Trump by Gingrich…..

Understanding Donald Trump   The Washington Times  (z; definitely worth the read)

January 8, 2016 by
Newt Gingrich

Donald Trump is a genuine phenomenon.  He may or may not become the
Republican nominee for president.  He may or may not win the
presidency even if he becomes the nominee.  Yet it is clear that he is
a phenomenon and that any history of the 2016 presidential race will
have to spend a good bit of time analyzing Trump and his impact.

From the time he announced on June 16, Trump has dominated social and
mainstream media.   He dominates the conversation despite the lack of
paid advertising.  Trump says outrageous things and his supporters
shrug it off. At every turn, his poll numbers continue to rise.

As a step toward understanding this amazing performance, I spent part
of the Christmas break reading his first bestseller, ‘The Art of the
Deal’.  Written in 1987, this book is a classic among American
business books and has influenced a generation of entrepreneurs.
Trump wrote ‘The Art of the Deal’ when he was 41 years old and having
a successful run.   The book’s popularity contributed to Time
Magazine’s decision to feature Donald Trump on its cover in January

The portrait that emerges from this easy-to-read and remarkably
interesting book is of an aggressive, ambitious person who is
constantly pushing, constantly learning, and always seeking the next
challenge.  Reporters and analysts who are trying to understand Trump
would be well served by slowing down and reading this nearly
three-decade-old bestseller.

They would discover that Donald Trump has developed a remarkable set
of rules and principles that allow him to make decisions with
incredible speed.  Trump knows a lot, but what is amazing is how
rapidly he figures out what he doesn’t know.

My favorite story is of the Wollman Skating Rink in New York’s Central Park.
The Wollman Rink was a heavily used public skating rink which had
fallen into disrepair in 1980.  New York City tried for six years to
fix it, spent $13 million, and the rink still was not ready to open.
In June of 1986 Trump, who could see the rink from his apartment,
finally got tired of the embarrassment and offered to fix the rink at
his own expense.  At first the city turned him down because its
bureaucracy did not want to be embarrassed by someone fixing something
they couldn’t fix. Trump kept pushing and finally out of embarrassment
the city gave in.

The key part of the story is Trump’s reaction to being put in charge.
He promptly recognized that he didn’t know anything about fixing a
skating rink. He asked himself who built a lot of skating rinks.
“Canadians!” he concluded. He found the best Canadian ice skating rink
construction company.  When the Canadians flew in to assess the
situation, they were amazed at how bad the city had been at solving
the problem. They assured Trump that this was an easy job.  Trump
fixed the six year embarrassment two months ahead of schedule and
nearly $800,000 under-budget. (The city did end up paying for the
work, and Trump donated the profits to charity.)

After reading this chapter you begin to think that maybe Donald Trump
really could build a wall along our southern border for a lot less
than our current government estimates.

‘The Art of the Deal’ is filled with stories like this — stories of
common sense, stories of calculated risk taking, and stories of
innovation and marketing.  Anyone who would like to better understand Donald Trump would be helped by reading this remarkable book.

Another is his pledges and I have no way of knowing if he will make
good on all of them but I do agree with all of them.  Trump is the
only candidate that is serious about building The Wall” ! Two other
important pledges Trump has made that no other candidate of either
party has matched! First deportation of millions of illegals that are
demanding and costing American taxpayers billions of dollars and
second, closing 34 Muslim training camps throughout our country!   I

Here is another that kind of wraps up my feelings about Trump;
Raccoon’s in your basement!    An interesting analogy.
You’ve been on vacation for two weeks.  You come home, and your
basement is infested with raccoon’s.   Hundreds of rabid, messy, mean
raccoon’s have overtaken your basement. You want them gone immediately
so you hire a guy. A pro.   You don’t care if the guy smells, you need
those raccoon’s gone pronto and he’s the guy to do it!  You don’t care
if the guy swears, you don’t care if he’s an alcoholic, you don’t care
how many times he’s been married, you don’t care if he voted for
Obama, you don’t care if he has plumber’s crack…you simply want
those raccoon’s gone!

