THOUGHTS to ponder…..

HILLARY CLINTON:  “FIGHTING FOR US

DONALD TRUMP:  “MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN”

Most of you know I’m no Trump fan…by a LOOOONG shot…but I realized today, while watching  election coverage, that the two slogans are pretty revealing.     Mrs. Clinton needs to take a page from the JFK book “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”

The selfishness of her slogan is telling, isn’t it…her supporters want their GOODIES!

Then I had to laugh when a Bernie politico-supporter said “We need to bring back DEMOCRACY!”  With an avowed SOCIALIST?  Huh?

Another thing;  LA RAZA translates to THE RACE and has taken on quite a negative connotation because of the uncivil, anti-American actions of La Raza, the group.   So what lawyers would want to name their Lawyers Association La Raza?  in AMERICA?   How about if it was just called the Hispanic Lawyers Association?  Isn’t this rather the same as the Klan Lawyers Association?   Or am I being highly sensitive?

Thoughts on any of the above?

Z

 

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39 Responses to THOUGHTS to ponder…..

  1. bocopro says:

    Most of us studied a nice, tidy little poem by Robert Frost, “Stopping By Woods on Snowy Evening.”
    I taught it to hundreds and hundreds of young adults in my classes. If Frost were alive, I’d apologize profusely for using his magnificent work for political sarcasm, but . . . c’est la vie.

    Whose land this is I think I know.
    He’s old and cannot stop me though.
    He knows that we are sneaking here
    To steal this place for Mexico.

    My children think it’s very queer
    That there’s no border agent near
    Between the lands we leave and take
    Except those fat ones drinking beer.

    We took some money from a sheik
    With Venezuelan papers fake
    To sneak him through in his new Jeep
    So he can work for Islam’s sake.

    The Yanquis like our labor cheap,
    So we come in, our numbers deep
    To take the land they can not keep
    While they just argue, dream, and sleep.

  2. John M. Berger says:

    I’ll endure Trump’s RHETORIC over Shrillary’s RECORD any day-nuff said!

  3. Silverfiddle says:

    Hillary’s slogan should be “Hillary Clinton: Fighting Us”

    It goes well with her “This way to the Hospital” campaign logo…

  4. Sparky says:

    Sometimes I feel like a sane person living in an insane asylum. I’m sure y’all feel the same way. This election cycle is strange, to be sure. I’d rather have Trump’s foul mouth to the HildaBeast’s lies, murders, and race baiting any day. And ‘feel the Bern’ is an avowed communist. He and wife honeymooned at Lenin’s tomb!!! That’s a communist. These people are wicked. I worry about their immortal souls.

  5. Adrienne says:

    How about if it was just called the Hispanic Lawyers Association?

    Bingo.

  6. bunkerville says:

    And if the Judge is an anchor baby as suggested…….. Crazy election.

  7. John M. Berger says:

    “How about if it was just called the Hispanic Lawyers Association?”
    If an organization is founded on ethnicity, exclusively, isn’t that counter to the “we’re all just Americans” stuff I’ve been hearing by those smearing Trump’s comments, albeit that they were ill-advised from a political stand point? Are non-Hispanics permitted to join this “LA RAZA” organization? Is there a ‘double standard’ in play here (just questions)?

  8. Tell it like it is, English translation, The Race Lawyers Association.
    No less racist than “The Black Congressional Caucus”, the NAACP, or “Black Lives Matter”.
    Just as racist.

  9. Bob says:

    I think it’s safe to assume that Judge Gonzalo Curiel is racist. La Raza is not only a communist group, it is racist for the reasons you express. La Raza is anti-American and pro-Mexican. It is just that simple.

    Judge Curiel is a contributor to Hillary Clinton’s campaign. For Curiel to sit in judgement of a Republican candidate for President of The United States is an obvious problem. Trump University may have been an total scam, but let it be adjudicated in a court absent the influence of Trump’s political adversaries.

  10. FB says:

    Another a propos video with your blog post, Z.

  11. FB says:

    Did you see Yale’s removal of Shakespeare in the curriculum b/c he represents white male oppression?

  12. Imp says:

    How about if it was just called the Hispanic Lawyers Association?

