ROLL BACK INTERNET PRIVACY PROTECTION? WHY?

A very good example of what I’ve been harping about in comments about biased reporting recently is HERE IN THIS ARTICLE, ESPECIALLY THE HEADLINE:    CONGRESS VOTES TO ROLL BACK INTERNET PRIVACY PROTECTION

“What?”  a person might ask upon reading the headline. “Are they crazy?  I’m fed up with fears of internet hacking and my loss of privacy and now this stinkin’ Republican congress wants to ROLL BACK privacy?

SO….please take a look at the whole article…IT LOOKS LIKE A HORRIBLE IDEA FROM CONGRESS.  TELL US HOW IT ISN’T.  TELL US WHAT A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST MIGHT SAY TO COMBAT THE TRULY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES IN THIS BILL~

Please!
Z

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33 Responses to ROLL BACK INTERNET PRIVACY PROTECTION? WHY?

  1. Admittedly, I haven’t thoroughly researched this action…but I’m not seeing the upside. Rolling back regulation is generally a good thing, but not merely for it’s own sake. Protecting the privacy of the Citizen, should remain a paramount goal in every Congressional action.

  2. FB says:

    I heard about this and I believe it’s for the ability to sell consumer data to 3rd parties. That’s how I understood it.

    The NSA and CIA spy on us and there is already no privacy. I’m much more worried about the ability of government to not only store everything about me but also to write data that could incriminate me in a court of law to my devices.

  3. bocopro says:

    I’m the wrong guy to ask about privacy and snoops and customer-usage tracking and identity fraud and all that.

    First, I NEVER buy on-line, and most of my internettiness occurs on blogs or links I pick up from them. We do not have any of those “discount” or “preferred customer” cards that big-chain supermarkets and other businesses use for tracking product preferences. We buy 90% of our food from the Navy Commissary or Asian mom&pop stores, and we always pay cash (except when Milady goes to Sam’s, about once every 2 months or so, to stock up on specific things).

    I don’t really much care if anyone knows what kind of tea I drink or what brands of cereals are my favorites or what types of fruits and veggies I like best. We get very little junk mail, primarily because we avoid using plastic. And besides, the USPS would be bankrupt in a year without political, solicitational, and other bulk or junk mail, n’est ce-pas?

    O.K. Now, all that said, I believe that anyone who pesters people with pop-ups, nuisance fone calls, and unwanted come-on junk-mail adverts should be regularly and publicly horsewhipped.

    AND, anyone found guilty of blackmail or identify theft should be surgically neutered, slowly, sans anaesthesia, with the strike plate from a very old door frame.

  4. The same business model that already suggests sales, travel routes, dinner reservation availability, movue times, alerts us to a friend’s status, tell you where you left your phone, or where it was taken from you, or aletts you to credit fraud, etc., now wants to do more of the same.

  5. Kid says:

    What Ed said.

    And actually when everything went digital, such as phone traffic, everything you do on the internet or say over the phone is on disk somewhere and is searchable. Plus cameras everywhere so your image is recorded practically everywhere you go as well.

    This is no big whup.
    We’re not bothered by the outside world because we just don’t answer the phone unless we recognize the number.

    If you really want to be anonymous on the internet you can use a VPN and pay about $8 a month or a free VPN but those have data limits (like your cell phone) usually around 2GB a month

  6. geeez2014 says:

    Thanks for the input/ interesting…..

    I thought this is a great example of media bias as the article makes the WH sound like nuts for wanting to ROLL BACK INTERNET PRIVACY….When I saw the headline, I thought “Oh, NO!” and then I read it and didn’t really understand it and wondered if the title was a bit more incriminating than the actual bill? But I can’t tell from your comments if it’s a good bill or not.

    So tell us; what’s the upside to this bill and the downside!? 🙂 I rely on some of you for an education from time to time..particularly on high-tech stuff like this!

    I will say that I order on line and look around sites and I HATE IT when suddenly the things I looked for are popping up on the sides of my scrabble game or ads on myhomepage, etc. HATE IT!! 🙂

  7. It’s not easy to fight against this, but everyone can tale a few simple steps that certainly won’t hurt. Use a non-tracking search engine, like Duck-Duck-Go…….use the ‘HTTPS Everywhere’ browser plugin…..as kid mentioned, use a VPN client….and log out of Google, FB, etc…when you’re not actually using them.

    Beyond that, the only next step available to most people, is to connect via TOR or use the TOR browser. I’d steer clear of free VPNs, as they are more inclined [so I’ve read] to sell your data.

  8. Mal says:

    There is an article in today’s paper “Elon Musk announces brain implant venture” that could tie-in with today’s blog. He launched a new venture called Neuralink focused on linking brains to computers. The company plans to develop brain implants that can treat neural disorders that may one day be powerful enough to put humanity on a more even footing with possible future superintelligent computers. He has become an outspoken doomsayer about the threat artificial intelligence might one day pose to the human race.

  9. Kid says:

    MAl, That will complete the steps necessary to get us to Orwell’s 1984

  10. Kid says:

    Z, I’d say there is no upside to the bill, downside being the chipping away at our liberties, but personally I don’t much care one way or the other.