You want your problem fixed!  He’s the guy.  He’s the best.  Period.
That’s why Trump!  Yes he’s a bit of an ass, yes he’s an egomaniac,
but you don’t care.
The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republican Party
is two-faced & gutless, illegal’s are everywhere.   You want it all
fixed! You don’t care that Trump is crude, you don’t care that he
insults people, you don’t care that he had been friendly with Hillary,
you don’t care that he has changed positions, you don’t care that he’s
been married 3 times, you don’t care that he fights with Megyn Kelly
and Rosie O’Donnell,  you don’t care that he doesn’t know the name of
some Muslin terrorist,…this country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies
are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegal’s, we are
becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo and Hamad is a
special interest group with special rights to a point where we don’t even recognize the country we were born and raised in; “AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED” and Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

You’re sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, Republican
Party, and sick of illegal’s.   You just want this thing fixed.  Trump
may not be a saint, but doesn’t have any lobbyist money influencing
him.  He doesn’t have political correctness restraining him.  All you
know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has
built a lot of things, and he’s also not a politician, so he’s not a
cowardly politician.  And he says he’ll fix it. You don’t care if the
guy has bad hair. You just want those raccoon’s gone;  out of your
house!  -end of article

Z:   First, for the record;  there is no way millions of illegals are going to be deported, Trump or no Trump;  in a few years, I hope I’ve been proven wrong, trust me, but it ain’t happenin’.

I’m not sure I agree with some of the above article but I do grasp anything I can grasp which makes me feel better that this blowhard, repulsive, nasty man might be our president.  And this article helps.   I think.


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62 Responses to Trump by Gingrich…..

  1. Love the racoon analogy!

    Just recently, I’ve been having trouble with squirrels in the basement here. Screaming, destroying stuff, peeing all over the place.

    So, I didn’t care about certain flaws of the people from Animal Control and pest control. The goal was to get my basement back so that I could do my laundry in peace.


  2. I heard this morning that Trump won every county in every state in last yesterday’s primaries. Did he really?


  3. Apparently, Karl Rove was surprised by the margin of victory for Trump in yesterday’s primaries.

    He shouldn’t be surprised.

    On October 12, 2015, I sat down face to face with one of his best friends for 2.5 hours to try to explain the level of anger at the street level. Anger directed at the GOP for breaking promises and running RINO’s. The fellow with whom I spoke was cordial enough, but he kept saying, “We must remain tethered to reality.”

    No matter what I said, I was basically told, “You don’t know what you’re talking about.”

    It’s the management of the GOP not tethered to reality.

    I requested to meet with Karl Rove. No go, of course. I’m one of the peasants beyond the moat.

    Hey, Karl! Can you hear me now?


  4. BTW, at the end of the meeting, the fellow said to me, “What are you going to do with this information?”

    My reply: “Nothing.” [pause] “Yet.”

    Full disclosure: I’m not in the tank for Trump. I see his flaws. He has many.

    But the reality I perceive is this: because the GOP’s management wouldn’t heed the warning signs, the GOP’s management has blown the matter of outflanking Donald Trump — at this point, anyway.


  5. When the raccoon’s are gone, so is the pest control guy.
    Trump will be hanging around finding “other” stuff to do, like a bored child.
    That always works out well….


  6. bocopro says:

    Newt makes some good points, and so does Ed (above). I look at it this way: for decades we’ve heard politicians say that they’re going to move the country forward, reduce spending, improve education, strengthen the military, fix the IRS, fix immigration, fix the drug problem, stop the rise of sea level, teach us to ride unicorns and feed on pixie dust, and on and on and on.

    And it never seems to get done, and the debt keeps self-feeding, and more kids are dropping out of school and more babies are having babies, and our military is headed toward pre-WWII levels, and drug use is on the rise, and on and on and on.

    O.K. So Trump is an egomaniac with virtually no experience in government, foreign relations, national security, and such. But it just seems crazy to hire another temp CEO from the establishment pool and expect different results . . . don’t it?

    We actually WANT some energy, some fire, some chutzpah in our leaders. We don’t need another Jimmah, or another Slick, or another Tricky Dick. We need someone with fresh ideas who can figure out how to motivate Congress to do the jobs they’re paid to with their hands in FRONT, not behind their backs with the palms up.

    As Fiorina was the first to say, Trump has tapped into the growing voter anger resulting from a sense of betrayal by the people they send to Washington to represent them. They want some simple, direct, common-sense solutions to sanctuary cities, border infiltration, drug smuggling, trade deficits, etc., etc., etc.