    How about a WASP Lawyers association or Caucasian Lawyers Caucus? Why is that we as whites are always the ones forced to “diversify”. Does China, Japan or any Asian countries do that? Does Africa demand more whites be imported from Europe or South Africa to their countries? Why are whites always assumed to be “racist” if we identify and show pride in our heritage?

    BTW…Hillary speaking about the middle class and jobs yesterday while wearing a $12000 Armani jacket?

  13. geeez2014 says:

    OH, gad! I only meant that LA RAZA was a bit ‘out there’ a name to represent supposedly decent, America-loving Hispanic lawyers…that’s all.

    I keep thinking people know me well enough to realize I don’t much approve of diversity names….
    Just used it as an example. SORRRYYY. (but not really)

    Yes, Imp…that Hillary jacket’s all over the media..disgusting woman. The irony is only lost on limousine liberals.

    Funny, also, that the media’s constantly asking Ivanka about her dad and how he treats women, but they never seem to ask Chelsea that. Oh, ya..Chelsea won’t do interviews except with liberals…like her mother.

    FB, that video’s LONG! Was sorry I got into it because I don’t have the time and it was so interesting…I listened to 20 minutes of it before I realized it was never ending 🙂
    Is the host Australian, or?
    I feel for that Mexican kid (wait, can I call him that since he was born in America? Just trying to qualify, not label, everybody!)…..I guess there are more like him because of the story I wrote yesterday about my voting experience (in Comments on the post below this) and because Republicans DO get SOME Hispanic votes.

    But how do we expect Hispanic kids to be any harder working than our own White or Black kids who are constantly taught today GET YOUR GOODIES…CHILL…LET THE RICH WORK FOR YOU?

    ENjoyed ALL YOUR COMMENTS but I do differ on one point a little:

    When we start saying “That judge can’t rule because he gave money…” that’s a very slippery and new slope, in my opinion.
    What do we do…”Everybody who likes Trump (and prove it to us..how?) YOU can be judge on his trial!” ???

    Bocopro…well done!

    JMB….I’m with you on Hillary..anybody but her. SUCH a shrew, such a liar, such a great, GREAT obfuscator..

    Sparky…I feel sane in an insane world, too…..watching our kids fall for someone like Bernie is SUCH an indictment of our parents and our teachers…particularly our teachers.

    I had to laugh hearing a Bernie supporter who’s a political advisor say last night “We have to get back to DEMOCRACY with Bernie!” The communist? REALLY?

  14. I find it curious that judge Curiel had to attest that none of the professional organizations that he belonged to would” discriminate on the basis of race, sex, religion, etc…” in order to be sworn in as a judge. Yet one of the organizations, the Hispanic National Bar Association, appears to be a racial-centric organization.

  15. Imp says:

    And who is Curiel?
    An appointee of President Obama, he has for years been associated with the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego,which supports pro-illegal immigrant organizations.

    Apparently, it is now not only politically incorrect, but, in Newt Gingrich’s term, “inexcusable,” to bring up the religious, racial or ethnic background of a judge, or suggest this might influence his actions on the bench.

    But these things matter.

    All of us are products of our family, faith, race and ethnic group. And the suggestion in these attacks on Trump that judges and justices always rise about such irrelevant considerations, and decide solely on the merits, is naive nonsense.

  16. Mal says:

    Its sad when you have to think “at least the illegal Mexicans crossing the border aren’t coming to kill us like Muslim Terrorists. They “only” want their land back.”
    Z, you said you listened to 20 minutes of FB’s video before realizing how long it was. When you open a video to watch, if you place your cursur on the right side of the slide bar at the bottom of the video, it will display the exact length of the video so you will know what to expect.

  17. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I know, I just hadn’t bothered to check; most aren’t that long so I don’t usually check, but thanks.

    Imp….so you think we need to start asking judges who they like, what they support, maybe who they voted for, before allowing them to sit on the bench? And we only pick as suitable the people who agree with us, or? How would that work?
    And, by the way, it makes me mad that there’s so much bias creeping into America, too….for years judges have had their own opinions, that’s just a FACT, but we liked to believe they went by the BOOK, not their BIAS.
    The Constitution’s being ignored these days, too, for ridiculous minority aggrandizement, etc etc…but how you get around that is …impossible, sadly.
    Still, we’d like to think a guy associated with a group like that would realize it’s not a great idea for a JUDGE.

