Iran * America * Nukes

iran nuke deal cartoon

Depending on what we hear about this “BIG DEAL” Kerry has negotiated, what do you think Congress will do?  How much will they stand up against?  WILL they speak up if, for example, sanctions are too greatly reduced, or observation of nuclear activity is not often and careful enough, etc., etc?   Or will they be afraid of the Left’s “You don’t care enough to stop Iran, you’re just being political, we have to do this great deal to save the world!” that we’ll probably hear?

Does it matter? I think it does.   Does Israel matter? I think it does.  Shouldn’t keeping Americans safe trump preempt what Obama’d like for his legacy?   Will his legacy mean having left us more vulnerable because (I hate to quote Trump, but…) our negotiators are ‘too stupid to deal with the really good Iranian negotiators’?

Thoughts?  This could be THE biggest thing Obama does….and this biggest thing might just be the worst and most dangerous thing America’s ever had done to her …….

Z

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69 Responses to Iran * America * Nukes

  1. JOHN M BERGER says:

    “Depending on what we hear about this “BIG DEAL” Kerry has negotiated, what do you think Congress will do?”

    I need to hear more about the “BIG DEAL”.

  2. I don’t expect this Congress to stand up to Obama on anything.

    We had an election in November 2014. “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

  3. Big Deal?
    What, Iran capitulated instead of Kerry?
    I doubt it.
    Who is really negotiating?
    Not Obama, and I doubt Kerry.

  4. Sparky says:

    The Republicans won’t stand up to O’Boy. What will happen will happen. May the Lord have mercy on us and Israel.

  5. silverfiddle says:

    The Dhimmicrats will fall in line and support Obama, and the GOOPers will cave like wet cardboard.

    Obama has already handed the turds in turbans billions. That his the hell of it. They were on the ropes economically, and Obama saved them by reviving ‘negotiations.’ And don’t for get how his college girl foreign policy JV team ignored the Persian Spring and callously ignored the Stoning of Soraya.

    I hate to say it, but how can one not conclude that Obama is evil and intentionally helping our enemies while fanning the flames at home?

  6. JOHN M BERGER says:

    “I hate to say it, but how can one not conclude that Obama is evil………………………………………?”
    I hate to say it but how can the American people be so stupid as to let him get away with it?

  7. silverfiddle says:

    John,

    We have no recourse. Elections have consequences. We gave the Squish GOOPers House and Senate majorities, and they’ve done nothing to stop Obama’s Long March.

    DemonCraps and GOOPers are two factions of the same crime syndicate.

  8. JOHN M BERGER says:

    “DemonCraps and GOOPers are two factions of the same crime syndicate.”

    Yes, so sad but so true! I’m starting to wonder; if we could somehow garner a more intelligent, more involved electorate would it really make much difference? Well, I guess that we may never know the answer to that, given our present trajectory.

  9. geeez2014 says:

    Obama’s already talking about ignoring Congress; he wants this and he has ways of getting around the vote in Congress if the vote doesn’t go his way. The good thing is that even Democrats may not like the deal he’s struck and won’t vote that way UNLESS he promises their constituents goodies. As usual.
    If that scenario happens, we’ll be paying for folks to have free Obama phones and a new bridge in town while we’ve, in our greed and corruption, enabled Iran’s nuclear power becoming the biggest threat in the world. We have to remember that their having/getting the nukes doesn’t even mean that only that evil empire will have them; who knows who they’d sell them to in order to get around our sanctions. And who knows who could attack a nuclear plant there and take over? Couldn’t ISIS? Plus, these are people happy to die for Allah…what’s to stop them from dying in the trying?

    Sanctions are the only thing that’s worked; think we’ll drop them so the Iranians like us? I do.

    Is there ANY up side for America other than just walking out of the talks? And, if we do walk out, are Iranians just going to continue to do what they say they’re not doing…building nukes?

    We are NOT AS SMART nor are we as CUNNING as they are…. That area of the world has a mindset Americans just don’t seem to understand……And you can’t fight it unless you understand the cunning, the lies, the Machiavellian actions…etc etc….we’re just not used to it because liberals don’t understand true evil. And now our lives are at risk in these negotiations with our ‘leaders’ who don’t understand and who trust too much.