    So maybe he’s NOT a true conservative, and maybe he DOESN’T have a good grip on some of the most serious problems. But he has the drive to get things done, and sometimes it’s best to just pull the band-aid off all at once, get on with the crying and puking, and get back to work.

    The thing about Trump is that he never got out of the King-Of-The-Hill phase. He wants to be the big cheese, the main man, the Kahuna of kahunas. Yes, of course it’s a vanity thing, and yes, the Trump University thing is gonna bite him in the butt.

    But, we can’t just keep on keepin on with entrenched politicians feeding us hot air while lining their pockets. As Hamlet says, “You cannot feed capons so,” so it’s time to stand up and rattle the cage before our transformation to capons is complete. There’s still time for the 2nd American Revolution to be won by ballots instead of bullets.

    What we have now is a great experiment designed by well-read ethical geniuses and being run by greedy good ol’ boy clones. It’s time we took the last exit off the circular Highway to More Of The Same and brought in a professional ringmaster to herd the cats.


  7. bunkerville says:

    Nothing to lose at this point. I’m in.


  8. Yes, there is something to lose,
    Lose the fidelity to the Constitution that we need to protect our liberties.
    Trump is a shortcut. A horrible shortcut.
    In the short term it may seem to work.
    In the long run, we’ll probably end up paying for it with our liberty, our rights.
    Trump is not the only solution, but he may be the only choice we have in November.
    God save the Republic.


  9. FB says:

    In 2008 I told my wife that America, because of his sluggish economy that is meant to last because of constant deficits and money printing will turn to nationalism. Trump is the first step towards that. Things could get worse if politicians don’t fix problems. It’ll be even greater (nastier?) nationalism or it’ll be serious socialism.

    I was reading yesterday that corporate loan defaults in Q1 are the 5th highest in history. ( This country has a huge amount of gov and private debt and we’re not heading in the right direction.

    I don’t know who can fix it and deep down I have low expectations because the situation is really bad and may not be solvable in 4 or 8 years.


  10. Kid says:

    Trump says he is big on the 2nd amendment. If that gets us to at least a solid 5 Americans vs 4 commies on the supreme court, then fine by me.

    I don’t know if Trump would deport 10 million mexicans and whatever number of moslems who are here on illegally and welfare but I do think he would at least deport any illegal guilty of a crime. obama kicks them out of jail and puts them back on the street. That wouldn’t change with clinton. Plus clinton would communize the SC. It is over at that point. No way to recover.

    So, for now, I agree 100% with the above article. I don’t care about any of the Trump stuff that other’s seem to. From the point of view of geeking up the libtards, it’s actually a plus.


  11. Trump has more votes today than Romney got in the entire 2012 primary. He’s on track to becoming the most popular Republican primary candidate EVER! No wonder the RNC hates him. He’s proven that Money can only buy so many votes…

    Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals”

    * RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)


  12. geeez2014 says:

    Ed, I think a president doesn’t run out of “other stuff to do” too often….

    AOW….great stuff…Karl Rove is clearly NOT HAPPY. What makes me laugh is Gingrich, since I’ve always thought of him as ESTABLISHMENT and now he seems in it for Trump, or maybe just the ugly inevitable?

    bocopro; good try, excellent try, but the man is a BOOR. I start to MAYBE consider actually liking him or taking the clothes pin off my nose when I’ll have to vote for him,, at least, and then he says something as childish and UGLY as how DISGUSTING it is how Kasich eats pancakes…and never quits “So disgusting!” What kind of man…………WHAT kind of human being …? I know children who’d never do that. I shudder.

    Bunkerville..we have to be, don’t we. Not another choice.

    Kid…and you punctuate like Gingrich, too (smile!) I am hanging tight to my total dismay at this boor who’s Trump; blustering, egomaniacal, insulting, childish jerk. But I will have to vote for him. Then cry hard.
    He’s making some political platform speech in thirty minutes. Oh, brother…

    FB….we’re definitely IN BIG FINANCIAL TROUBLE, no doubt about that. And we are SO SO GREEDY that every time there’s an excellent article on that and what we should do to protect ourselves, the video doesn’t help, it only sells a book. If things are THAT BAD as some of these people say, you’d think they might give the information away? Disgusting.

