“Don’t say the NAME!?”


I had a whole different post written for today but I changed my mind last night after I heard, many times, that the NAME of at least one of the shooters in San Bernardino, California was being held back.

His father clearly says he’s a devout Muslim.  Fine.

So, what’s the deal?   Will we never hear a Muslim name again if there is a shooting, or burglary or…whatever?   We’ll hear JOHN SMITH.  We’ll hear HANS SCHULTZ.  We’ll hear Toshi Yamaguchi.  We’ll hear SVEN LARSSON.   As soon as they know, we’ll hear it.  Right?

I am not insensitive to the fact that MUSLIM NAMES are a touchy subject these days and conclusions, right or wrong, can be jumped to because of them, and not good conclusions….one might think that means we actually do have something to be concerned about, no?

The Muslims who killed 14 people yesterday were apparently Americans…….we announce names in America, we don’t protect perps.

Whatever happens, whatever the story;  LET’S TELL THEIR NAMES AS SOON AS WE’D ANNOUNCE ANY OTHER NAME.   Let people jump to conclusions.  Just TELL US.   If someone who knows or lives near someone with that name, maybe they’ll come forward with information, maybe they’ll take better care around that person in case they see him, maybe it could save a LIFE if they let us know names as fast as they do anything but Muslims names?

We deserve to know.  They’re people, not a protected species.  I like to think most Muslims would agree with me on this.

Do you?


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57 Responses to “Don’t say the NAME!?”

  1. jerrydablade says:

    “His father clearly says he’s a devout Muslim.”

    I’d like to think of myself as a devout Catholic, and am fasting during Advent and have increased prayers. I guess we all ‘worship’ in our own way.


  2. This is clearly workplace violence.


  3. bocopro says:

    Muslims tend to agree only with other Muslims of their sect and/or mosque. To agree with anything remotely “American” is against their ideological training, IOW their nature.

    Most Muslims are, to varying degrees, complicit in terrorist acts because privately they’d like to see the corrupt Western “white privilege” civilization demolished.

    One of the most dangerous Muslim sympathizers in the world is Baraq Hussein Soetoro, who will undoubtedly call this simply another episode of “workplace violence” and convolute all logic to declare the IRA primarily responsible.

    When, and it’s only a matter of time now . . . when the 2nd Amendment is finally gutted and both personal firearms and ammo are denied to law-abiding citizens, terrorism will have won. And what’s worst about that scenario, of course, is that the terrorists will still have weapons against which private citizens are defenseless.

    And when the 2nd goes, the 1st is left standing there nekkid and silent, and the left will finally have that total state control it so fervently worships, because the very thing the 2nd was designed to prevent will have become reality.

    A sound investment right now just might be in ammunition manufacture in countries outside the “gun-free” nations, someplace in Asia, Africa, or South America. The day may not be far away when only IRS, EPA, BATF, Political Correctness, and LEO personnel are permitted possession of firearm ammo.


  4. Remember when they got the name of the Aurora shooter and the lib media tagged the wrong guy?
    Tea party sympathies, etc.
    Early names could pose a problem.


  5. -FJ says:

    Absence of a name in a police report now means the same thing as absence of the suspect’s “race”. It’s “confirmation” of the stereotype when the name and/or race is omitted.


  6. Kid says:

    From the Fox News story –

    Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, … “They came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission,” San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said…. Farook, who Burguan said was born in the U.S. and had worked at the San Bernardino County Department of Public Health for five years, was described by co-workers as a “devout” Muslim, who lived in a home in nearby Redlands, which sources described as “an IED factory.” Bomb squads working with robots swept the home late into the night Wednesday, and witnesses reported hearing several explosions. …..Baccari also said that Farook had traveled to Saudi Arabia for about a month this past spring.



  7. Silverfiddle says:

    I’d guess Farook’s new wife radicalized him.

    Preliminary reports said three white men. Hmmm…

    To their credit CAIR held a press conference and Farook’s brother-in-law (married to Farook’s sister) came out and expressed shock and sorrow for Farook’s actions. So, in this case Muslims are facing it head on.

    Islam is a religion, and radical jihadism is a subset. It is a positive thing for everyone muslim or no to accept this.

    Muslims in this country seem to track Christians in their devotion, fundamentalism and house of worship attendance:


    Unfortunately our federal government does not know how to sort the crazies from the good ones.