  10. silverfiddle says:

    @ Z: “We are NOT AS SMART nor are we as CUNNING as they are”

    You nailed it. Does anybody think Obama’s foreign policy JV team will not get de-pantsed in the Persian Bazaar?

    Does anyone really think the Iranians won’t get the best of this bargaining?

  11. If Obama could drag out sealing this deal until October 2016, he would do so. “October surprise!” so as to clinch the November 2016 National Election for the Dems.

  12. Mal says:

    I can’t add anything to what AOW and the rest of you said about our do-nothing GOP in Congress except I believe this inaction by them is what is propelling Trump into the limelight. People have had it with ALL politicians in BOTH parties. It really puts the onus on the rest of the GOP pack to separate themselves like The Donald did, and to do that it takes an exceptionally well-known, egotistical individual, ergo, no competition.

  13. cube says:

    I can’t look at Kerry (BTW did you know he served in the military?) and keep a straight face. Can you imagine what the mohammedans/mullahs think of him? And of us for sending him in there to negotiate for us? My grand-kitten would get us a better deal with Iran.

    My grand-kitten is quite skilled in the negotiating department. She was only supposed to be with us for a few days…

  14. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, the pack does have to separate themselves from the GOP…..but it’s not so much being well known or ego it’s MONEY, sadly.

    SF….I can’t imagine anybody coming forth and saying “And what WE have from this deal is…” (drum roll) NOTHING..NADA…ZIP..RIEN….nichts. Oh, wait…”THEY PROMISED THEY WOULDN’T USE THEIR NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR NUKES!”
    Ya, right!

    AOW: I’m thinking even Dems will find this such a bad deal that it could LOSE them 2016!!!!

    cube…..yes, I can imagine what they think of him in Iran! There they sit; OUR SIDE: Kerry and other liberals…trusting, oh-so caring, eager to be NICE, trying to show we’re not really so strong, apologizing for our past bullying…
    While they sit there, THEIR SIDE: “These idiot Americans…they don’t even realize that, as Infidels, we don’t even have to keep our promises! And, what JERKS….they’ll have to go report to ‘mommy’ and make sure their countrymen are behind this….as if money won’t pay THOSE jerks off to sign on with that idiot Obama?”
    HENRY KISSINGER said this YEARS AGO about muslims negotiating with infidels…it’s not binding….it’s only binding by US DOPES!!

  15. geeez2014 says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/13/burka-ban-in-wake-market-bombing-chad-warns-anyone-in-full-veil-will-be/?intcmp=latestnews

    WOW…not to be TOO off topic, but CHAD in Africa has it all OVER the Western world, huh?
    Congratulations, Chad. Seems to me that, in a world of terror and hidden weapons, this would just stand to reason….but I just caught the not SO Off Topic-ality of this comment….
    We are too dumb to do anything ABOUT THIS! Even if a woman or man in a burka blew up a crowded movie theater in Cincinnati, do you really think we’d arrest anybody in a burka after that? HAA

  16. Kid says:

    I agree with all of the above, but I also think regardless what anyone agrees to, Iran is going to do whatever they want. The only reason they’re negotiating is to get as much as they can outside of that like reducing or eliminating sanctions and to show the world that they won’t take any guff from the USA. Their book tells them they can lie like rugs and not do anything wrong, but why embarrass themselves by appearing to take the USA’s deal.

    They surely know they have the upper hand with kerry and obozo.

    Cube: Out of the 3 Purple Hearts kerry received – only one needed so much as a band-aid. You get three you go home which is what that was all about. JFkerry the swift boat guy was trying to make himself appear like JFKennedy the PT boat skipper. Politics was always the only goal.

  17. Mal says:

    Kid, you also could add another reason Iran keeps negotiating is for precious time. While they are negotiating, they continue to develop. If we wait long enough, they will have the capability to bomb Israel and the U.S. putting an end to “discussions.”

  18. Z,
    I’m thinking even Dems will find this such a bad deal that it could LOSE them 2016!!!!

    That’s logical, all right. But I do not believe that the Dems will split up like that. Once they have their 2016 candidate, they will unite again.

  19. Mal,
    I agree that Trump is soaring right now because so many Americans are so fed up with both political parties.