    Vrag, the problem is he’s popular with a certain number in his base and that’s IT. Yes, some Democrats are saying they’ll vote for him, too, and I know a lot of us can’t stand him but WILL vote for him, but he needs to win over the minority and vote and women to win.

    Oh, God, keep us from a Hillary administration…Oh, God, PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE.


  13. Want to see something extraordinary? Trump is spending peanuts per vote in comparison to everyone else in the race.


  14. @Z – His “base” is obviously bigger than Romney’s ever was.


  15. FB says:

    Z, it’s not a video. IT’s a newsletter with interesting data.


  16. Imp says:

    “There’s still time for the 2nd American Revolution to be won by ballots”…

    I’m more inclined to believe that we’re only two vowels away from that.


  17. geeez2014 says:

    FB, i’m talking about the things I described in my comment…countless scary articles by experts who say they know what we all should do….then don’t unless you buy their book.

    EVERYBODY: Does anybody pronounce Tanzania “TanAAAANia?” I think the pronunciation is TANZANEEEEA” Not for Trump.

    I am listening a bit to the speech right now….are there only 20 people in the audience? The clapping is so tepid I can’t get over it.


  18. Mustang says:

    I just listened to a Trump speech on CNN. For the first time, he is speaking as if he knows what has to be done. He spoke with clarity … finally.


  19. cube says:

    I used to say I’d vote for anyone besides Hillary, but I’ve upped that to I’ll vote for anything besides Hillary. She creeps me out the most.


  20. FB says:

    Oh ok. It’s true that some people make money off of that and may make things look worse. But at least the marketplace brings you information that you would never get otherwise.


  21. cube says:

    Even an ameoba…. ameboic life matters. Go fund my probiotic fund.


  22. Kid says:

    I’m with Cube.


  23. Mal says:

    Yeah, Z, we noticed the sparse applause during Trumps speech this morning, too, and wondered why. The media never showed the crowd (at least during our viewing, anyway). One has to ask why it was broadcast on a weekday morning instead of prime time. Too bad the speech wasn’t made 8 months ago. At least there is still over half a year left before voting which will give him time to gain more votes. Like it or not, we need Trump if we want to get rid of the raccoons!


  24. Kid says:

    Regards Trump’s audience

    “Trump spoke to an invited audience of conservative-leaning national security experts, as well as some prominent foreign policy writers.”


  25. Bob says:

    Ever since Newt Gingrich was our local US Rep, I will drop everything I am doing just to hear the guy talk. Newt is one of the brightest people to ever come along on the political stage. It’s too bad he didn’t survive the political fights. Maybe nobody can.

    I agree with everything Newt said about Trump. His raccoon analogy is a little rough, but does manage to convey the attitude of the America voter. Washington is broken, and we just want to get rid of the pests that currently occupy our White House.

    Z: I disagree strongly with you in this statement: ” First, for the record; there is no way millions of illegals are going to be deported, Trump or no Trump; in a few years, I hope I’ve been proven wrong, trust me, but it ain’t happening’.”

    The short answer is, “never say never”. We don’t need to round up millions of people to ship them off to Mexico. All we have to do is to ask these people to go home, and then enforce the already in place workplace laws, Millions of these illegal aliens will pack their bags, and pay their own way home.

    Oh, have I forgotten the millions of anchor babies? First of all, we don’t have to send legal anchor babies out of the country with their parents. It will be the parents decision as to what to do with the children. Is being bad or unreasonable on my part? Maybe, but everyone of these illegal aliens made the decision to take the risk that they would be allowed to stay.

    Any responsible parent would either find a kins-person keep the kids, or take them home to Mexico, Honduras, or wherever.

    The only rounding up we would have to do is to jail the employers who employ illegals, and cheat them out of wages. These aliens are not stupid. If you remember when the Great Recession recently caused a coupld of million aliens to go back to Mexico. The same thing will happen when we enforce work place laws.

    Things are not complicated, nor are they cruel. These people have chosed to live a risk-based life, and it’s time they understood the consequencies of their choice.

    OTH: I could be talked into some sort of amnesty. Yes, I am a Republican and a conservative, Neither of these positions calls for throwing people out of the country.