  11. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, it’s a terrible story I read on Facebook…I almost commented “it’s the end of the world” I agree with Kid.

    Kid, “no upside to the bill”…You mean you don’t mind Trump’s congress getting rid of the original bill, or you think what HE’s doing has no upside..

    CI…..and everyone: SO DO YOU THINK TRUMP’S DOING THE WRONG THING BY ‘ROLLING BACK INTERNET PRIVACY PROTECT’? OR DO YOU EVEN THINK THIS BILL DID AFFORD ANY PRIVACY PROTECTION?

    I’M CONFUSED! 🙂

  12. This bill appears to be de-regulation for it’s own sake…or a gift to the ISP corporations. There doesn’t seem to be any added protection to privacy, whatsoever.

  13. geeez2014 says:

    CI…yes, the critics are saying it’s definitely taking away from privacy, as you can see in the headline of the story.
    I’m sorry; you had mentioned the “for it’s own sake” point above and I forgot.
    So, it looks like it’s pro-big corporation….nothing for consumers?

  14. I’ve read a number of good articles today after you posted this, and not one has come up with a consumer benefit. The underlying problem here is that with individual sites, forums and such…..users can simply go somewhere else [if they can’t opt-out]. With ISP providers, many people have no choice in how they are able to access the internet. I’ve seen zero upside for you or I here..

  15. Kid says:

    I think they should have left the original bill. There is upside for the ISP’s of course as they’ll make more $, nothing for us.

  16. geeez2014 says:

    Thanks, guys….so CI’s probably 100% right in suggesting it’s liberty for liberty sake and not much meat there. ugh

  17. Mal says:

    Kid and Z, I understand your concern, but there could be an up side to this, also. My wife has been “blessed” with bouts of extreme vertigo and undergoing physical therapy treatments 3 times a week, the only hope they have to control it as there is no cure. The possibility of some kind of implant in her head, be it her brain, ear, or whatever, gives me hope they can finally do something more for her. I guess it all depends on how you see things, huh? In addition, she has constant noise in her ears, mostly throbbing (squish-squish) heart beating that drives her nuts. She’s been sleeping in a recliner in the family room because the noise is so loud when lying down. I keep praying for a cure. Could this finally be it?

  18. Kid says:

    I hope it’s available soon Mal.

  19. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I hope that can happen for Joni. I think that the way the guy describes his implant/chip is intelligence….l don’t like the idea of robots and human brains on any same level, you know? “linking brains to computers?” I HOPE NOT!

    But some kind of solution for your wife? I HOPE SO!!!

    KID AND CI: I just heard a Politico guy discussing this bill and he seems to think it’s a big win for the corporations but that some of those corps didn’t have an even playing field and this does it…no big upside for consumers, apparently.

  20. geeez2014 says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/your-browsing-history-for-sale-white-house-wont-comment-on-trumps-intent-to-sign-bill-eroding-internet-privacy-rules-181117390.html

    EEEEEWWW…just saw this ….not well handled. And THIS headline says the bill “ERODES” Privacy rules….the press NEVER quits, does it!

    Not sure this bill is a good idea (actually I’m pretty sure it stinks for anybody but the corporations) but the bias is palpable………

  21. I think the headline is accurate…..our privacy is being eroded at an alarming rate……not least of which, by this bill.

  22. geeez2014 says:

    CI….the longer this day goes and more info’s being discussed, I know you’re right on this headline……..
    Trump looks bad again…this time, it’s deserved.

  23. Mal, there is an implant that could relieve Scherie’s seizures, but she could never have an MRI.
    Pass.
    The upside to the bill might be that there would be more revenue for those corporations benefiting and consequently Market forces would allow them to lower their prices to us perhaps for internet service.

  24. Don’t count out Congress on blame; Trump may be itching to sign it, but Congress is passing it.

    Ed – You could be right, but the repealed legislation isn’t very old….and I’ve never seen my internet bill decrease….

  25. CI: I forgot the most isps are monopolies in the communities they serve if serve is the correct choice of words.

  26. geeez2014 says:

    ANYBODY here use “VPN” for better internet privacy? It’s been touted a lot tonight on the news. Both sides of this bill recommend it…

  27. Not until I need to.
    I’m not advocating sedition or engaged in child porn.

  28. Imp says:

    “ANYBODY here use “VPN” for better internet privacy?”

    Yup…and very affordable now too.

  29. Imp says:

    ED…”I forgot the most isps are monopolies in the communities they serve..”

    Yes…and they get their services at a nice reduced rate too…say in a closed adult only community where they negotiate with the providers.

  30. ANYBODY here use “VPN” for better internet privacy?

    Yep. I got a deal for lifetime VPN [5 devices] for something like $39.99 on StackSocial.

  31. Mal says:

    Ed, thanks. I agree with you to pass on an implant. She had one MRI and is scheduled for another soon. Meanwhile, we keep hoping there is some scientific breakthrough because there are a lot of folks that could benefit from it.

  32. Elmers Beother says:

    The problem was it wasn’t going to be applied even handedly. It excused Google and other s like Facebook and yahoo and only effected smaller ISP providers.

  33. Elmers Beother says:

    And it hasn’t even went into effect yet.

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