  20. Kid says:

    Mal, Agree on the time factor. I’m not sure they’d bomb the US using a missile or even by planting a bomb in a city. Surely that would be suicide for them. The imbecile says he would never use a nuke but that would have to be the time the rest of the country and authorities call it quits with obama. Surely, some American submarine captain would retaliate in that event. I know I would, consequences be damned. Israel would surely join in.

  21. Kid says:

    I think Trump’s popularity is temporary. Maybe not, but I fully expect America’s right leaning voters to chicken out again and go for what they think is the safe choice.

  22. Mal says:

    AOW, and I agree with your assessment that the DEMS will reunite once they have their candidate because they don’t seem to get it. They learned nothing during “O’s” first term by re-electing him so why should we expect things to be any different this time. Lets face it: If they were wise in the first place they wouldn’t be Dems! Stupidity has become a prerequisite!

  23. Kid says:

    With dems it is also Not about the issues or the character of the individual. It’s all about keeping the IV drip going. From losers to union people and every kind of dependency in between.

  24. JOHN M BERGER says:

    @Z,
    “cunning, the lies, the Machiavellian actions”
    Well, our Fraud-in-Chief is a master of all of that so if he was really on our side we should have seen the whole process go in an entirely different direction-we haven’t. Yes “liberals don’t understand true evil” and that’s why we have [him]!

  25. geeez2014 says:

    Kid’s right…KEEP THE IV DRIP GOING……….

    BUT, AOW, I do think that Trump is soaring because BOTH sides are fed up…. We have to remember that not all Democrats are rabid leftwing socialists and some even THINK (yes, I believe they do!!! :-))

    Do you know ANYBODY who hasn’t said to himself, at least, “GeeeZ, we have GOT to have better immigration enforcement, even a BIG WALL… ” or “This healthcare thing is working for the poor, but my policy’s gone UP…what happened!?” or “Why does Obama even TALK to this jerks in Iran? He knows they’re outsmarting his people!” or “I’m not so sure it’s so good to be taxing small businesses….Aunt Betty and Uncle Paul had to change their minds about going into business!” or “Boy, it sure does seem like Obama’s dividing races…it was better under Bush!” or “Man, that job on that construction site was taken by an illegal, that’s wrong…poor Bob didn’t get hired!”

    NOBODY hasn’t thought some of that some of the time…NOBODY. OK..maybe not some of the more rabid leftwingers at the blogs, but…….

    They’re hating Trump as they secretly like what he’s saying.
    I’ve had TWO Hispanics at Smart and Final and Ralphs Grocery Store tell ME they think that if the minimum wage goes up, nobody’ll be able to buy ANYTHING because the costs are going to be passed on………..that’s just to ME. Imagine how many others might be thinking that?

    Mal; they are buying time; You’re 100% correct.

    Kid, we have to remember muslims are happy to be blown up…a First Class Express ticket to heavenly virgins, right? 🙂
    Honestly, some Persians are SO nice…i had a chat with a woman at the store today from Iran….it wasn’t a deep conversation, but she was very nice. And most of the women are so beautiful, I have to say; no wonder many don’t want to cover up with a veil 🙂

  26. geeez2014 says:

    JMB: EXCELLENT remark…that’s exactly why we have HIM!!

  27. Kid says:

    Z, Imagine, sex as your final reward – for Eternity. Very shallow individuals..

  28. JOHN M BERGER says:

    “Express ticket to heavenly virgins”

    What happens when they find that there’s no 73rd virgin and they can’t come back?

  29. geeez2014 says:

    JMB….yuck!! What a thought! Do they wear burkas in muslim-heaven, too!?

    Kid…ya, imagine that? (Smile)

    The problem is that they WANT TO DIE; not easy to have an enemy who looks forward to martyrdom; like Kamikazes in WWII. Thank goodness there weren’t too many of them. Or, rather, is it that we actually FOUGHT THEM HARD so we didn’t SEE too many of them?!!!

  30. JOHN M BERGER says:

    At least we knew who the KAMIKAZES were. These freaks walk among us, often incognito. I just heard of some Boston cop’s son who has joined the fray.