  26. Bob says:

    OMG! Cruz has just named Carly Fiorina as his VP running mate. This is a smart thing on Cruz’s part, but it also wrecks Fiorina’s political career (if she ever had any). Ted Cruz still remains an whiny objectionable person. If ever there was a reason to vote AGAINST someone, Ted Cruz’s voice qualifies as a good reason. Whine. Whine. Whine. Even when he wins, he whines.

    A whining winner is the worst.

    As I watch Ted on the tube right now, as he announces his VP choice, I am thinking that a nose -ob would go a long way to making him more palatable. He sounds like he has a deviated septum.


  27. At least he sounds like he has a vocabulary, and doesn’t have to sound out the big words.


  28. FB says:

    Cruz is deluded. He should team up with Bernie. Those guys are clowns at this point.


  29. cube says:

    That’s a smart move on Ted’s part, but an awful move on Carly’s part. I’m not the boss of her so I couldn’t care less one way or the other. Maybe Trump could pick Harriet Tubman’s descendant?


  30. FB says:

    Also I was thinking, when you have no chance of winning and you’re wasting donors’ money, what does that say? That you have little regard for how money is spent when it’s not yours. So to me that means Cruz would not be any different running a government. So is Bernie the Clown.


  31. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang, I am SO GLAD You heard it because your email today about Trump and military…I was heartened today, too, even if he can’t pronounced Tazmania…and I might be wrong about that.
    Just had lunch with a friend and asked her how she pronounced T A Z M A N I A and she said “Why would he mention TAZMANIA?” And I thought “Ya, why DID he!?” 🙂 HA!!
    I truly am highly pleased that you liked today’s speech…gives me hope in Trump if you liked it.

    FB…what information!? All I get is GLOOM AND DOOM and NO solutions unless I PAY! Seriously….it drives me nuts 🙂
    And we might think Cruz is ‘deluded’ but he IS the only true conservative running… unappealing as he is.
    Regarding spending supporters’ money; they’re STILL sending money to Cruz, so who’s stupid? HIM or THEM? (Hint..them)

    Cube and Kid; as I often say “i’d vote for a ham sandwich over Hillary”

    Mal, the cameras pulled back a few times and there looked to be maybe 50 people…2 of which seemed to be applauding according to the noise! Maybe most were media people and we know they don’t clap (particularly for a Republican!)??

    Bob “All we have to do is to ask these people to go home, and then enforce the already in place workplace laws,” OKAY, you’re pulling my leg, right? “Por Favor, VAMOS a su casa” and they’re going to say “OKAY! ADIOS!”
    Bob, we never disagree…wassup!? 🙂
    I DO agree that enforcing the workplace laws might help…particularly if we JAIL EMPLOYERS…HALLELUJAH…wouldn’t that BE GREAT??! AND PERSUASIVE!

    Ed….well said.

    CARLY FIORINA…why do you all think that’s a bad move for HER? She’s LOADED$$$ and doesn’t have to do anything in the future..what future is she wrecking? This might be her only ‘last chance/hurrah!”.
    I think it’s a marvelous choice for Cruz. And her.

    AND I THINK SUSANA MARTINEZ MUST BE PICKED BY TRUMP AS VP….Female, Hispanic, law enforcement family….sharp as a tack. GO, SUSANA!!


  32. geeez2014 says:

    CUBE…You said “….but I’ve upped that to I’ll vote for anything besides Hillary.”
    I’m very glad I wasn’t drinking coffee when I read that…….I’d need a new keyboard! SO GOOD.


  33. Imp says:

    “AND I THINK SUSANA MARTINEZ MUST BE PICKED BY TRUMP AS VP….Female, Hispanic, law enforcement family….sharp as a tack. GO, SUSANA!!”

    Not a chance the La Raza / Univision crowd would go for her or that blatant pandering. She’s not one of them actually. Born in El Paso but legal.


  34. Imp says:

    Trump is our Patton, a swearing, slap them in the face political general who goes through the competition like crap through a goose! I do so love it.


  35. bocopro says:

    Imp: really odd how I write a rant and a day or two later I see a remarkable parallel hereabouts. This is the penultimate paragraph from one I wrote about 3 days ago (the piece is too long to post here en toto):

    I think it’s time for a general, one who can recognize the big picture and isn’t afraid to shoot, or at least fire, bloated toadies and limousine sycophants, a Patton type raised in Missouri or Kentucky or Idaho who’s shot at people and been shot at, a country boy with no connections to politicians or preachers or public figures, an American who has actually saluted the flag and swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic, and actually DID that for most of his adult life.


