An Affleck had SLAVES? Oops…oh wait, no … well, he DID, but….

So Ben Affleck lobbied PBS to please take out of a documentary on his ancestors any mention that he had a relative who had slaves.   And PBS caved on it.    Here is the story from the NY Post (bold words are mine to make sure you see them particularly):

Ben Affleck insisted on censoring the fact that one of his ancestors owned slaves from PBS show “Finding Your Roots,” the Sony email hack has revealed.

In a hacked Sony email from July 22, 2014, now available on WikiLeaks, the show’s host, Henry Louis Gates Jr., writes to Sony USA chief Michael Lynton asking for advice: “One of our guests has asked us to edit out something about one of his ancestors–the fact that he owned slaves. Now, four or five of our guests this season descend from slave owners, including Ken Burns. We’ve never had anyone ever try to censor or edit what we found. He’s a megastar. What do we do?”  (Z: you remember Henry Gates, the Boston prof who was part of Obama’s Beer Summit)

Lynton’s advice was to take Affleck’s family secret out of the show, as long as nobody would find out. The Sony chairman and CEO writes, “On the doc the big question is who knows that the material is in the doc and is being taken out. I would take it out if no one knows, but if it gets out that you are editing the material based on this kind of sensitivity then it gets tricky.”

Gates, who is friends with Lynton and wrote “I need your advice,” goes on to admit that hiding facts would be a violation of PBS rules. “As for the doc: all my producers would know; his PR agency the same as mine, and everyone there has been involved trying to resolve this; my agent at CAA knows. And PBS would know. To do this would be a violation of PBS rules, actually, even for Batman.”

When Lynton responds that “it is tricky because it may get out that you made the change and it comes down to editorial integrity,” Gates responds, “It would embarrass him and compromise our integrity.”

At the time, Affleck was filming “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” in Detroit and Gates offered to fly there and discuss the issue but wrote, “Once we open the door to censorship, we lose control of the brand.”*

Ultimately producers ceded to Affleck’s demand and no mention was made of his slave-owning ancestor.  (Z: *oops…looks like the ‘lost control of the brand’ pretty quickly)  The show broadcast on October 14 last year focused on a Revolutionary War ancestor, an ancestor who was an occult enthusiast and his mother, who marched for civil rights in 1964.

Gates released a statement that read: “The mission of ‘Finding Your Roots’ is to find and share interesting stories from our celebrity guests’ ancestries and use those stories to unlock new ways to learn about our past. We are very grateful to all of our guests for allowing us into their personal lives and have told hundreds of stories in this series including many about slave ancestors — never shying away from chapters of a family’s past that might be unpleasant.”  (Z: Wait….but you did shy away, you removed the slavery part of Affleck’s family story)

It continues, “Ultimately, I maintain editorial control on all of my projects and, with my producers, decide what will make for the most compelling program. In the case of Mr. Affleck — we focused on what we felt were the most interesting aspects of his ancestry — including a Revolutionary War ancestor, a 3rd great-grandfather who was an occult enthusiast, and his mother, who marched for Civil Rights during the Freedom Summer of 1964.”    (Z: I see…..that his ancestor had slaves wasn’t ‘interesting’, didn’t move the story forward.  I see.  We get that.  … ARE YOU KIDDING? Are we that stupid?)

PBS has also sent The New York Post a statement, saying: “It is clear from the exchange how seriously Professor Gates takes editorial integrity. He has told us that after reviewing approximately ten hours of footage for the episode, he and his producers made an independent editorial judgment to choose the most compelling narrative. The range and depth of the stories on Finding Your Roots speak for themselves.”   END OF ARTICLE

Z:  This is almost painful in the sucking up to the BIG LEFTWING CELEB.  “Ben Affleck just can’t have a relative with SLAVES!   Are you kidding?  We have integrity, we don’t cave , but gee, we used our judgment and took that out because it was boring.  Boring to have slaves….”  (unless you were a Republican whose ancestors had slaves, right?)



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39 Responses to An Affleck had SLAVES? Oops…oh wait, no … well, he DID, but….

  1. Next time they will put the docs on so that no one ever finds out.


  2. Shall we hold everyone accountable for their ancestors’ misdeeds? Never mind that the misdeeds were not considered misdeeds at the time.

    And what about Abraham Lincoln? See this. Excerpt (emphases mine):

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”


  3. silverfiddle says:

    Think they would have gone through such torturous soul-searching if they found such family history on a conservative star?

