Does he have a CHANCE?
Let’s talk about it…………….very interesting to consider.
From THIS article: “Though he recently suffered the loss of his son Beau, the death was not unexpected, and Biden was soon back in circulation. His son, who died of brain cancer, urged him to run; throwing his hat into the ring might pay genuine homage to Beau’s memory.
President Obama is known to be very fond of his vice president, to whom he has frequently turned for help with Congress, and with voters. He is not fond of Hillary, and the Beltway gossip mills for months have suggested that the White House is quietly engineering Hillary’s defeat.”
Focusing on all that Obama conjecture, or putting it entirely aside, what do you think are Biden’s chances of running instead of Hillary…or actually being elected?
Z
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GeeeZ .... 
Confabulating Joe as POTUS? I think not!
About confabulation:
Confabulation (verb: confabulate) is a memory disturbance, defined as the production of fabricated, distorted or misinterpreted memories about oneself or the world, without the conscious intention to deceive….
[…]
Most known cases of confabulation are symptomatic of brain damage…such as aneurysm…
Joe Biden has had two known aneurysms — dating back to 1988.
I bring up confabulation because Mr. AOW had a bad case of it for several months after his stroke. He still has to fight the tendency to confabulate.
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BTW, I have blogged about Joe Biden’s confabulation.
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Confabulation or not, he’s creepy .around women with inappropriate touching.
He’s demonstrably wrong on every foreign policy issue he’s opined on.
Forign policy is supposed to be his forte.
He’s closely attached to Obama’s domestic policies, which we know to be harmful.
He’ll have the media covering for him.
He’s a shoe in.
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What’s not to like?
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Ed,
I don’t give Biden a pass because he likely has organically-based brain issues.
Will the Democratic Party seriously consider running Biden as a candidate for POTUS?
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The short list:
Joe Biden Gaffes.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1895156,00.html
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Sorry, AOW. Previous comment not a reply to you.
This is.
I wasn’t suggesting that you were excusing Biden with confabulation, just acknowledging that I read your comments, which I agree with.
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AOW asks “Will the Democratic Party seriously consider running Biden as a candidate for POTUS?”.
I heard a guy on the radio telling the host that he was sick of the Republican PArty force feeding us non-conservative candidates.
Mark Davis replied that the party doesn’t make those decisions.
The convention caucusing back room cigar smoke candidates are a thing of the past.
We, and they (the dems), get who we primary.
Sure, the deep pocket donors have a say as to presentation (along with a complicit media), but the party doesn’t run someone. They get behind someone.
So if by your (and by extension Z’s) question, “will the dems run Biden?” you mean will the left support him in a primary run? He has the implicit Obama support and is more charming than Hillary.
And he is less indictable at the moment 🙂
Would he win?
I said, “He’s a shoe in” in a humorous way, but it’s not so funny.
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I’d take Joe over Hillary. At least Biden has America’s best interests at heart, even if is priorities are whacked.
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The mere chance that a nut like Biden could be considered for POTUS should be stunning but I guess that we are used to it by now! I always thought of Biden (VP) as a form of life insurance for the current Fraud-in-Chief and nothing more, whatsoever.
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So, we would go from ruining this country on purpose to doing it through incompetence?
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Ed,,,,:”The convention caucusing back room cigar smoke candidates are a thing of the past.”
I’ve said on my blog for years that smoke filled rooms are greatly underrated…..it got people TALKING. Conventions are one thing, all are the same party and so talk isn’t THAT big a deal, but when the Congressional representatives all lived in Washington (when it wasn’t so easy to get home every weekend so most moved TO Washington over the years), they smoked and drank together, partied together with their wives, went to school events for their kids…all different parties, all being civil. This ability to NOT live in D.C. is another BIG PROBLEM. People don'[t TALK.
AOW….yes, confabulation is still happening from time to time with ol’ Joe…and with Ed’s list of gaffes we’ve all seen over the years, and the video that jarred us all a few years back, I’d have THOUGHT there was NO WAY Joe could run; but those were the days when these things would be exposed again not just to and by Conservatives but to everyone, because our media USED TO cover stories fairly, with less bias. It was an unspoken rule. Not any more.
And I think he is a possible ‘shoe in’, by the way.
SF…I’m with you; I’d take Biden over Hillary ANY ANY ANY day…I do believe he loves this country.
JMB…it IS amazing how much we can being inured to, isn’t it….after ALL the gaffes, how COULD he be considered seriously…but he will be.
Woodster; I’d laugh at your very clever comment but it IS too true to be funny….in normal days, we’d have howled.
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I agree with Silverfiddle that at least Biden has America’s best interest at heart. I was unaware of his brain issues. How did he ever get into public office with that? I had always considered him a yo-yo but never knew about his confabulation problems. THAT’S all we need, folks! i mean, is that the best the left can come up with? Actually, given the direction his party has taken us I don’t believe they have any chance in 2016 no matter WHO they select to run. Meanwhile, Donald keeps gaining momentum from the left, right, and the middle despite anything he says, and the left tries to belittle him which doesn’t work, either. The more he is attacked, the stronger he gets. Why? Because people are tired of politics as usual and want REAL change, not what Obama’s change turned out to be. They are actually looking at the candidates accomplishments instead of simply accepting them based on their speeches.