  36. Imp says:

    Bocopro….going to be tough to find men like that today amongst the dainty, surrender first Republican milquetoasts, who make the bile come up in me to where I am sickened by the abject prostate members of congress who cannot muster the slightest opposition to the wrong direction the nation is headed in. The era of treating the left like civilized people is long past. They live in the gutter and we need a gutter knife fighter to win with.


  37. FB says:

    Being a conservative and being deluded are not mutually exclusive. I think Cruz’s thirst for power makes him deluded. At this point I think he’s too power hungry for me. A Conservative should not be power hungry. The foundation of conservatism is not to trust power.


  38. Imp says:

    FB….his frat boy, college debate team style / delivery gets to me. The 8 second pauses for effect….and he could read a simple Burger King menu and it’d sound like he’s reading the Gettysburg address for gawds sake. Yuck.


  39. FB says:

    Imp, you’re so right. He’s a bit of a pompous ass. With some sleaze factor.


  40. I didn’t hear Trump’s speech today. What did he say?

    Anybody got a link?


  41. Kid says:

    One thing I heard that Trump siad is that he would close 34 terrorist training centers in the US.

    We know there are 34 terorist training centers in the US and they’re still in business ?

    This is where we’re at with this human garbage running government. Yea, bring on the Trump.
    34% of women would not vote for him? I’ll bet 33.9% are voting democrat regardless.

    This is it folks. All the marbles. Step 1 isn’t ever the final solution, it is only step 1. Not that I don’t think anyone here doesn’t understand that.

    And if you’re not sure what I’m saying then I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant….


  42. FB says:

    Nobody talks about terrorist training centers in the US. Where does he get the intel from? Soon we’ll learn that some of our politicians are working the Mexican cartels. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.


  43. Kid says:

    Training Camps Intel – I don’t know. I also don’t know that it’s true, but would not be shocked either. At anything. I do notice no one is coming out and saying he’s nuts about the training centers. Which they would in a heartbeat right?

    I’ve been convinced Politicians have given up on solving anything. They don’t have the intellect for it and the attraction to the alternative to solving things – Stealing Massive Amounts of Money- is too strong for them to remain virtuous if they ever were.

    For now a billionaire is the best idea. Doesn’t need the money and will maybe fix a few things. The best thing he could do is Expose Things to the point the democrats and republicans could no longer say boo. I’d love to see them sitting around naked (figuatively) on the street.

    I think people, when they get a certain level of rich want something more. For the clintons the more is more money and power, For someone like Bill Gates, the more is knowing he did something decent with his riches like having cured Polio before taking the big ride. I don’t know which one of these Trump would emulate, but a standard issue politician with only a few million stashed away will not break the mold of taking the candy and kicking the can down the road.

    I’m not selling anything here. Just some thoughts. Good luck to us.


  44. Kid says:

    PS, I’ve been convinced a long while that the Feds bring the hard drugs in.


  45. FB says:

    It’s funny nobody is talking about the Panama papers in the US very much by the way.


  46. Kid says:

    I noticed that too. I’d love to see that jar broken open.


  47. FB says:

    Some French politicians are getting the heat and Vals’s wife is too for other criminal activities it looks like. Oh boy I’d give a lot of money to see all these phony aristocratic politicians put behind bars. (But deep down I want the guillotine back :D)


  48. Kid says:

    Oh yea…, Chirac, Kofi Anon were as dirty as they come. Now Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, all the other current players. I really am convinced it is all a brass ring game and that’s it. Get elected, get rich, party on, and then party on afterwards for the duration. I don’t know that it’s ever been any different actually.

    Which makes me chuckle when peole look to have government ‘do something for them’. I’m even susceptible, but all I really want/would accept is for the beast to be put back in her box for at least another 4 years.


  49. Kid says:

    It is the people who will have to bring the guillotine back. How bad will it need to get before that happens. Rhetorical question.


  50. FB says:

    I do believe it’s become the Rich Club with the central bank system to make sure their financial assets are being stabilized. The Founding Fathers must roll in their graves.