  8. geeez2014 says:

    Silverfiddle, you’re so right. If Hannity would have shut up for three minutes during his “interview” with Zuhdi Jasser, we’d have heard something so important; He started with how his fellow muslims need to wake up and stand tall against the radicals and mentioned REFORM… I wanted to hear more and he started to, but Hannity jumped in and asked a 3 minute leading question which gave Jasser no time left. So, even when we CAN hear truth from a guy who’s been speaking against radicals since Mr Z and I heard him in person at a meeting about 12 years ago, we don’t give him a chance….

    Not giving names is insane………any American could have a wrong name given and repercussions, too…why not spare them?

    Jerry..apparently, their idea of worship is shooting people up.


  9. geeez2014 says:

    SF…thanks for the link. It’s important for Americans to understand that muslims here are not all rabid crazies ..as Jasser would have shown had Hannity permitted. Zuhdi Jasser, heart surgeon, retired navy doctor, and father, is as against Sharia law in America as WE are. And he’d never wish death on anybody.


  10. Lisa says:

    the left wingers are already accusing conservatives of not mentioning the name of the Planned Parenthood shooter and that he is a Christian. What they fail to realize is that Christians don’t murder people.
    Plus we don’t need to be shouting it from the rooftops,that is their job.
    Did you hear one of his neighbors was suspicious of them but didn’t report them for fear of being called a bigot?
    This is the narrative the left wing media has created.
    I am just waiting to hear Obama say some not so nice things done by Muslims,or workplace violence Iike Fort Hood,another preventable situation that nobody wanted to address the extremism there.


  11. geeez2014 says:

    Lisa…when did his name not get mentioned? And it’s odd the Lefties would even think of this had they not been reading GeeeZ; odd. They’re like moths to the light 🙂
    My point is about how FOX originally mentioned Syed’s name, then didn’t for a couple of hours….they KNEW, everyone knew….but they kept it silent.
    Dear’s name was out as soon as they’d confirmed it.

    The neighbor was afraid of being considered a bigot; yes, the left’s narrative has succeeded in keeping us unsafe; Remember, school teachers, too, are now hesitant to say anything if they see something because of the Clock Kid.

    Another point is our news giving all the details about lots of deliveries, working through the night; ALERT TO JIHADISTS: spread your package delivery locations around all of y our houses so nobody’s alerted, and don’t work at night too often. This is one of the problems of 24/7 news….we don’t need some information …not information that facilitates future terror by changing tactics because of their knowing what we know.


  12. Silverfiddle says:

    Z: I gave up on the talk show shouters years ago. It’s entertainment, not education.


  13. Political correctness killed 14 people yesterday.

    Meanwhile, the media’s narrative — and the Dems candidates’ narrative — is “mass shooting” and “more gun control.”

    As if more gun control will stop jihadists. Sheesh.


  14. BTW, of all the FNC folks whom I personally saw on air last night, Sean Hannity was the only one to speak the name and to call the San Bernardino what it was : Islamic terrorism and jihad.


  15. Z,
    See something, say something, get sued — I put that in my blog post today, too.

    It is what it is.

    And, yes, I do believe that Islam — specifically, the Quran — is the problem.


  16. Mustang says:
    So, in this case Muslims are facing it head on.

    Perhaps. I have no confidence in CAIR, particularly in light of their involvement in terrorist activities in the past. My guess is that CAIR was getting out in front of this story and I am amazed that they could pull this off so quickly. It was almost as if they were “set to go” before the shooting actually occurred. Moreover, I can’t imagine that the FBI was pleased to see the brother in law before the camera and microphone before they had a chance to interview him. I will be interested in learning whether the brother in law is implicated from computer sourced materials.

    The problem, by the way, isn’t about guns; the problem is Islam. I think 1,400 years of barbarous behavior should be enough for a rational person to form that conclusion, and yet some remain unconvinced. There is no such thing as Islamophobia because there is no “unreasonable fear” of Islam. It’s all legitimate.


  17. Silverfiddle says:

    I’m not defending CAIR, just adding to the conversation.

    While pointing out the evidence that most Muslims in this country are no more ‘religious’ than Christians (I was at a party last weekend drinking beer with a Muslim) and no more a danger, I agree that there are segments who purposely start trouble and do things to provoke responses from people so they can dogpile and condemn then, all with the goal of shaming people into shutting up and not saying anything, like that neighbor who saw the muslim men but didn’t report it.


