Germany and Trump’s Acumen

Not sure, but I think Mr. Trump needs a crash course in the way the world’s made up these days…or something?  It seems he doesn’t know he can’t negotiate certain things with Germany directly, that he has to negotiate with the EU, which Germany is part of.

From THIS ARTICLE….. “Trump told Merkel and the press that Germany had gotten the better end of the stick in trade deals with the US in the past and that he was looking to rectify that situation.

“The negotiators for Germany have done a far better job than the negotiators for the United States,” he said. “But hopefully we can even it out.”

We know what “even it out” means, and it is an absurd notion. It means negotiating a bilateral trade deal with Germany and somehow ignoring the rest of the rest of the European Union.

Of course, that can’t happen. The US has to negotiate with the EU as a whole.

Merkel made sure to remind Trump of that fact — literally saying, “The European Union is negotiating those agreements for all of the member states” — after having told reporters she was “deeply convinced” that the EU is integral to the success of Germany’s economy.”

I’m wondering who could show him what’s up…FAST, particularly before meetings with leaders of other nations?   I’d have thought his Secretaries would be up on this stuff and would clue him in.

This is a LOT TO LEARN…how can that be easily facilitated?   Is he just too busy doing too much, or getting too involved in details on too many subjects to have the time necessary to get some background on these things?  I think most people know that the EU is who we bargain with on subjects concerning …well…EU members.

I think with the right input from true experts, he’s a guy who’d understand this stuff and stop making gaffes FAST.  What do you think?


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44 Responses to Germany and Trump’s Acumen

  1. Is he just too busy doing too much….

    I almost can’t resist a flippant comment about his Mar-a-Lago weekends and ironic time spent playing golf, given his past rhetoric…..

    But, Trump is not easy to figure out. I had a bad feeling in this regard when he seemed dismissive of getting regular PDBs…..given that he’s a Commander-in-Chief with zero experience in government affairs. On some occasions he has appeared to take and heed tempered advice, but otherwise continues to display an autocratic, pompous air. He could easily tap into expert advice on any given subject, especially in those areas that he’s not familiar. But does he want to? Does he simply think he knows best, in nearly any situation?

    He’s also hamstrung himself a bit, in that his Administration has not [when last checked] even nominated most of the candidates for empty/transitioning managerial positions. We probably won’t have an understanding on how much Trump considers advice from his team [or doesn’t] until either a major defection or the end of his term.


  2. bunkerville says:

    You might want to look at this site. It lists the trade imbalances we have throughout the world by country. I listed Germany.


  3. bunkerville says:

    Meant to include a link to the full list as the website is confusing to navigate:


  4. geeez2014 says:

    CI….he works the whole weekends at Mara Lago…that’s one criticism I’d not make. Plus, I never slammed Obama for the huge amount of time he played golf (after his people kept slamming Bush for an occasional golf game…I objected at the times Obama picked to play golf which were insensitive and created horrid optics on his part in the wake of hurricanes, etc.

    My friend who worked with Pence during the campaign, though he couldn’t stand Trump, said Trump never listens to anybody. Others say he’s eager to hear… I don’t know.


  5. geeez2014 says:

    Bunkerville…so we send them about twice what they take in? EXPORTS being hire than IMPORTS…INTo Germany, am I reading that correctly?

    Still, the point is that, yes, we do export/import with EU countries, but on ‘rules’ on what Germany can do, the EU makes those….am I reading your point wrong?


  6. Z – I don’t doubt that he works in Florida…but we’re paying for three full time households for one POTUS; and I just note the irony of Trumps frequent campaign denunciations for Obama playing golf. He’s certainly a mixed bag.


  7. geeez2014 says:

    Am listening to Leahy grilling Gorsuch this morning…..Leahy is slamming Bush about national security searches and how illegal they were………lovely that Leahy would NEVER bring up Obama and his IRS scandal.


  8. geeez2014 says:

    CI…I’m not getting into who plays more golf….I don’t begrudge anybody from getting some R&R….And, frankly, I haven’t heard that Trump plays full rounds of golf that often. Also, negotiations get done on golf courses….a president never stops working.
    Were you angry with Obama for using a presidential plane to send his dog to one of his homes? Or how many times Michelle Obama flew 300 of her hair dressers and best friends to Europe?
    The Trump family is completely moving to the White House in June and I am quite sure we haven’t paid for much beyond security for that “full time household”


  9. geeez2014 says:

    Leahy is making an utter ass of himself….no surprise.