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EVERYBODY:
Did you all see Debbie Wasserman Schultz say on Matthews’ show that “the Democrats are a BIG TENT PARTY, unlike the Republcians”?
I almost howled laughing in my car when I heard that…..”ya, Deb…..you have about 4 nominees, we have about 20, all of whom have varying ideas on how to solve the problems in America (thanks to you Dems) and YOU have the BIG TENT?” 🙂
She also found it SO DIFFICULT to justify an avowed Socialist like Sanders speaking at the Dem National Convention….AOW’s blog covered this and that made me laugh, too…….I was surprised Matthews even thought there WAS a difference in his party and Socialism.
Does anybody here remember when Chris Matthews actually had pretty centrist opinions? Mr Z and I liked him back in the day for that….. Wow, has he changed, though he was laughing that Debbie would allow a Socialist like Bernie to speak in prime time at the DNC Convention!
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Well, Hillary is sinking – now. And HE is all political animal in the clubbish sense. Perfect for Obama because of his deep relationships with Senate – which O was totally lacking in. That is the ONLY explanation in my book of how he ended up at VEEP – especially after saying Obama was the first articulate, bright and clean black candidate.
As a long-time member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations he was shockingly ignorant of some of the most basic facts on the ground vis-a-vis our own neighbors in South America. Confabulation or not, he’s just a pretty face who’s embedded in the political club. The horror of someone ‘going after’ Obama has always been magnified by the prospect of this dolt succeeding him. I believe many have mused that he’s a life insurance policy, of sorts, for Mr. O.
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Mal, WE KNOW! YOU and Hannity and many others want Trump to be the nominee….we’ll see what happens!
I think the Dems have a VERY good chance to run but I LOVE YOUR OPTIMISM!!
and I hope, that in November, 2016, you come and say “See Z! The Republicans WON!” but I pray to God it won’t be Donald “I’m so rich” Trump.
Do you know he was emailing Hugh Hewitt, the talk show host, about why he couldn’t come speak to him the other day and said something like “Hugh, I’ll come next week, this week I’m in Great Britain at a golf course (WHICH I OWN) watching a tournament”/ “WHICH I OWN”…gad, does he EVER stop loving himself and what he’s got?
I don’t WANT to be something else he’s GOT.
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Your question was “does it have a chance?” I stand with Woodsterman. And after our last fiasco, I have to say “yes.” After all, the media will cover for him. Same hands behind the curtain moving the puppet.
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After years and years of making a FOOL of himself, publically, how/why would he garner support from anyone except another FOOL? OK, on second thought, his chances may not be all that bad!
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Baysider, I totally agree. To some, he was a a life insurance policy, to others, that was a nightmare scenario… OK, nobody’s a worse nightmare than Obama, but…. 🙂
JMB…isn’t it amazing? In any other country, I believe the people would be laughing too hard to vote for him! He does say the goofiest things, nibbles on the necks of women other than his wife, purportedly likes to swim nude in front of female secret service agents, gets taped singing while drunk (see above video!), gets things wrong, insults minorities……………..and look!
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Joe could Easily be elected. Any demorat could easily be elected. Liberal voters could care less about:
– a person’s character, class, couth
– a person’s allegience to America
– a person’s abilty to deal with the issues at hand.
because…
– they have no character, class or couth
– they have no allegience to America
– the don’t understand the issues themselves.
Old Joe has been in the Senate since he was 23. Look who else they vote in. Hank Johnson and most of the other black congress critters who are imbeciles themselves.
It does seem like hirod does not have the entire front line of blockers obama had/has.
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AOW, Biden’s brain issues. No there is a thought. Put someone who you don’t think could get elected and who your really want (think LBJ) as VP and let nature take it’s course, even if you have to hurry it along a little.
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Finally, with Joe, we’d go from evil incompetence to funny as hell incomeptence. Imagine the many more opportunities Joe will have to say something totally absurd. I’m starting to get behind old Joe if we can’t get a conservative. Depending on the VP.
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Kid “It does seem like hilrod does not have the entire front line of blockers obama had/has”
I think you make a really good point here…I sense that, too.
Terrible insinuation about LBJ and, of course, JFK :-)!!
You’re starting to get behind old Joe if we can’t get a conservative…..you mean if we know whatever conservative can’t win you’d VOTE for ol’ Joe? I HOPE NOT!!
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/maureen-dowd-ailing-beau-biden-urged-vice-president-to-take-on-clinton-120897.html
Just saw this article of interest….nothing we don’t really know, but….we’d all heard Beau Biden had urged his dad to run just before Beau succumbed to brain cancer….so horrible.