  18. bocopro says:

    Those who believe Islam to be a “religion of peace” once they’ve been made aware of its history fall into the same category with adults who believe in the Easter Bunny, the Great Pumpkin, Papal infallibility, unicorns, and government beneficence.


  19. Kid says:

    moslems are allowed to do anything when they’re on a mission.

    According to US investigators, five of the hijackers including Atta, Al-Shehhi, Nawaq Alhamzi, Ziad Jarrah, and Hani Hanjour visited Las Vegas at least six times between May and August 2001. The San Francisco Chronicle reports that here, they “engaged in some decidedly un-Islamic sampling of prohibited pleasures in America’s reputed capital of moral corrosion,” including drinking alcohol, gambling, and visiting strip-clubs. As the South Florida Sun Sentinel observed, the hijackers’ frequent debauchery was at odds with the most basic tenets of Islam:
    “Three guys cavorting with lap dancers at the Pink Pony Nude Theater. Two others knocking back glasses of Stolichnaya and rum and Coke at a fish joint in Hollywood the weekend before committing suicide and mass murder. That might describe the behavior of several men who are suspects in Tuesday’s terrorist attack, but it is not a picture of devout Muslims, experts say. Let alone that of religious zealots in their final days on Earth”.
    Page 226 The War On Truth
    Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed


  20. Mustang says:
    If only ten percent of the world’s Mohammedan population are radical extremists, then we have to watch our backs around 160 million Mohammedans world-wide. The issue then becomes one of trust. I have none, particularly in light of the fact that Islamic teaching allows (encourages) the faithful to deceive the kefir. Jasser therefore has two very daunting tasks: first, convince Mohammedans to take control of their own religion: do it harshly, and do it visibly. Second, convince non-Mohammedans that we can trust them as fellow citizens. The burden for this falls to the Mohammedan community, not the rest of us.


  21. Mal says:

    NOW are the Tea Party folks STILL RADICALS, CRAZIES, KOOKS, ETC? Perhaps people will start listening to them and their warnings.


  22. Imp says:

    Nearly 2,500 years ago, Aristotle observed one of the flaws of democracy, “Democracy arose from men thinking that if they were equal in one respect, they were equal all respects.” The arrogance of modern Progressive ideology has triumphed over the priceless wisdom of historical reality. We shall live to see the error of our ways.


  23. John M. Berger says:

    I’ve said it over and over; while most Muslims will not, overtly, commit violence the problem is nobody can predict if and when some of the seemingly mild mannered ones will. They are stealthy and spooky and YES, I’m “painting with a broad brush”! Further, I’m incredulous insofar as any contrition, expressed by their families or any others of their atrocious ilk, is concerned. I use to be quite naïve to these facts, but no longer. One that I knew [turned] and it was almost like a zombie experience. Look for more and more of this as time goes on.


  24. Silverfiddle says:

    So, is Zudhi Jasser one of Mohammad’s secret agents? Is he to not be trusted?


  25. Imp says:

    Fifteen pipe bombs and thousands of rounds of ammunition were recovered by authorities investigating the husband and wife team who stormed a workplace holiday party in a San Bernardino and opened fire, killing 14 people and injuring 21, officials said Thursday.

    Yup….spontaneous, unplanned “work place violence”….yup..the poor young unappreciated disrespected mooselems. We just need to reach out more, right? Until we find those…”good” ones. They’ll have to come out of hiding first.


  26. Kid says:

    IMP, Lots of IED’s in the house too. The dude was probably over in S.Arabia for training.

    Anyway, the way I look at it, if there are 100 M&M’s in a bowl and 10 of them are cyanide, I’m not going to try any of them.


  27. cube says:

    The media plays us when it’s a moslem perp in the same way when it’s a black perp. I think they assume there are more stoopids out there than there really are. There are already plenty of moslem terrorists in America, and letting in more and saying that only a tiny minority might be terrorists, is like my saying I’m only going to pee in your coffee a little bit. Drink up.


  28. Bob says:

    I agree pretty much with Silverfiddle. I thought the family did the right thing, coming out before the world realized that it was Islamic terrorism, to express their sorrow. Maybe it was just a calculated move, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt right now.


  29. John M. Berger says:

    “So, is Zudhi Jasser one of Mohammad’s secret agents? Is he to not be trusted?”

    I don’t know, do you?