  10. Were you angry with Obama….


    I’m not aware of “300 hairdressers”….but I do know that press and family/friends are not paid with taxpayer dollars…according to regulations anyway.


  11. Last line regarding flights on AF1&2, etc….


  12. bunkerville says:

    If you go through the various EU countries one will see that the balance of trade varies with each country. So whoever negotiated this deal it was a bad deal. My understanding is that Trump wants all deals renegotiated. I assume EU, China, Russia Et al. we are getting hosed. Add to that we are paying 22 percent of Nato. Germany a few percent of GDP. I think that is what he is working on,


  13. geeez2014 says:

    CI, I said ‘hairdressers and best friends’…

    Bunkerville…the point of the author of my post article was that Trump has to negotiate much with the EU, they make a lot of the rules for their members, no matter what balance of trades might be per country.
    I assume we’re getting hosed, too; until the EU breaks up we have to go by its rules …not deal with Germany directly on EU subjects.


  14. geeez2014 says:

    Watched Lindsey Graham just now supporting Gorsuch strongly…then insulting Trump by saying “I have to compliment Trump on this selection…I’m surprised he didn’t pick someone from a television show”
    What we don’t need is Republican senators joking like that about a sitting president.


  15. Imp says:

    As a builder…I think he’s sees things like a builder would, brick by brick, foundation first and then, build up the structure, then finishing touches to complete the project. He’s laid out his priorities in that manner….Immigration, the Wall, terrorism on the domestic front, protect the homeland, EPA, Jobs, Economy, keep jobs and the incentive for manufacturers to remain in the US, Health Care and he’s not about to be distracted from the goals he’s promised he’d complete. And…he’s a stubborn man….he listens to his own heartbeat and keeps on bull dogging ahead. And determined too get these things done.
    My 2 cents.


  16. Mal says:

    Its gonna take awhile ’cause everyone realizes he’s not a politician, including other countries. This was to be expected from someone with his background. He’ll catch on so give him time. Personally, I believe he is doing very well given this “drawback”.


  17. geeez2014 says:

    Imp, Mal, great comments and all true, (I hope)…I just hope he starts getting better briefed and listening to the experts….I know he’s picked some VERY good people with expertise no president can possibly have…

    I just heard that he told Senators who won’t vote for the healthcare bill that he’ll come after them? I wonder what he means. Not sure that’s a good thing. Here it is :

    “The president addressed a closed-door meeting of House Republicans days before the measure is expected to come to a vote on the House floor.

    Trump used both charm and admonishment as he made his case, reassuring skittish members that they would gain seats in Congress if the bill passed — and singling out Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the chairman of the hard-line House Freedom Caucus, in front of colleagues.

    “I’m gonna come after you, but I know I won’t have to, because I know you’ll vote ‘yes,’ ” Trump said, according to several Republican lawmakers who attended the meeting. “Honestly, a loss is not acceptable, folks.””

    First, he has to get used to losing; no amount of money will help him win everything he wants in a White House….and:

    HERE is part of the problem; why make it closed door when people keep telling what happened inside those closed doors? This is awful.


  18. Kid says:

    Couple thoughts:
    I don’t see where Trump would be negotiating with the “EU” regards how much merchandise comes from Germany to the US versus the smaller amount going to Germany 64.8 billion $ for 2016 going to Germany that never came back. I think that is something that can be negotiated with the genocidal maniac merkel. How can America send so many billions around the world and not having come back?

    Golf: If you don’t play this will surprise you to the point of disbelief, but you can learn so much more about a person playing a round of golf with them than you ever could palling around with them for 2 years or sitting at a negotiating table for a month. Seriously. It’s like a lie detector level tool to analyze someone’s personality, demeanor, interests, etc.
    I believe it is why Trump takes visitors to Mar-A-Lago and the golf course. Absolutely. He is working when he is on the course with these people. He also plays very quickly. No doubt slower when with a visitor.


  19. Kid says:

    Z, Trump ‘going after’ a RINO imo would be letting the voters know he is not working toward the agenda that Trump supporters voted for and they might want to consider getting this dead wood out of the way.

    That said – I don’t want government involved in healthcare one iota. If they are, democrats will soon or eentually regain power and turn it right back into the disaster it is now, ending up at single payer – taking all that Ins $ and re-routing it through DC, misusing it, and destroying health care just like every other single payer system has. I don’t support Trumpcare.