    We all should be asking now, when will Ben be paying his reparations?


  4. John M. Berger says:

    “he had a relative who had slaves”
    SO WHAT!


  5. Mustang says:

    I am always amazed by those who contend that the slavery of 160 years ago somehow affects them today. It is pure balderdash. It establishes a rite of victim-hood. It is just as likely that Affleck is himself the descendant of slaves since history clearly demonstrates that far greater numbers of whites were enslaved than blacks. I agree with Mr. Berger: so what? Only a leftist puke like Affleck would claim horror at a fact that he cannot today possibly control. It doesn’t matter, but it does remind me somewhat of how the leftist elite recoiled from the fact of Jefferson’s relationship with Heming … not even knowing (or caring) about the factual history of that relationship.


  6. geeez2014 says:

    Dennis, good point….then, this info would have never come out.

    Silverfiddle; that’s what I suggested above, too…imagine if Affleck was a Republican? The slaves owned by his ancestor would have gone from let’s say 10 to 1000 in the zeal Gates would have to nail him. And yes, when will Ben pay? Or was this his attempt to make sure he never’d have to? 🙂

    AOW; thanks for that. Very interesting!.

    John and Mustang; that’s what I thought. Not as many Americans had slaves as we’re taught in our textbooks today, by the way, but to say everybody today who’s related to slave owner is bad it NUTS.

    This struck me to be a story less about Affleck particularly and more about THE LIBERAL MINDSET…as in:




    Henry “Beer Summit” Gates acquiesced in his ‘zeal’ to present the whole truth when it came to AFFLECK, a powerful Democrat. And then Gates has the nerve to suggest it’s not a ‘compelling narrative’ that someone’s relatives had slaves in the South?
    Sure, it’s not important, really…..nobody today has slaves, why should Affleck feel uncomfortable..? BUT, to suggest that mention of that isn’t at least compelling is SO HYPOCRITICAL!


  7. AOW, I understand that Lincoln also suggested we ship the Negros back to Africa and that it would be paid by the U.S. but the plantation owners wouldn’t have any part of that. Too bad. One wonders if no Negros had been brought here (ergo, no slaves) would any that might later immigrate
    here be different (attitude, ambition, chip on their shoulders, etc)? Would they have spoken the same as us or like they do now? As I pointed out once before, in other countries they’ve migrated to, they act the same as the locals, like the example I had previously mentioned, France.


  8. Imp says:

    Breaking news…here it comes: And from the NYT again?

    From 2001 to 2012, the Clintons’ income was at least $136.5 million, Mr. Schweizer writes, using a figure previously reported in The Post. “During Hillary’s years of public service, the Clintons have conducted or facilitated hundreds of large transactions” with foreign governments and individuals, he writes. “Some of these transactions have put millions in their own pockets.”


  9. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, that’s a seriously compelling question. Except we all know Black Americans who do everything like all Americans do……it’s the punk kids who mostly (literally) can’t speak English. Even though we aks and aks them to do better 🙂
    And I say that knowing quite well several Black teens who are extremely articulate; so we run the risk of sterotyping….BUT:
    while I never saw THAT many Blacks in France, I think it’s pretty much the same there as it is here; the more educated speak well and fit in, the less educated do not.
    So, after some consideration here just now, I think it’s more an EDUCATION thing.
    BuT, your question is a good one….

    Imp; do you think this story will get the media play it deserves? I was watching some CNN today to see what they’re saying and they’re suggesting that so many far lefties can’t stand Clinton that those media types will be definitely ON THIS. They want Warren, after all, who CNN says they think is patiently waiting to see how all of this plays out for six months or so. See, Warren WOULD get the big bucks for support IF she did finally run. They adore her.

    BUT….I’m thinking this Clinton story, if handled correctly, could even mean some legal trouble. You don’t take money from people you’re dealing with when you’re in public office!!!! And I’m so tired of her thinking we’re so stupid that she took her name off the Clinton Foundation stuff a couple of weeks ago…like “that’s not ME!” Oh, right, Hill…get over it, it’s YOU$$$

    Could be a really big story and I’m hoping and praying the Republicans don’t screw THIS one up, too. Don’t give the media that big a chance to make it about THEIR HATING HILLARY BECAUSE SHE”S A WOMAN…

    I sure can’t wait to hear Alan Colmes white wash THIS one. And HE WILL. So will Lanny Davis.


  10. geeez2014 says:

    Brett Baer is going to do a special tomorrow on this situation with Hillary money; WITH the author of the new book. Should be good. No date/time mentioned last time I heard about it on FOX, but I hope I’m home to watch.