  30. Mal says:

    John, I’m with you about the seemingly mild mannered Muslims that might turn violent at any time. I also might be “painting with a broad brush” but sometimes that is necessary, in this case possibly for survival.


  31. Imp says:

    It’s abundantly clear that there needs to be significant changes made to our laws regarding the manufacture, sale and use of pipe in this nation.

    I propose, in order to stem any future outbreak of Islamic terrorism workplace violence by white, Republican, home-schooled, Christian, employed, taxpaying, American born terrorists that all Schedule 40 pipe be registered and a full and complete FBI background check be performed and passed before a 10 working day “cooling off” period before the transfer of ANY pipe or fittings to the ignorant, general public.

    Schedule 80 pipe along with all fittings that meet those specifications should be immediately redefined to be controlled by Title II of the National Firearms Act of 1934 and will heretofore require fingerprints, FBI background check, sign off of the chief law enforcement officer of the purchaser’s county of residence and the purchase of a $200 tax stamp per 10′ stick of pipe or part thereof. This will include all fittings as well. BATFE Form 4473 (5300.9) and Form 4 (5320.4) will also need to be modified to accommodate these new requirements.

    That should put a stop to all terrorist “workplace violence” in no time


  32. Silverfiddle says:


    It is just a simple question. Some are casting doubt upon all Muslims and shadowing them with suspicion, as if they are all in on some giant conspiracy. Some of these same people also cite Muslims like Jasser.

    Here is where I stand:
    * Islam is a religion that, like any religion, is abused by some for ideological purposes
    * Only a very small percentage of Muslims take violent or subversive action, and here in the US its an even smaller percentage.
    * A certain percentage of non-violent Muslims do countenance violence even though they do not engage in it themselves
    * A very small percentage of peaceful Muslims can be lured to engage in jihad.
    * Past events have revealed that some Muslims with bad intent lie and engage in behavior of non-believers to avoid suspicion while they lurk and plot.

    Experience tells us the last two categories are less than 1% for Western Muslims.


  33. Mustang says:
    Dr. Jasser served our country as a Naval officer. I wish I could say that was good enough, but it isn’t. Let us recall Major Nidal Hasan, U. S. Army; Sergeant Hasan Akbar (a.k.a Mark Fidel Kools), U. S. Army; PFC Nasar Jason Abdo, U. S. Army; Navy reservist Semi Osman, linked to a terrorist training camp in Oregon; Jeffrey Leon Battle was an Army reservist who pled guilty to conspiring to levy war against the United States; Seaman Hassan Abu-Jihaad was convicted of espionage and providing material support to terrorism while serving aboard the USS Benfold, and for sharing classified information with al-Qaeda agents (which given Hillary Clinton’s behavior may no longer be against the law). In 2009, five US soldiers were murdered by their supply NCO, a Moslem. In 2008, two more soldiers were “fragged” by a so-called Moslem-American. Former US soldier Ali Mohamed pled guilty to conspiring to attack “western targets” in the Middle East and subsequently admitted to having a role in the 1998 embassy bombings.

    To SF’s point, I certainly can agree that not every Mohammedan is an assassin. My point is: who can you trust? That smiling fellow you had a beer with might just as easily smile at you while he cuts your throat, or those of your loved ones … because Allah commands it. Trust is the problem.


  34. Imp says:

    “Experience tells us the last two categories are less than 1% for Western Muslims.”

    How you derive that figure is a mystery. However…of the 3 million + here….that’s no less than 30,000+ potential assassins. The FBI knows there are over 1250 active ISIS in the country, as well as 80 mosques that preach hate and jihad. Why they don’t shut them done is PC insanity. Even the French have closed 4 mosques in Paris / France already. If King Hussein wants to be more like Europe…than he should follow their lead in that respect. And bomb the ever loving life out of them and to hell with “collateral” damage. They have no such reservations about our civilians or innocents, do that?

    BTW..I read recently that 23% of mooslems in this country back and support sharia law. For me…that’s enough to deport or arrest 25% of them. Along with their friends in CAIR.


  35. Imp says:

    * do they?


  36. John M. Berger says:

    “To SF’s point, I certainly can agree that not every Mohammedan is an assassin. My point is: who can you trust? That smiling fellow you had a beer with might just as easily smile at you while he cuts your throat, or those of your loved ones … because Allah commands it. Trust is the problem.”

    Hey, that’s my point, as well. How in the #e!! do you know when and which one(s) is next. The answer is a resounding YOU DON’T! Trust these bastards at your own risk but not at mine!