  31. geeez2014 says:

    JMB, even our little kids have been told that America is a terrible racist, war mongering place….they have no heroes of good character, they have every historical thing being run into the ground by liberals: They think Christians are mean and bigoted.
    I think we’re going to see a LOT more American kids ‘joining the fray’…I really do. You know what kind of stuff college kids are hearing!!

    And, I also think kids like structure and we have no rules and regs that anybody pays attention to anymore….anything goes, lest the PC police gets you…parents are largely permissive, afraid of their kids these days, for SOME reason………..
    Muslims come alone offering very rigid guidelines for prayer, offering them community, offering an outlet for the confusion and hurt our kids are suffering from very few laws, not respecting their parents or teachers …

    I’m exaggerating only a little. We all know GREAT parents and great kids…but we have to all admit we live in a very different country these days.
    I know I sound like a huge downer, but our kids are suffering and nobody’s doing anything about it but teach them about homosexuality and champion immorality and hearing ‘why study? you’re not going to find a job, anyway’, etc. etc.

    Actually, I was in a pretty darned good mood till I started this comment 🙂

  32. Bob says:

    Kid: ” Imagine, sex as your final reward – for Eternity. Very shallow individuals..”

    Speak for yourself, young man.

  33. Bob says:

    Z: Many people will think this is the biggest thing Obama has ever done. However, it is arguable that the act of abandoning two hard won battlefields, thereby losing two hard fought wars in the process. The act of giving Iraq and Afghanistan over to terrorists changes the world. Add in the act of giving Iran nuclear weapons, and we will find the stage set for slaughter on a huge scale.

    Only people of shallow minds could see anything Obama has done in his Presidency as good or positive. Remember, thinking people never voted for Obama, just the gullible and the less intelligent.

  34. Bob said: ” just the gullible and the less intelligent.”
    At the risk of alienating some friends here, that describes Trump supporters.
    I was thinking that this morning, listening to the radio.
    We have low information voters going for Trump.
    If a guy is saying something you like at the moment, and I do too, are we to forget all the stuff in his past?

  35. Silverlady says:

    First of all, THERE AIN’T NO VIRGINS! Not even plug ugly ones.

    Second, I just heard on Fox that Bampot will call it something, maybe an ‘Executive Order’, that will only require 1/3 + 1 vote to pass. Then, after his approval they will have to go the full 2/3 to override the veto. Those wacko Liberal Dems better remember next year is an election year. Billary, too.

    Remember the Arabic word, TAQQIYA; ‘the honorable’ practice of a Muslim lying to a giaour, an unbeliever, us.

  36. Mustang says:

    I think if you keep your expectations low about the federal government, you are far less likely to be disappointed. My expectations could not possibly be lower. I think there are some members of congress who are working hard to do the right thing, but I also believe they are regularly thwarted by the insiders. If these youngsters have been reelected, then they know that if they want to stay in congress, kissing the speaker’s ass, or the minority whip’s ass, is job number one. They are the people who decide who gets money from the national party. Play ball, or start looking for a new job. I have often imagined what an improved country this would be were it not for the Secret Service.

    As to negotiating with Iran, what outcomes are even possible given the two idiots who are orchestrating this disaster? It has been predicted that Iran will destroy the “New World City.” Obama and Kerry have never been more dedicated to fulfilling that prophesy.

  37. mtelloian@yahoo.com says:

    Ed, we will see. Perhaps you are right.

  38. Mustang says:

    @ Ed

    What frustrates me is that we have anyone going for any body at this early date. Why? We should all sit back and watch the comedy unfold and then make a decision come primary elections. After that, we can pretty much flip the coin. It will have to be either Tweedle Dee, or Tweedle Dum.

  39. Kid says:

    Bob:

    “Kid: ” Imagine, sex as your final reward – for Eternity. Very shallow individuals..”

    Speak for yourself, young man.”

    Talk to me after a milion years… 😉 (I should have said sex Only I guess)

  40. Kid says:

    Bob, PS – I just heard one of the propaganda channels dissing Wlaker based on his ‘lack of foreign policy experience’. LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggghhhhh

    It never ends.

  41. Imp says:

    @Mustang…”I have often imagined what an improved country this would be were it not for the Secret Service.”