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Z, No, I always vote Against democrats. In fact I have yet to vote For someone.
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That’s what I thought, but I got worried 🙂
And yes……rare to vote FOR someone. Did you not vote FOR REAGAN, by the way?
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I just live the way the left makes fun of republican candidates but who do they have,the bumbling clown Biden,Obama the unknown,a white billionaire eliitist clown , who’s only claim to fame is her last name,and Bernie Sanders an old unkempt socialist.
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Lisa, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz revels that HER party is “The BIG TENT party” 🙂 That really cracked me up. 20 Republican candidates with differing viewpoints; Democrats with only redistribution and all the rest, and THEY’re the BIG TENT!? 🙂
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I am convinced that Joe Biden is an alcoholic, or is addicted to some other drug. My proof is that the things he says, no sober person would say. The guy is a real buffoon, not only to me but to almost everybody else in the USA, too.
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Z, Reagan – I wasn’t voting in those days. I was doing the starving artist thing but without the art.
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I wish that I could believe that there aren’t enough whack-a-doodle people to vote [him] into office and his nomination would assure us of a win, no matter who our nominee is. Alas, the last two General Election results cause me to think otherwise. In fact I couldn’t even be sure if their nominee was Nancy Pelosi!
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I will admit that there are a few fruit loops running for a GOP nomination, but I cannot imagine that any American would ever again vote for a Democrat for president. The other day at one of the Google Plus firearms communities, some dip stick had the temerity to post a political ad on behalf of HRC. He was soundly chastised for that and I wondered at the time, “What was this guy thinking?” Well, no kidding … he wasn’t thinking. He’s a Democrat.
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If Biden jumps in, those precious emails of Clinton may find a new home. Run joe run.
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They are an amazing bunch Z .Big Tent party,give us a break.Wasserman has the personality of Hal
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Bob, have you seen the video above? 🙂
Kid…..no fun to starve if there isn’t, at least, some art!
JMB: You’re kidding, right? NOT ENOUGH?!! I wish you were right, and I know you do, too!
Mustang….unbelievable story…and yes, a Democrat wouldn’t even understand the error of his ways! Heck, Obama surely hasn’t.
Bunk… I am still reeling at the thought that there are people who really believe the State Department under Obama’s telling ANY truth on those emails, right?
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Lisa….I laughed in my car when I heard that! “BIG TENT PARTY” and she repeats things like that over and over again in the same 2 minutes, as if convincing herself and knowing she’s protected by the host and the media, that whatever she says will be believed.
I had to hand it to that Chris Matthews, tho…he DID give her a hard time. Kind of amazing.
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Z,
“JMB: You’re kidding, right? NOT ENOUGH?!! I wish you were right, and I know you do, too!”
I think that you may need to read my comment again.
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JMB…I don’tt think so! I wish there weren’t enough people to vote for a nut like Biden but there are…. Right?
Ed,.. thanks…just in case anybody hadn’t seen or heard of this, it’s important they do. Matthews made a fool of her…go figure….Mr. Leftwinger actually holding MS Leftwinger’s feet to the fire.
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The way I see it, there are 3 ways that the demons will retain the oval office. 1. Something happens that gives obummer a chance to declare Martial Law, in which case there WILL be a revolution. 2. Donald the braggart asshole Trump manages to BUY the Republican primary. 3. Same asshole as #2 loses primary but runs as an independent or 3rd party candidate because he is such an egomaniacle asshole.
In all 3 scenarios it won’t matter whether Clinton, Biden, or Sanders is the demon.
Personally, if it comes down to a demon or Trump (who I HATE because he thinks he can buy the Presidency) I WILL VOTE FOR MYSELF!!! That is a promise!
OT—-see a Marine veteran blast the shit out of our CIC over Chattanooga. It will be the best 11 minutes you could find! Well worth watching.
http://theaverageamericanparty.blogspot.com/2015/08/chattanooga-marine-veterans-direct.html
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Joe, I understand how you feel about Trump and agree. The reason I (and probably others) like him is because he not only can take what the left will sling at him like they did Palin and Romney, but also dish it back, and I also believe they would have a certain amount of restraint due to fear of backlash from the guy. Drastic situations require drastic measures, and boy! are we in drastic times right now. The Left has had a field day with the Right the past 6 or 7 years and the “Trumpet”
is just the guy to do it, don’t you think?
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@Mal,
Let’s say that ,hypothetically, Trump maintains his lead and becomes the Republican nominee; how do you think he would do in the General Election? I don’t have a ‘short list’ yet. When I do, of paramount importance to me will be, to the fullest extent possible, not allowing another DemocRAT to execute the final Coup de Grace of this once proud Nation!
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Mal, Maybe Cruz or Walker. We’ll see
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Too soon to tell, guys! Lets at least wait till after the debate this Thursday. After all, a year from now we still will have 3 months till election. ANYTHING can happen between now and then, and probably will.
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@Mal,
FAIR ENOUGH!
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