  37. Silverfiddle says:

    How I derive the figure is not a mystery. I get it from the same sources you do, of how many people have committed jihad, how many on watch lists, etc.

    So, based on what we know, how do we proceed?


  38. geeez2014 says:

    SF…I am still very interested in hearing the discussions and the only reason I watched Hannity those short minutes was because I saw Jasser on….would that he’d have let him TALK.

    And yes, apparently there are people who really do think Jasser is a secret agent. I’m totally on your side on this and am probably going to stop discussing anything islam anymore, sadly.
    Until we do start listening to people like him (and there are others), we’ll never get this settled..ever.

    I’m sorry anybody’d ever think even one of us here actually thinks CAIR isn’t a filthy bunch of lying radical islamists…they’re SCUM.

    AGAIN: Believing that there are muslims in this country who don’t want us dead and don’t like sharia law does not mean we support CAIR, are not TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY aware of muslim threats or even want ONE MUSLIM in this country.
    I think that sometimes gets forgotten…or something

    “How do we proceed?” here we go again.


  39. geeez2014 says:

    is anybody able to get into Silverfiddle’s blog comments? I almost couldn’t yesterday and now there isn’t any COMMENT Availabilitiy….for me. Anybody getting in?


  40. geeez2014 says:

    OOps! If I click ON THE TITLE, then I see it…and only then, SF…just sayin’


  41. Mustang says:
    The question “How do we proceed” suggests that “we” are part of the problem. Frankly, I’m not willing to admit having participated in Islamic mayhem around the world or here at home. The Islamic community can proceed when “they” confront radicalism within their own communities. If the Islamic community in San Bernardino has been doing that, they missed a few radicals and the result is 14 dead innocents. For me personally, I need to see some evidence that the Islamic community (the good guys) is actually doing that. No, not mouthing platitudes … actually doing something. You know: hear something, see something, and say something. Did a US citizen traveling to Saudi Arabia not register alarm bells with anyone in the family? How about marrying an on-line bride? How did so much explosive materials inside the house not peak the curiosity of Grandma?


  42. Silverfiddle says:

    Z: The ways of Blooger are a mystery…


  43. Silverfiddle says:

    Mustang. Agreed. I say we, because we all live here.


  44. John M. Berger says:

    OK,OK, I just put my PC hat on and WOW what an epiphany. I now understand, full well, that should problems with the [bad] Muslims escalate we can count on the [good] Muslims to jump right in on our side! Why Oh Why, didn’t I see this before?


  45. Baysider says:

    “It’s “confirmation” of the stereotype when the name and/or race is omitted.” Yes, FJ – great point!

    Some of these murderers WANT the fame. Some make that clear. I believe the killer in Oregon was one. In that case I would make a point to never repeat the name. Otherwise … Z is as right a usual.

    I’m already reading stories about his terrible family life as a child – positioning for sympathy. Well, if it had ONLY been him, there might be a case. But a couple? Uh-uh.


  46. Mustang says:
    Very true, SF … we all live here. But if somebody thinks that any Christian, Jew, Buddhist, or Hindu will be able reach inside an Islamic society to offer course corrections, that person is utterly delusional. This is why I argue that Islamic communities must themselves demand an end to radical dogma, and follow that up by reporting radical wannabes to local and federal authorities.


  47. Silverfiddle says:


    Yes, it is up to the Umma to sort out their own hash. No one else can do it. What we can do is demand certain things from our government. I also believe that treating all Muslims as terrorists sets up a bad dynamic that works against effecting change in this country.

    Having said that, I also believe we need to ridicule those who spout the PC approved phrases from the little green book and shout “Racism!” and “Islamophobia!” any time anyone raised a criticism. We need to have a frank, adult conversation about what is going on in our nation, and as such we need to ignore the Newspeak language shrinkers and speak frankly but also be mindful of the feelings of others. There is a right way and a wrong way to approach things.


  48. Mal says:

    I still believe we can’t take a chance with the “good” Muslims because the fact they admit to being one is in itself the problem. Doesn’t the Koran tell them to kill all those who don’t believe as they do? By not doing so they are in violation of their belief, right? Then I think I like a BAD Muslim better than a GOOD one! 😉


  49. Z: In the post, you asked about their names.
    Rizwan Farook, Tashfeen Malik
    Maybe their names mean Global Warming and Climate Change in Arabic.
    That would explain things.