    I couldn’t agree more…Jon Malvo or 1000 Chris Kyles anyone? Look….we’re being suffocated and downright enslaved by a minority in the country. That minority is the powerful, privileged, pompous, patronizing and pedantic pusillanimous pukes that are in Congress and the royal senate. The reason people hear and want Trump now…is precisely because he is the most un PC man on the block. He’s hit a nerve that millions and millions of hard working, middle class Americans are in tune with. We’re fed up…pissed off and disgusted with these bastards that promise us everything at election time…and as soon as it’s over and they get back in…they’re the same as the bastards we voted against. I’d love to see Trump get a shot….I can’t imagine that lying, screeching, POS, criminal hag sitting in that damn Oval office. I pray every night that she has a disgruntled German copilot on her chartered jet over the Atlantic. We’ll build a memorial to the POS that she is and “weep about how adored, admired and accomplished” this fraud was…and Bill and the rest of us will breathe a sigh of relief and live ( especially Bill ) happily ever after.

  42. geeez2014 says:

    Bob…good retort to Kid about shallowness 🙂
    And yes, I can’t imagine anybody thinking anything O has done is good or positive…and he’s putting us in peril now with this Iran Deal. Of course, Iranians know many of us are smarter than that, so I guess they either are laughing at us because we’re stuck with him or pity us….

    Ed, I don’t think most of those Trump fans are actually going to vote for him.
    Donald “I’m so rich” Trump is a spoiled, conceited windbag who, as I said above, who’s saying out LOUD everything most people can only think, so it’s refreshing to a lot of folks; even me, when I can get past who he is, how conceited he is and the HAIR 🙂 Plus, it’s allowing Republican candidates to go a little farther in their opinions, more truthful, because they’re STILL not as ‘out there’ as he is. I like that…he’s pushing the envelope HARD and forcing conversations about truths we all want addressed.

    Mustang!! “I have often imagined what an improved country this would be were it not for the Secret Service” I’m laughing my head of. I can’t STAND it, I just can’t STAND it…SO FUNNY!
    The way you have of putting things…………!! What’s the NEW WORLD CITY???
    Mustang…..either Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dummer.
    And yes; let’s all calm down; we’ve got more than a year to go!

    Mal…I know you’re a fan of Trump’s and I think it’s more what I said than actually wanting to VOTE for the guy, don’t you?

  43. Kid says:

    SilverLady. No Virgins… ah yea. 25 years ago when I was about to marry my first wife, my Dad mentioned that maybe I should look for a virgin. I said Dad, I’m not interested in 13 year olds. (I was 36 at the time and she was 25.)

    Today what is it – 8 years old?

  44. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, oh, well….you know, Obama had TONS of foreign policy experience….and, to show that, he fires anybody who really DOES have foreign experience and dares to tell him the truth! See how big and intelligent he is? (Smile)

    I heard today that the reason Walker’s been quiet the last couple of months is he’s actually been boning up on foreign experience with a lot of really good experts. I admire him for that.
    The News already is saying “HE DIDN’T GRADUATE COLLEGE SO HE ISN”T SMART ENOUGH”

    Frankly, I look at that as a PLUS.

    Imp! OH, gad….I’m sitting here wondering if I should leave your comment suggesting anybody shooting HER. Heck, after Ducky said “Breitbart ought to be in a body bag” (about a month before Breitbart died in his early forties so suddenly), I can’t delete YOU! Plus, it kind of cheered me up !!!

  45. Kid says:

    Z, I’ll freely admit it. I pray for the death of the Hildebeast. I own it. I’ll take it with me to judgement day. I won’t be the instrument, but I sure hope some airplane or van, or other random event is.

  46. Mal Telloian says:

    Actually, Z, I DO like the guy, even though he is a Prima Dona, mainly because he is NOT a politician and does NOT need the money. Look at Ron Reagan. He was an actor. A lot of folks made fun of him. “Breakfast with Bongo” or whatever. Then look at what he accomplished! No. I’ll still take Donald over everyone else and apparently I am not alone, given his growing popularity.
    In the beginning no one wanted to take him seriously, but they are quickly realizing he makes a lot of sense. Time will tell. Its going to be fun watching him tear everyone else apart. Hey! Unlike all the others, he has nothing to lose. If he doesn’t make it, he’ll simply continue making his fortune. We need him and should be thankful he is willing to give up so much to help us out of this mess.