  20. Kid – that’s a great point about golf, and you’re probably spot on. But it also further highlights the hypocrisy of anyone who derided Obama playing golf……and especially Trump himself.

    Couldn’t agree with you more on healthcare.


  21. Kid says:

    CI, Well, I’m not included in the group that focused on obama’s golfing. I figure it someone is doing a good job in that position,have as much fun as you can. Not that obama did a good job and I’ll leave it at that. But that’s just a way of me saying I focus on the things that are done or not done good or bad for us and America.

    The huge enterouge trips of obama and especially michelle and 500 of her friends did bother me. I know taxpayers got hit for some of that. Maybe the folks paid for their hotel rooms(don’t know), but surely there were perks financed by us.


  22. Imp says:

    Watching Franken grill Gorsuch…I swear to God the asshat is drunk…slurring words, waving his arms around…and Neil looks like he’d like to cold cock this complete doofus…Jesus…he’s stupider than Maxine Waters if that’s possible.


  23. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, I completely disagree becauSe we don’t set EU law here….but I sure agree about GOLF, as I said above…a lot of business is done on the course, and a lot of good ‘getting to know someone’

    CI…you keep mentioning that people said Obama played too much golf. He played it at the times of hurricanes and terror attacks; that’s what most good people had a problem with, and understandably so. It happened many times.

    Imp: I’m watching, too….finally got my taxes done while watching!!!
    Franken really IS STUPID…picking on old cases, very few and trying so hard to screw Gorsuch but he can’t.
    OH how FUNNY! I just heard Franken say “I know you’ve been saying that you don’t think it’s right for people to know what you think on many subjects but I think you’ve made it very clear” In other words, Franken KNOWS and GOT GORSUCH…what a freakin’ JERK. Imp, there aren’t enough nasty words for Franken.

    But Dick Durbin hit a whole new low today, however…He tried to make Gorsuch look bad through statements his professor of 25 years ago made 🙂 THAT REALLY TOOK THE CAKE!!!


  24. It seems that somebody’s lifted kid’s
    post (and added to it) and posted it at FTs blog. He addressed the comments to the “wiseass”.


  25. geeez2014 says:

    THE LITTLE GUY has been said so many times by the Left today!

    Senator Sasse just blew my mind…what a great guy…he’s SO right….”you’ve been asked political questions which are inappropriate” AMEN TO THAT, SASSE!


  26. Kid says:

    CI, Thanks. So nice to be quoted. (I made a jimmy comey comment there a little while ago that is missing or awaiting moderation.) Weird looking comment section on that post. Maybe FT got hacked.


  27. geeez2014 says:

    Kid…you say “Z, Trump ‘going after’ a RINO imo would be letting the voters know he is not working toward the agenda that Trump supporters voted for and they might want to consider getting this dead wood out of the way.”

    The big problem there , and I HOPE TRUMP GETS THIS, is that if the supposed rinos are out the libs are in and Trump’s done…completely done. Forever ….no bills get passed, nothing changes.


  28. geeez2014 says:

    GAD! Cavuto, my hero, just said exactly what I did above….


  29. Kid says:

    Z, Isn’t it so pathetic that this is the only stuff the democrats have and even more so that so many people are unable to see through it? repubs are for the big bad meany rich guys, repubs want to burn all the black churhes and put you all back in chains, etc.
    Then democrats are for the ‘little guy’ who now has 3 times the co-pay, 3 times or more health ins costs, and 3 times or more deductible levels so that the little guy can pay out of pocket for So much more of his health care every year. But it’s OK because Everyone is insured now ! Except for those 33 million who aren’t and never will be under Ocare.

    It’s like living in a bad cartoon.


  30. Kid says:

    Z, I’m thinking in terms of other repubs or tea party people running to replace them. Ever the optimist am I. 🙂

    Course you have the mcconnells who when challenged just get 4 or 5 more guys to run to water down the opposition vote.


  31. geeez2014 says:

    Kid “Z, I’m thinking in terms of other repubs or tea party people running to replace them. Ever the optimist am I. ”
    That’s our hope, and I suppose die hard Reps would pick another Rep but I think enough would be so ticked off they might not vote at all.

    “Like living in a bad cartoon.” VERY good expression….exactly right.
    Gorsuch is coming off like a RAVING GENIUS in comparison..I LIKE THAT!

