried out “in the name of the Bible. The line is evocative of President Barack Obama’s line during the National Prayer Breakfast that while ISIS is horrible, terrible deeds have been committed “in the name of Christ.”

    Doubling down on these misbegotten talking points reveals how right Guiliani is.

    Plus the head of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (invited to this meeting) wanted Israel investigated in 2001 as a suspect behind the jihadi attacks.


  32. Impertinent says:

    How I keep wishing Ovomit was on an American or United jet as a punk community organizer 14 years ago. How different the world would be today? Obama? Obama who.


  33. Impertinent says:

    If you could by that one way ticket to Mars for someone…who would that person be? I read that thousands have volunteered already.


  34. geeez2014 says:

    I’ve read all your comments above and haven’t any words to say how it all makes me feel.
    TWITTER from the State Dept?
    Promoting the moron girl from State?

    The only person I disagree with is FB….I don’t believe it was a mistake for Giuliani to say that (I would have a year ago because I, like FB, don’t like the conservatives giving ammo to the Leftwing media, etc) ….I believe a LOT OF PEOPLE get why he said it, not just Conservatives. I really do.


  35. geeez2014 says:

    I just rec’d this email from someone who’ll not be allowed to comment here (I’m so sorry leftwingers can’t be civil!, maybe this guy could, this is fairly civil, but I can’t break my rule)

    I think what’s important about it is the THINKING: In other words, NOBODY can tell us anything about LOVE if they’ve been unloving? And nobody can talk about a president whose own record disavows the idea he even COULD love this country (did this blogger even read my post or the comments?)…but we’re supposed to negate Giuliani because he might have been a cad in earlier years (He’s happily married now and did amazing things for NYCity, as you all know) . Here goes the commenter’s response to my blog:

    “Rudy Giuliani knows a lot about love.
    Ask Regina Peruggi, the second cousin he grew up with and married, who was “offended” when Rudy later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man on the grounds, strangely enough, that she was his cousin. Or ask Donna Hanover, the mother of his two children, who found out he wanted a separation when he left Gracie Mansion one morning and announced it at a televised press conference.
    Or ask Judi Nathan, his third wife, whom he started dating while still married to Hanover and New York mayor. In two SUVs, he and an entourage of six or seven cops traveled 11 times to Judi’s Hamptons getaway at a taxpayer cost of $3,000 a trip. That’s love.
    Rudy may have forgotten the half-dozen deferments he won ducking the Vietnam War, even getting the federal judge he was clerking for to write a letter creating a special exemption for him. And remember Bernie Kerik? He’s the Giulaini police commissioner, business partner and sidekick whose nomination as homeland security secretary narrowly preceded indictments. He then did his national service in prison.
    Giuliani went so far as to rebuke the President for not being “brought up the way you were and the way I was brought up through love of this country,” a bow no doubt to the parenting prowess of Harold Giuliani, who did time in Sing Sing for holding up a Harlem milkman and was the bat-wielding enforcer for the loan-sharking operation run out of a Brooklyn bar owned by Rudy’s uncle.”

    So I guess we’re all supposed to say “Oh, NO! Giuiliani is a cad!?? then Obama must LOVE this country!” (smile)


  36. Impertinent says:

    I can’t wait until this clown does a Mother Earth smear job on the faults of Jesus Christ in his short time on earth. He was human too, right?


  37. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, it’s almost shocking if we weren’t inured to all of this already, isn’t it.
    Yes, the ol’ Bible’s full of nastiness…..of course, it’s been thousands of years, but it’s worth a mention from Biden so’s not to make muslims feel like they’re the only bunch who would consider beheadings and burning people alive.


  38. Impertinent says:

    Yet…Christianity has evolved from the OT…and the time of BC….Islime has yet to evolve into anything resembling…a “religion” of peace. It is a formula and a war guide / manual ( the Queeran ) to genocide and conquest.


  39. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; I have to admit that the wrath and judgment of God in the OT, which came with PLENTY of violence, doesn’t resonate to me like muslim wrath and anger of monsters living today, but I suppose a LOT of people don’t see a difference.
    I do. and yes, the birth of Christ did bring immense peace…..even more than just an ‘evolution from the OT’, or just ‘reform’ as so many of us hope happens to islam.


  40. Baysider says:

    Agreed! The wrath of God does not resonate like the capricious and torturous violence of Islam. Through the sturm und drang of the O.T. God was consistently a God of love, peace, comfort, patience, correction and, yes, wrath – just as in the N.T. (Take a peek at Revelation 8 – now THERE’S a ‘sustainability’ problem for ya!) Sometimes he used men as his sword (like the Assyrians). But His love is on display from Genesis 3 on as He builds the story of redemption of man at greatest cost to … Himself.

    Personally, I’m looking forward to the day when He comes from Edom out of Bozrah with his robes dipped in blood – the blood of His enemies that we are told to leave to Him for vengeance. We can sure see why THAT is going to be necessary!


  41. Baysider. Thanks. You saved me from having to say it.


  42. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, …this is true “Through the sturm und drang of the O.T. God was consistently a God of love, peace, comfort, patience, correction and, yes, wrath..” but we must remember that the truly violent “sturm und drang” is a sticking point to so MANY secularists and Christians, particularly if they’re on the fence or haven’t a strong Biblical knowledge/understanding. The “story of redemption” you so aptly mention is what I allude to in my comment above. It’s just not always understood..the ‘big picture’ has to be known to understand, and not disdain and mischaracterize, the God of the O.T., isn’t it.
    What comes to my mind, also, as I write this and think of the differences to islam, is how living within God’s freedom is so HUGE and there are so few freedoms in the koran. So many think Christians operate in a restrictive atmosphere of law after law, when, when one understands, that freedom is huge and safe and virtuous and comfortable.
    And, just think, we are rarely called to kill nonbelievers, are we 🙂


  43. Farmer John says:

    Geez, Giulani called Obama “unpatriotic”. Now Giuliani is getting death threats. Nobody sent Obama death threats.


  44. Baysider says:

    As an aside, I recall the verse from Revelation 20 that says “I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God…” Boy. I couldn’t imagine that when I read it as a child. But look where we are now.


  45. Kid says:

    Free Will is God’s greatest gift to mankind.


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