  47. geeez2014 says:

    Mal! here’s the deal; I DREAD if he gets on the debate because he will rip everybody a new one and that is NOT what Republicans need…I hate that the Rs are SO wishy-washy, but we have to let ONE of them WIN and Trump’s going to do NOTHING but make ALL THE CANDIDATES look terrible. That, we don’t need.
    i’m hoping one of them, at least, can pin HIS ears back (if they can get past the HAIR!) and make HIM bumble and stumble over his words. It shouldn’t be too hard to say “Give us specifics about jobs in America…” or something like that. That’ll stump him.
    He’s great at GRAND PLANS but can’t really belly up to the bar and solve problems, I don’t think.

  48. geeez2014 says:

    Clinton’s just vowed to raise taxes; I’m thinking nobody but the VERY ELITIST DEMOCRAT DOPES are for THAT.

  49. Mustang: During the onset of the VA debacle I wondered if there were no stage four Marine snipers just a little ticked off at the state of things.
    And yes. I’m wondering why guys I like went all out for Cruz without waiting for a bit.
    Now they are locked in by their own proclamations.
    What’s the rush?
    If anybody asked, I like Walker and Perry and Jindal. Guys with track records.
    But I don’t have to choose which one, yet.

  50. Mustang says:

    @ Z

    Nostradamus (who is not to be confused with Nostradumbass, which is Ducky) wrote several of his quatrains referencing “the new city.” People who today are attempting to figure out his predictions argue that the New City is “New York City.” Maybe not.

    Century 1, Quatrain 24
    The new city contemplating a condemnation,
    The bird of prey offers itself to the heavens.
    After victory pardon to the captives,
    Cremona and Mantua will have suffered great evils.

    In the foregoing case, he speaks of the new city but then makes reference to two towns in Northern Italy. This is what happens when you’re on a mushroom soup diet.

    Century 1, Quatrain 87
    Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
    Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
    Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
    And then Arethusa (the waterer) will color a new river red.

    … or use locoweed as an elixir.

    Century 6, Quatrain 97
    At forty-five degrees, the sky will burn,
    Fire approaches the great new city,
    Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
    When they want to have verification from the Normans.

    I have heard grown people say that in the above Quatrain, Nostradamus was predicting the 9/11 attacks upon New York City. The problem is, if he was talking about New York City then his computations were off. New York sits as 40 degrees north latitude. But what is this reference to Normans? Several cities are located at 45 degrees North, including Lyon.

    Century 9, Quatrain 92
    The king will want to enter the new city,
    Through its enemies they will come to subdue it
    Captives liberated to speak and act falsely,
    King to be outside, he will keep far from the enemy.

    No doubt Nostradamus attended Howard University along with Racael Dolezal.

    Century 10, Quatrain 49
    Garden of the world near the new city,
    In the path of the hollow mountains,
    It will be seized and plunged into the Vat,
    Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur.

    God only knows …

  51. bunkerville says:

    Obama is working this as an Executive action as opposed to treaty. Thus, only a simple majority of either the House or Senate need approve it as I understand it. If the first round it goes down, then Obama can over ride it this way. IT is a done deal. Sleep well.

  52. bunkerville says:

    According to McConnell 37 votes needed.

  53. I see that the escapee El Chapo is now on Twitter and telling Donald Trump to shut up — or else.

  54. Z,
    Trump is soaring because BOTH sides are fed up

    That may be so. But the GOP naysayers are out in force. Karl Rove makes me want to puke!

    If the GOP has a lick of sense — doubtful — the GOP will realize that immigration must be forcefully addressed by any GOP candidate. So far, which GOP candidate has truly done so? Carly Fiorina, sort of, anyway.

  55. Kid says:

    Mustang, Nostradamus. All you have to do (like atrologists) is talk about common things like war, buttheads, evil politicians, money, etc and be concise yet vague enough that many events fit your ‘prediction’. MANY fuure events WILL fit your prediction. Just like conditions jut before endtimes btw. Wars, rumors of wars………

    Though Jeane Dixon told JFK not to go to Dallas. Now that is a horse of a different color.