    Yes, to suggest ANYBODY, judges or plumbers or interior designers, can rise above their own personal considerations is naive nonsense…we ALL come to subjects with our own biases. And judges can’t be mind-scrubbed of their whole past experiences or upbringing any easier than I could, sadly.

  18. Imp says:

    “Imp….so you think we need to start asking judges who they like, what they support, maybe who they voted for, before allowing them to sit on the bench?”

    Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, a woman of Puerto Rican descent said..

    “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” Sotomayor said in a speech at Berkeley law school and in other forums.”

    Translation: Ethnicity matters, and my Latina background helps guide my decisions.

    When LBJ appointed Thurgood Marshall, ex-head of the NAACP, to the Supreme Court, he did not think Marshall would bring his unique experience as a black man and civil rights leader to the bench?

    Surely, that was among the reasons Marshall was appointed.

    And on and on.

  19. geeez2014 says:

    Imp, Yes, then you’re misreading my point….it happens. And I’m not saying it’s RIGHT!!!! But EVERYBODY has something which informs his or her thinking.

    So, tell us…..you’d rule everybody who voted for someone you don’t like OUT for anything, or??? And rule every Hispanic out…even Alberto Gonzalez? Condi Rice?

    They don’t admit to biases, but you think they haven’t any?

  20. Baysider says:

    Re: judges
    I look for who they hang with … Birds of a feather, you know. If their flock wants to make the law and have flexible construction of the law that is a BIG NO. So yes, I only want judges who agree with me that they follow strict construction and aren’t there to make up law — as on calif Supreme Court judge stated he’d do (social ‘justice’ canard).

  21. Imp says:

    “I have approximately 1 million more examples of the media going mental about a “white judge” or “all-white jury,” and guess what? In none of them were any of the white people involved members of organizations dedicated to promoting white people, called “THE RACE.”

    As only the great Ann Coulter could explain this travesty….of being white.

    http://tinyurl.com/hzd9rsj

  22. geeez2014 says:

    Imp…for goodness sake….I GET your point. You didn’t need Ann. The media DOES bemoan an all white jury, or white judge from time to time……NO doubt about it.

    Perhaps that’s where Trump should have started when he started all this? Perhaps that’s what he should have said publicly. FIRST. THEN made his point. But, no….. Now the leftwingers are running with how Conservatives are all racist. Great job, huh? Talk about fodder for LOSING VOTES.

    Tell me again how you and Ann plan to solve the problem; never have a Hispanic in power because he might be working against Whites? Never have a Catholic on the Bench because he just might vote against choice? Never have a Black in power for the same reason? I give up. Eager to hear.

  23. FB says:

    They day people will recognize bias is part of human nature, we’ll be better off. I had a client telling me how surprised she was that I was so hard working for a French person.

  24. geeez2014 says:

    FB, that’s hideous. I’ve heard dispersions toward the French about not working hard, too…the thing is, they also play hard, and enjoy life, and some Americans find that lazy! Americans can’t understand German and French vacations off from work for six weeks, for example…..Somehow, life goes on in spite of that, right!? And it’s HEALTHY.
    Bias IS a part of human nature……even if people think they have no biases. Ridiculous.

    Imp’s Sotomayor quote is an example of going too far….but she is right…..A White male can’t feel what a Latina feels about life…in general…(and likewise) …but IF WE ARE TALKING COURTS THAN NOTHING MUST BE DONE THAT DOESN’T SIMPLY REFLECT THE LAW, NOT ETHNICITY OR GENDER, ETC. it must never be based on gender or ethnicity.

  25. Imp says:

    @Z..yes I know you do..it’s also for others to read. 🙂

    “Now the left wingers are running with how Conservatives are all racist.”

    And with those bogus statements…he gets another million votes.

  26. Imp says:

    @FB..”I had a client telling me how surprised she was that I was so hard working for a French person”

    Was that racist in your mind? Of course not. It’s the same as if I said all Italians like pizza or Russians like vodka….if one has non PC comments about the Germans, Spaniards, Poles of Czechs….does that make one a racist too? Mexicans are not a race. Nor are the above mentioned people.

  27. geeez2014 says:

    Imp, we need independents and some Dems if we’re going to win over Hillary….
    “RACIST” doesn’t help.