    I’m liking him even more as the day wears on and he’s wearing out….he’s showing a little more personality as he tires! And he’s TERRIFIC! LIke glancing over at Cruz with an expression like “you believe this?” he’s subtle, but I’m catching it and I LIKE IT!!!!!


  32. Imp says:

    “repubs are for the big bad meany rich guys..”

    Meanwhile out of the top 15’s wealthiest are…Dems. Look at all the dems in hollywood….Spielberg, billionaire. Bezos…Billionaire, Gates…Billionaire…Buffet…billionaire….THEY CAN TALK ALL THAT BOOLSHIET ABOUT BEING FOR THE LITTLE MAN CAUSE IT’S NONSENSE AND JIVE PR. Feinstein / Blum…multi millionaires…Kerry multi millionaire…Pelousy …multi millionaire…Maxine Waters….thief hoping to steal enough from her scams to be a millionaire.

    God…ya gotta hate their lies and hypocrisy.


  33. Kid says:

    IMP, yea, it is so 180 it is hard to believe so many people can’t figure it out.

    Z, Thanks.


  34. FB says:

    He’s a business guy and CEO but he needs to learn that in government you deal with compromise, mediocrity, lazy people trying to keep their power, useless consensus, people who talk and don’t do much, basically everything that makes gov not work. He must bang his head on a daily basis. On top of that he wants to negotiate one by one b/c multiparty negotiations take too long and no one is happy at the end.

    I would go crazy trying to appease and appeal to all those idiots running the western world to the ground.


  35. geeez2014 says:

    FB, I agree about Trump….this doesn’t suit his personality at ALL. He’s used to making ALL the decisions…
    I cringed the other day when someone was talking about how he screwed businesses working for him in NYC …because my neighbor knew a gal whose family is a BIG law firm and she told him that Trump uses law firms, gets things done, then stiffs them. I didn’t believe it then.


  36. geeez2014 says:

    Sure, his family has every right to keep on doing what they do, but REALLY? If I were him, I sure wouldn’t. I don’t know anybody who would.
    This is sickening….talk about handing your enemies grenades.


  37. Kid says:

    Sickening is the hildebeast in the white house. 🙂


  38. Bob says:

    Negotiating with the EU is like trying to herd cats, or something like that. The EU administrators have nothing to loose, and have no financial skin in the game. Some of the concerns we have are rules implemented by the EU, such as adding VAT to imports. Of course, we don’t add a similar tax, like corporate tax, to even things out when we import stuff. The playing field is drastically tilted.

    I agree with Trump on addressing the problems directly to Germany, or any other country that wants to export to the USA. There is no such thing as “can’t”, even with the EU running interference for Germany, France and other EU entities. Once we start slapping taxes on German imports, Germany will come around quickly, either singularly or by Germany forcing the EU’s hands. After all Germany is the kingpin of the EU.

    The way to break the EU screen is by attacking its constituent elements. I think Trump is doing the right thing. You should not believe he hasn’t thought this out.


  39. Kid says:

    Bob, There it is.

    Certainly a part of negotiatig is NOT letting your opponent put you in a false box.


  40. geeez2014 says:

    Germany doesn’t deal with certain things without the EU…no EU countries do.
    Bob, it’s why there IS an EU. I don’t think he thinks anything out, by the way. I think he constantly shoots from his hip and hopes he gets results. This administration takes the cake on what they say! I just heard Spicer said today that “Paul Manafort played a limited role in the campaign”. He was campaign MANAGER for six months…the fun never stops.

    I’d love to think you’re both right. I’d LOVE to think any American president can just change the rules and operate as a private businessman. But that’s not the way we go in this country.
    Again, I WISH I thought you were right, Bob.


  41. FB says:

    That’s why the EU sucks. It’s mediocre because it needs compromise that goes against each nation’s interest. Collectivism and socialism at work.


  42. geeez2014 says:

    FB, I HATE the EU and have since they started it. I hope it sinks FAST.


  43. FB says:

    Trump should tell the EU “Americans are paying high medication prices because you guys are controlling prices there and we’re basically subsidizing your healthcare on top of your defense.”


  44. Bob says:

    “Germany doesn’t deal with certain things without the EU”..

    Z: No. Maybe Germany is contractually obligated to deal with EU, but the Germans are not stupid. You see, we are a big enough market that we DON’T have to deal with the EU, and Germany knows this. If we punish Germany with extra taxes, Germany will find a way to deal. That’s just reality.


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