Sunday Faith Blog

“Sometimes God allows what he hates to accomplish what he loves.”

A quote by Joni Eareckson Tada.

Do you think Joni’s right?  Why do you think God allows what He ‘hates’?

God knows

“As the heavens are higher than the earth,   so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.”   Isaiah 55:9

 

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  1. We all know parents who won’t discipline their children because they “love” them so much and end up with a terror of a teen ager.
    Because they wouldn’t do what they hate to do.
    Disciple their children.
    It’s hard to believe that God chastises us with ailments or tragedy.

    We live in a sinful world, the Garden has been corrupted with weeds, and chaotic bad stuff happens. And to hide His hand that we may demonstrate our faith in Him, He doesn’t intervene immediately every time, becoming a “vending machine”. to those that pray, or “attain” a certain level of faith.

    They say that the years fly by faster as we age, because each year becomes a smaller percentage of our total life span.
    Expanding on that, imagine how short the life we spend on earth compared to the perspective of a God who lives eternal.
    When we gain HIs perspective, the trials of this life shorten.
    Unfortunately, we are stuck with “our” perspective.
    For now.

    Joni has been an example of faith in the face of trial for years.
    She has probably reached more with the message of the gospel than if she had not been paralyzed, and certainly her message has been emphasized by her faith through her trials.

    There’s someone who is a blessing to all those around, like your Mr. Z, who is taken, seemingly too soon.
    How we face death sometimes screams more about our faith in God and set’s a witness that may only be matched by the faith demonstrated in Him by those left behind.

  2. geeez2014 says:

    Oh!~ I have to go and hit a button that deleted all I said..
    I have to go, so quickly, let me ask something that does come up when this discussion arises with friends, etc..

    Ed “does chastising’ (punishing, basically) equal what Joni calls “allowing”…bad things due to bad choices or accident, for example.

    Joni is an amazing example of faith; paralyzed much of her life….breast cancer a few years ago, and now anxiety attacks in that motionless body. I admire her totally. She has become a dear friend of Katherine, the young woman I’ve written about here with HOpe Heals, the story of a 26 yr old beauty who suffered a stroke which she’ll never truly recover from, and who speaks around the country on the power of HOPE in Christ.

  3. Z: “does chastising’ (punishing, basically) equal what Joni calls “allowing”
    I think so, but on the other hand, I don’t think His withholding His protection (allowing a sickness or death) is always a chastisement.
    A chastisement is usually a corrective procedure.
    It’s hard to learn something from a sudden death that you’ll find useful later, huh?

    I’m reminded of the Apostles asking Jesus, “Who sinned, this man or his parents?”.
    Like the bumper sticker says (almost): “stuff happens”.
    How we deal with it is on us.

    A friend of mine spoke this morning. He’s a retired pastor.
    He miraculously overcame Stage 4 Colon Cancer.
    Another beloved pastor in town got the same thing at almost the same time.
    He died and left a widow.
    I doubt he had secret sin, etc., or was any less favored of God.
    But he went well.
    Like that missionary in “Dying Out Loud”, Stan Steward.
    http://agtv.ag.org/chapel_82013

  4. Baysider says:

    The key word here is ‘sometimes.’ God can use anything for His purposes. We know the story of Job. He allowed a lot. Yet we know other stories where he put a hedge around some lone missionary and kept the wild tribe at bay. Your quote from Isaiah hits it exactly – we can’t know what God sees, knows and plans, but only His character, past actions and future promises.

    I just read a book review of Who’s in Mama’s Chair which is a daughter’s book about her mother who had Alzheimer’s. She struggles to love and care for this “stranger” who now sits in her mama’s chair. While it would be hard to say God wanted that, He did use it as a tool to cultivate His likeness in the daughter. Each time a ‘new’ Mama emerged (funny, dependent, sad, restless, anxious, sneaky, vulnerable, fading, and institutional) God challenged the daughter and nurtured her through it.

  5. Mal says:

    More than once I have heard or read where children after they have grown say their parents were strict, and now they are so glad they were. Ed, as to the saying “stuff happens” I saw a bumper sticker that said “Ka-Ka Occurs”. 🙂

  6. Bay: It that “indeterminateness” of God that frustrates our understanding of Him, sometimes isn’t it?
    Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
    Mal: I like that. Next it hits the rotating air movement device.
    We had a family we were friends with when I was a kid.
    The son was adopted, only, and spoiled by the mom with the dad’s not arguing about it.
    The father was like Mr. Rogers, quiet and friendly, an executive.
    When the kid was 17 and incorrigible, the dad got a gun, went to the boy’s room and shot him while he was asleep, then shot himself.
    Perhaps if he had put his foot down earlier….

  7. Mal says:

    Yeah, Ed, like an old tune by Johnny Cash “Where were you when the ship hit the sand?” It was hilarious and he would laugh while singing it.

  8. Mal says:

    I just read about your last comment, Ed. Wow! I can’t imagine someone letting things pent up for that long, then snap. We never know what is going on in people’s minds, do we? “Each head is a world in itself” comes to mind.

  9. geeez2014 says:

    Thanks, all, for your input; If it’s one thing I’m learning from these approximately 3 years of my Sunday Faith Blog, it’s that it’s good to hear input from my terrific commenters and that all of our interpretations are valuable and based on our experience in the Word.
    I appreciate all you all have said. I guess, reading my Isaiah quote again…that’s how I feel.
    God knows. Only God knows. And God will lead us….

  10. cube says:

    I think God gave us free will. We can make the best of our lives or the worst.

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