  11. Kid says:

    “hiding facts would be a violation of PBS rules” HAA !

    Affleck a Mega Star? I am out of touch..

    Yes Z, pathetic.


  12. I didn’t mean to imply all Blacks are the same, Z, because we all know successful, hard working Blacks with pride and not looking for something for free. There would be no need for a Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, NAACP, etc. THAT’S what I was alluding to. Also, look at the high number of Blacks born out of wedlock, unknown father and/or mother, etc. Would their numbers be any different than the Whites or Hispanics had there not been slavery to begin with?


  13. Imp says:

    “Blacks born out of wedlock, unknown father and/or mother, etc.”

    Lately it seems to me it’s a point of pride?


  14. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I see what you mean..sorry! So you’re suggesting slavery could have influence the bad behavior we see in some today….that’s an excellent point.
    I guess all I could say was (to them) GET OVER IT!! 🙂

    Kid…thanks for seeing the hypocrisy I do….unbelievable, isn’t it. Ya, it’s against the rules and he has integrity. So Affleck wins 🙂

    Imp …isn’t that sad?


  15. Kid says:

    Z, yea, people don’t throw away crutches easily, especially when there is no dad, no mom, no education and the black ‘leaders’ encouraging the bad behavior.


  16. Imp says:

    Bbbbbbutttt….look at how slavery benefited Uncle Ben? There’s no denial…his ancestors passed down a slave legacy to the Brahman brat who’s become a major azz clown. Him and his doofus partner…Matty Damon. Isn’t it funny how the shanty Irish were enslaved, persecuted, beaten and starved yet are now a ruling class? How’d that happen?


  17. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, that’s a wonderful way to describe the situation..the crutches analogy. And we expect so much of these kids who have had NOTHING to help them be REAL men and women.

    Imp; Imagine that Affleck and the other lefties are SO eager to paint themselves as OPEN and HONEST and TELLING US ALL WE’RE NOT….and then PBS does this obfuscation and tells us that slavery thing “just wasn’t compelling enough ” to not be edited out? WHO ARE THEY KIDDING? He asked they remove it; anybody forget THAT PART? 🙂


  18. Imp says:

    The fact that Gates alone…along with PBS, Perpetual Bullsheet Show, should tell us what kind of a fix was in. Gates missed an opportunity to be a Charles Blow…and angry, pathetic out and out racist like he was that day in Cambridge. He missed a grand opportunity to out the hypocrite Uncle Ben. Like Gwyneth who got outed for her attempt to be down with the people on a buck a day diet. Silver spoons never rust or tarnish…no matter where they’re stuck. And Hollyweird has more silver bullion and BS than Ft. Knox has gold bars.


  19. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; I was a teeny bit ‘impressed’ that Gates even had a second thought about integrity….but then HE CAVED.
    Good point about the silver spoons!!


  20. Imp says:

    Having a touch of “integrity” for 30 seconds doesn’t get you a pass or replace someone with a lifetime of that gift.


  21. geeez2014 says:

    Gates: “We’ve never had anyone ever try to censor or edit what we found. He’s a megastar. What do we do?”
    See, integrity for actuallY LESS than 30 seconds! The next sentence after his first (above) shows he lost the integrity sooner than he found it! And, of course, no Black man as leftwing and racist as Gates would want anybody to be able to cover for slave-owning relatives, but PBS $$$ probably arrange that to happen 🙂
    But….anything for money. for that type of character


  22. Imp: “Isn’t it funny how the shanty Irish were enslaved, persecuted, beaten and starved”
    I went to a “Race Relations” class with my sergeant and he complained there that as “Black Irish” his people had been discriminated against and were still since the class didn’t discuss that!


  23. Imp says:

    @Z…I gave him 30 seconds cause I figured he’d stutter, stumble and have some trouble spitting out that bilge. So…the benefit to of no doubts he’d parse the meaning of…what is “Edit”. None of them have integrity and no shame for lacking it at all.


  24. Imp says:

    @Ed…yet from 1845 on or so it’s an historical fact. The Irish were treated worse than blacks….seen as vermin infested dogs…and on top of that…they were mostly Catholics. Since it’s 1984 where we rewrite history on a daily basis….there’s no surprise right? We’re supposed to as O’Really just said….lay low and don’t bother with the fight. Just suck it up. Not all of us have underground bunkers to take shelter in Bill…when Helter Skelter becomes reality.