  51. Kid says:

    Agree 100%


  52. geeez2014 says:

    Imp..what pandering? She’s smart and deserves the job. Isn’t Cruz ‘pandering’ by picking a woman? When will this thinking stop? And what an insult to Patton…who’d never tell people in public someone else ate “disgusting!”…

    FB …..glad no other candidate “power hungry”..(sarcasm here!) .they all are, in every country…Cruz hasn’t shown it in any way more than others, in my opinion. And believe me, I’m not big fan of Cruz, tho I know he IS the most cons. of them all..and he’s shown it

    ALL: it boils down to what I talked about the other day “TRUST”….if we don’t have that in our gov’t, what chance have we got?
    And we don’t…and probably won’t again.


  53. Bob says:

    Z said: “you’re pulling my leg, right?” Well, no. It is well known that the recent, severe recession caused lots of Mexicans to go home until things got better in the USA. The little secret of asking them to go home is akin to a bouncer asking me to vacate the bar. The request has some muscle behind it.

    The muscle behind asking the illegals to go home is that if they choose to stay, they will have to find a way to finance their illegal living. By punishing the employers severely for cheating on the law, and the wages of the illegals, the message will propagate faster than the speed of light that there is no profit in remaining.

    Of course, there will be many that decide to stick around until the storm blows over, and that’s the time to hire some Greyhound buses. Yep, let’s make it easy for them to leave. No jail for Mexicans headed south. Automatic expulsion for any kind of breaking the law, including speeding and parking tickets. Illegals will be fair game for local, state, and federal law enforcement.

    So, you see there probably won’t be any need for boxcars and prison buses to get rid of the illegals. I realize that this is a proposal, but there is support in principle because of the thousands that self-deported during Obama’s Great Recession. Make no mistake. It’s all about the money.


  54. Kid says:

    Bob, Cut off the free benefits too. HC, school, hell they probably get anything the welfare people get which is everything – phone, computer, apartment, bills paid. Cut that off with 2 or 3 months notice and yes, they will deport themselves.


  55. Imp says:

    Bob….for a worthy effective AG.


  56. geeez2014 says:

    Bob “The muscle behind asking the illegals to go home is that if they choose to stay, they will have to find a way to finance their illegal living. By punishing the employers severely for cheating on the law”…that’s a WHOLE different story.
    Your paragraph about asking them and expecting to leave stunned me but it makes sense WHEN YOU INCLUDE the punishment side of it.
    Well done..xx

    Kid..yes, cut EVERYTHING off…particularly medical care; While I HATE TO SAY THAT, I REALLY do, i can’t TELL you how many people I’m hearing can’t see their doctors because the docs are SO backed up because now the gov’t’s paying for EVERYONE….Of course, then the Left scares us with “You want TB?” Ya, well, TB is ON THE RISE AGAIN after having been dealt with, until the illegals started coming over in droves, so let’s talk GOING HOME, not more medical care.

    Honestly, I know this is an unpopular suggestion, but if they GO HOME, it’d be cheaper to help them out THERE than HERE!! For a while, anyway.
    Let their stinkin’ leaders pay for them once we’ve got them GONE and their gov’t convinced they are NOT COMING BACK HERE…


  57. geeez2014 says:

    never mind..why should WE PAY FOR ANYTHING?


  58. On the healthcare front, we can no longer afford the resources sponged up by unfunded illegal immigrants. From the vast network of dental clinics that are Medicaid mills, to the anchor babies born at our charity hospitals, to the unfunded care given by our E.D. doctors and surgeons across the U.S. – we can no longer afford this. It is at the expense of our own working class poor and elderly. They deserve better. Healthcare comes down to allocation of resources. The same is being siphoned off by illegal immigrants.


  59. geeez2014 says:

    thelastenglishprince; if only the Left would recognize that it’s to the expense of the people they’re supposedly all for (while selling Americans that Republicans are against them!).


  60. Kid says:

    Z, And not just the illegals. How about people like this?

    Very expensive in vitro fertilization, paid for by the state, has 8 kids, all on welfare. How many times does that happen ?


  61. geeez2014 says:

    Ya, I remember her…what a joke…and a very expensive joke to the tax payers. P@($*&@)($*&@#($


  62. Kid says:

    Z, and how many more are out there past, present, and future ?


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