    Racist or not, I was with someone in Paris who didn’t know I was Armenian and he was shooting off his mouth about how ‘the Armenian lobby is WAY too strong against the Turks in this country’…blah blah blah….VERY disdainfully…a French General, REALLY insulting.
    I finally said “I’m Armenian.” Which stopped him dead in his tracks.
    Maybe that wasn’t Racist, but it sure didn’t feel good. But I’m VERY VERY glad it happened.

    I remember walking home late that night with Mr. Z from that dinner party, and I told him what had happened and said “That hurt, but it’s a great gift…Now I know a little of how Jews and Blacks feel.” And I MEANT IT.

  28. FB says:

    I actually didn’t care. I was glad she was able to recognize the individual behind the culture. That’s the way I should be. I have my bias with the French as well when I do business with them. But I give a chance to the individual. It wasn’t racist b/c being French is not a race. It wasn’t xenophobic because she still hired me. It was just a bias. We all have them.

  29. FB says:

    Maybe the better word would be a cliche. One for Armenians, Z, would be: Armenians in Glendale drive like maniacs and therefore when I’m there, I am more careful :))

  30. FB says:

    the way it should be, not the way I should be. Even though that works too 🙂

  31. geeez2014 says:

    FB…I know this is NOT your point, but Armenians in Glendale are mostly Russian Armenians…they’re a breed I stay away from. :0)
    I had an L.A. Cop tell me once that the Armenians who’d come here from Turkey for the last 100 years, were amazing…they had ZERO in jail …no troubles….when the Russians Armenians came, gangs started to form and the jails are FULL of them.
    My own father told me some Russian Armenian was on a job site he was visiting and “Z, it’s the first time I was embarrassed of being Armenian.”
    SO, I get your point 100% and since you picked that subject, I had to regale you with this stuff!

    And whether it’s literally RACIST or not, I would have cared about that comment were I you…I think it’s hurtful to suggest the French don’t work hard, or hurtful to suggest the Armenian lobby in France was hateful and too big (Oh, was that French general in LOVE with Turks…”they even speak FRENCH perfectly!”)…it’s not racist….but it IS a general bias toward a people..

    and it’s normal. And it’s unkind.

  32. FB says:

    Thanks for specifying the cliches :)) For having worked with them, they are not the same as my French Armenian neighbors. That’s for sure.
    Some cliches are unkind but that’s ok. It’s life. Or is it a micro-aggression? 😀

  33. John M. Berger says:

    “I’m Armenian.”
    Good! Everyone I’ve ever known is a good Christian and some of the best business people I’ve ever known. Be proud, be very proud!

  34. Kid says:

    Thoughts on the above……….

    My main thought is that the left has gotten so much mileage on their unbelievable lying that they are now in some orgasmic feeding frenzy of lying. I fully expect to see an artice in the washington post that states that if we don’t all vote for the clinton beast, aliens from the Vega system are going to come here and vaporize all non-democrats in the most excruciatingly painful way possible.

    This is what I expect.

  35. geeez2014 says:

    JMB…thanks so much! I am very proud of being Armenian, except the Russian Armenians (not all) are more typically black market babies-types of people…NOT GOOD.
    And yes, Armenia was the very first Christian Nation…..very strong Christians and usually very good at business. You’re very kind, thanks for your lovely comment. xxx (Our commenter buddy Mal is Armenian, too!)

  36. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, so much has happened that is SO INSANE that even what you wrote wouldn’t surprise me THAT much!! YIKES!

  37. Mal says:

    John, your comment about some of the Armenians you know being good businessmen reminded me in the mid 1960’s I was making a lot of apartment construction loans for an S & L in Beverly Hills, dealing mostly with Jewish builders. One asked what nationality my name was and when I told him Armenian, he mocked a surprised look on his face, stepped back, then turned both his front pockets inside out. It broke me up laughing! I told him if I was that sharp, I wouldn’t be working here. I’d be doing what he was doing. They were fun to deal with.

  38. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I almost mentioned, but didn’t for PC sake, a joke that some Armenians have with Jewish friends about DOING WELL AT BUSINESS ..” We taught the Jews everything THEY know !” 🙂

    But, of course, you can’t even make flattering generalizations anymore, right?
    Life used to be so much more fun and simple!

    I like your story!! VERY CUTE!!

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