  56. Kid says:

    AOW, Karl Rove, Puke – Check !

    The GOP has yet to realize they need to run a Conservative candidate. Good Lord, I read where 80% of evangelicals stayed home and didn’t bother to vote Against obama the moslem in 2012 !
    Mathematically extend that concept.

  57. Imp says:

    By a Vet:

    TIME IS LIKE A RIVER…..

    IT’S SAD TO KNOW THAT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN’S CHILDREN WILL NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE WONDERFUL YEARS IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY THAT YOU AND I HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH AND ABLE TO ENJOY.
    IT IS JUST AS SAD TO SEE WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY AND KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON, YOU AND I, ARE VIRTUALLY HELPLESS TO CHANGE THE DESTRUCTIVE COURSE THAT WE ARE ON:

    Franklin Graham was speaking at the First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida a few weeks back when he said America will not come back. Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the flow that has passed will never pass again. Written by a USMC Vet.(I can’t argue with any of it. Passing it along as it was received.) He wrote: The American Dream ended (on November 6th, 2012) in Ohio. The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind!

    A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the “forever needy,” the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other “fellow travelers” have ended Norman Rockwell’s America. The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch… The Pit Bull is in the back yard. The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their beige puppet to bring us Act 2 of the New World Order!

    Our side ran two candidates who couldn’t even win their own home states, and Chris Christie helped Obama over the top with a glowing “post Sandy” tribute that elevated the “Commander-in-Chief” to Mother Teresa status. (Aside: with the way the polls were run, he didn’t need any help anyway!) People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will never again comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired!

    You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take Zealots, not moderates & shy not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.
    Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to “white guilt” and political correctness…..

    An American Veteran………

  58. Kid says:

    IMP, Sadly, I think if everyone on the right voted, it would be a no contest.

  59. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, you are absolutely correct; if evangelical Christians (who aren’t NUTTY like the media’s made that word “evangelical”.) voted, we’d have won. By a long shot. But, you see, Romney was MORMON and, as many bloggers even said “Not CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH..we’ll show HIM” Well, they showed AMerica…the door.

    Mustang..yes, I’ll be on God’s side. Only He knows, though predictions are fascinating..as Kid said, particularly Jeane Dixon’s! If Nostradamus is right, and the NEW CITY is NEW YORK, I just heard on Megyn Kelly that one councilwoman wants to make public urination legal. Go, New York! 🙂

    AOW; Karl Rove started many months ago slamming Ted Cruz…I remember thinking “Wow, you’d better tow the GOP line or you are TOAST.” …and every time I hear Rove on FOX, I think of that. He despises the tough guys who aren’t playing ball with the GOP. If Rove holds up yet again a stupid white board with his lousy handwriting showing his statistics, I’m ……..ugh.

    Imp; I believe that Vet is correct…particularly if good people still refuse to SPEAK UP due to fear of Political Correctness. He is right. I hate to admit it.

  60. geeez2014 says:

    By the way, folks….particularly AOW: I HONESTLY thought Carly Fiorina was a shill for the Far Right; that it was SHE who’d do the dirty work for the weak men who’re afraid to really tell the truth BUT have more chance of running. I thought someone somewhere had picked Fiorina to really SPEAK OUT about illegals, the economy, etc., because SHE IS A WOMAN and can’t be blamed for being ANTI WOMAN with Hillary.
    Then came Donald “I’m SO rich” Trump………..maybe she’s on the WOMAN thing and HE is on the other subjects that must be addressed but Republicans are too darned scared to?

    Did anybody see Kate Steinle’s amazing brother on The Kelly File tonight? What a fabulous man he is…and what a HORRIBLE loss to him and his family…WHAT a loss. He’s a hero.

    I can’t IMAGINE that awful WH not at least calling them to offer condolences……….Obama admin types have gone to all the Black funerals lately, but nobody’s even CALLED the Steinle family …..no surprise, huh?

  61. Imp says:

    @Z..”Did anybody see Kate Steinle’s amazing brother on The Kelly File tonight?”