  50. Kid says:

    I certainly agree with Mustang that the moslems can out their own a lot easier than can the US intelligence or especially local authorities. Ahmed tells the FBI hotline, Hey, come take a look at farook, he be acting very hinky.

    As far as what we can do – start survelling anyone travelling between here and the ME for sure.
    Oh, and don’t blindly bring in Thousands of Middle East “refugees” because the FBI has already told you they can have no idea whether ahmed is a good ahmed or an ISIS achmed.

    Bottom line we need to go beyond this idiotic PC non-racial profiling mindset we have. Even France has closed some mosques. Our freedoms if we extend them to potential suicide murderers will be our undoing regardless of any number of peaceful moslems running around.
    They are inconsequential to the situation unless they start turning in their radicals.
    But they won’t, so this will probably go like the AMerican Indian situation went. A small number of AMericans were terrorists. As the new Americans fought them, many of the peaceful Indians got mad and joined the fight and the result being that the vast majority of indians were slaughtered.

    You can’t afford bararians (moslems) the same freedoms as the rest of us or it’s over. Simple as that. They will terrorize innocents, destroy the economy, breed us out and take over.


  51. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang: Absolutely right “This is why I argue that Islamic communities must themselves demand an end to radical dogma, and follow that up by reporting radical wannabes to local and federal authorities.:

    That’s why I so badly wanted to hear Jasser speak on TV…but Hannity was too busy being impressed by what HE was saying, as usual 😦

    FJ and Baysider …YES YES YES! ““It’s “confirmation” of the stereotype when the name and/or race is omitted.”” Baysider’s comment made me remember that I had that in my post and deleted it, thinking people wouldn’t get what I meant…but THAT IS TRUE, so thanks, FJ…I DO think it’s confirmation…perfectly said.

    Ed..good one!

    Kid, we HAVE to do whatever Israel’s doing, and has been doing….but we won’t.

    SF…we do need a really open and frank discussion;

    Kid, they had darned well BETTER….

    I believe a discussion on television would be a good start…an open panel discussion on all channels, Christians, Jews, Muslims….like a press conference.

    Here’s how the head of the panel begins the discussion: It’s no secret who’s causing death and mayhem in this country, and it’s about time muslims start speaking out against it and DO SOMETHING. We don’t need CAIR hauling a family out in front of cameras who “don’t know” that their cousin was very religious …how could you NOT KNOW THAT? So they’re lying. The lies have to STOP…and there will be draconian steps taken to muslims…ALL muslims…until this STOPS. We also know it’s acceptable to LIE for Mohammed. But it’s not acceptable to anybody but Muslims, so that is going to stop, too.
    We need muslims to come up with a plan; we need Imams to go back if they feel this country doesn’t suit them as it is. ANY mosque with the slightest HINT of radicalism is CLOSED FOREVER. PERIOD. The building will be flattened and the land sold to profit the city.
    Americans don’t think it’s asking too much to tell ALL MUSLIMS that if they’re remotely connected to anything remotely radical, they and their families will be flown home, passports revoked, never to return again. Period. We won’t even entertain questions or phone calls from lawyers or CAIR.

    CAIR is now CLOSED for good. How’s them apples? CAIR is closed. If any CAIR administrator isn’t happy about that, he or she can be also flown back as our guest never to return again.

    Or WE will suffer greatly, and THAT is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.


    How’d I DO?


  52. geeez2014 says:

    By the way, did you all know that they were very lucky to have that equipment in their police department? And that they’d trained on it THAT VERY MORNING of the killings? I find that fascinating…kind of amazing.


  53. geeez2014 says:

    And did you hear/see that camera video a hostage took of the policeman leading them to safety, telling them not to worry, that he’d take the bullets for them? SO touching.


  54. Kid says:

    I like your p[lan Z. But it’s not going to hapen unless our group takes over the US government.


  55. cube says:

    My husband was on Facebook during the aftermath of the San Bernardino shootings. Some of his friends were monitoring police scanners and posted the name Syed Farook long before it was announced on O’Reilly’s show.


  56. geeez2014 says:

    cube…that REALLY ticked me off about O’Reilly because FOX mentioned the name earlier than his show, too…absolutely did. Good to know about your husband’s info.
    O’Reilly is SUCH a blow hard conceit.


  57. Mal says:

    Z, “How’d I DO?” YA DID GOOD, GIRL! 😉


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