  25. Trust me Imp. He educated me.
    Wouldn’t stop in fact 🙂


  26. Wow. Just remembered his name. Dalton.


  27. Imp says:

    Looks like a showdown and a possible naval battle might be shaping up between us and Iran.


  28. skudrunner says:

    All the news is about hilldabeast and the financegate.. As the MSM is quick to repeat, It must be a big right wing conspiracy, unless they find the blue dress then nothing more will be uttered by the media.


  29. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; do you see a hideous rise in countries challenging us in the last few years?
    Iran and naval battle? Russia…. Somalia…..countries that are little dumps threatening US? Boka Haram (or however it’s spelled), etc etc…to say nothing of ISIS.
    The threats and the insults from SO many countries lately that I read in headlines…..”So and so country ACCUSES AMERICA of..” And I think “Man, they never had the GUTS to say THAT before”..

    my GOSH….all because of this awful pres.

    Skudrunner….Hillary’s accusing Republicans about just making this about HER instead of the ISSUES… we’re supposed to let any unethical , possibly illegal, thing she’s done and swallow it because she might threaten Republicans with being nasty to her (poor baby).
    Benghazi, these accusations about big money from the Saudis, etc etc………….we’re supposed to say “That’s OK, because it’s her ROYAL HIGHNESS HILLARY and, after all, she’d NEVER do anything imperfectly” GRRRR

    Ed and Imp; as you both know, I’m from Armenian immigrants and my grandfather, who came to Troy, NY in about 1910, said the Irish were the group that got insulted and knifed, etc., before the Armenians….then it was ‘our’ turn…’new kids on the block’….he named a whole string of immigrant nationalities that had been run after before and each knew one would put the old one #2 on the list….


  30. Imp says:

    @Z..ya know Z….it was the Irish, then it became fashionable to diss the Italians, Germans, Russians, Poles and just about every European immigrant who got off a boat. I was wondering…at that time…who was it that considered themselves Native Americans? Today…I still see dissing and conflating Italians with the mob or gold jewelry as acceptable. However…all came here LEGALLY.
    I’m sick of granting “rights” to an ethnic group for any reason…. since we managed to withhold from them the “bennies” and so many others until…they became officially… citizens of this country. Not the country they immigrated from….but loyalty to the country that granted them a space in ours. Which is why I so detest these arrogant, grifters and phonies from coming here. They contribute…ZERO. And one cannot argue that they receive way more than they ever give back.


  31. Kid says:

    IMP. I am partially native American. I am 1/16th Cherokee. I own a Winchester 30-30(Marlin) I should own a casino. Heck I should be a Senator. But I’m not the type to use my heritage for a leg up. It just seems wrong ya know? But if things get bad enough, maybe I’ll use it for a 4 year stint to the white house. Just so much vermin to deal with along the way though. Dang.


  32. geeez2014 says:

    Imp, as far as I’m concerned, they were lucky to get here..what rights does America owe anybody?

    Kid….you’ve got MY vote 🙂


  33. Imp says:

    @Kid…then I bestow upon you the Cherokee name of “Gawonii”….Meaning He is speaking. You can call me Keemosabee or Tonto…K?


  34. Kid says:

    Z, You’ve got MY vote. 😉


  35. Kid says:

    IMP, you may call me Ellebenty Bears with the 99 squaws.

    Fwiw Tonto.


  36. Imp says:

    @Z…”what rights does America owe anybody?”

    The only ones we’ve accepted of immigrants for 200 years. Assimilate….learn the language….become a contributor….not a dependent…..learn the customs…become a part of our fabric. Let’s stop being a salad bowel….and become one. I’m hallucinating though…aren’t I?


  37. Mustang says:

    Hmmm. Tonto means tiny peanut doesn’t it?


  38. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang; I don’t even get that and it made ME giggle!! ???

    Kid, thank you! 🙂

    Imp/ yes, you’re hallucinating………..but it’s a nice hallucination!! that’s what MY ancestors did…grandpa, no education, becomes the owner of 3 fancy groceries in Troy, NY…speaks English, raises very successful sons (with MAGNIFICENT children, of course :-)), became part of the fabric in only positive ways…………like most of our family histories.
    BUT NOT TODAY….even Armenians, who used to be way to proud to ever take any welfare assistance even back when they arrived with nothing, today are taking PLENTY….of course, they’re all Russian Armenian with their big fat sweaty hands outstretched for anything they can get, which is a bit of a different animal….literally…but….


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