    Hell of a man I’d say…but I wonder just how long these people will stay “apolitical”? A low life scumbag who should have never been here kills a wonderful young woman….( who I’d like to have just 1 minute with ) and they’re not hateful of this rotten sheriff and city? Or a “potus” that only pays tributes to street thugs and sends federal employees to their “memorials”? Not a phone call from the DOJ? Where’s all this “white” privilege I keep hearing about?

  62. Kid says:

    IMP, 89 pardoned on obammy’s latest prison pardon for punishment doesn’t fit the crime tour. So far.
    How many do you think are white? Maybe there are some, we don’t know.
    How many will emerge with new moslem names. Again we don’t know but combining knowledge of obama events the last 5 years leads us to wonder.

  63. Imp says:

    Oh good God…wil the madness ever end?

    The U.S. military is weighing whether it will conduct or fund gender transition surgery and treatment once the ban on open service by transgender people is rescinded.

    On Monday, Defense Secretary Ashton Carter issued two directives, bringing the Pentagon closer to lifting the Department of Defense (DoD) policy barring transgender persons from wearing the uniform.

    An unnamed senior defense official told the Associated Press (AP) that the ultimate goal is to lift the ban.

    “Some of the key concerns involved in the repeal of the ban on transgender individuals include whether the military would conduct or pay for the medical costs, surgeries and other treatment associated with any gender transition, as well as which physical training or testing standards transgender individuals would be required to meet during different stages of their transition,” notes AP.

    Unnamed defense officials told AP that “the military also wants time to tackle questions about where transgender troops would be housed, what uniforms they would wear, what berthing they would have on ships, which bathrooms they would use and whether their presence would affect the ability of small units to work well together.”

    Carter announced that the DoD will create a working group to study, over the next six months, the implications that allowing transgenders to serve openly in the military will have on policy and readiness.

    “The Defense Department’s current regulations regarding transgender service members are outdated and are causing uncertainty that distracts commanders from our core missions,” said Carter in a statement issued Monday.

  64. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; I thought the brother was more believable and sympathetic because he kept saying they were ‘centrist’…he didn’t have a political ax to grind; kind of refreshing, in my book.
    And he CERTAINLY did not give a pass to the Sheriff or the White House, don’t you think? I could tell he was inwardly furious. At least he didn’t make excuses for those horrible people.

    IMAGINE a president who was so involved with the killings of 3 black kids but totally ignores Steinle…Someone on FOX said they thought it was because FOX was championing the story that the ever FOX-hating president was ignoring Steinle’s family. I thought that was a stretch.
    I think they just can’t make political hay on this and they can’t cause a racial divide through this murder AND they don’t want too much attention paid to the FACT that illegals DO commit horrid crimes…so they’re silent.

    Kid; these pardons are nuts….I mean, I can see a few guys who’ve been in a while, weren’t in for violent crime…like embezzling or something, getting out early, but this seems very odd. Funny, it just came to mind that presidents often do pardons just before leaving office. I hope this is prophetic !! HAAAAAAA!!

  65. Mustang says:

    @ Z

    Proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the President of the United States is a racist pig.

  66. JOHN M BERGER says:

    Oh good God…wil the madness ever end?

    Sorry Z but I just spent time making a good one and then I got kicked- off without a chance for recovery. I’m not going to recreate it but just to say that the “madness” won’t end in the foreseeable future. How about 15 year olds getting sex change without parental permission/knowledge in the state of Oregon which seems to be in direct competition with the NUTHOUSE BY THE BAY!!!!!

  67. Kid says:

    Z, I would bet that the obamas like the clintons will have a midnight fire sale on presidential pardons.

  68. JOHN M BERGER says:

    So, the first response from the Fraud-in-Chief after the consummation of the “BIG DEAL” was a threat to Congress. What a POS !!!!

  69. Mal says:

    Z, let Trump rip all the others. If they have the moxey, they can and should respond. If not, step aside. I’m simply tired of wishy-washy politicians and believe most others are, too, and tired of being disappointed by not only not living up to not only their promises, but their legal duties as well. Another thing Trump can use to get the attention of the public is to cut Congressional salaries and require they go on Obamacare, and their retirement should be lumped in with Social Security and be put on it upon retirement just like the rest of us. THEN……..watch how they will rescue it!
    He is the only one in the group that doesn’t need it.
    (I’m sorry I was so late responding. We had family visiting since Sat. evening).

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