I agree………….I love this;







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  1. Sounds a lot like “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
    Do unto others == your obligations.


  2. bocopro says:

    Somewhere I read a line suggesting that in a world where people had ethics and common sense, we’d have no need for lawyers, or laws, or police forces, or armies.

    I’m not exactly sure what my native obligations are, but 24 years of military service and 15 teaching writing in college classes prob’ly satisfies a lot of ’em.

    As for rights, my grandfather always told us that our individual rights end at the tip of the other guy’s nose. He read that somewhere, I’m sure, but I sure agree with it.

    My daily rant kinda sorta touches on that general topic in light of the latest French surrender.


  3. Though I treat obligations and rights with parity, this is why I’m philosophically fascinated with the theory of a service requirement in order to obtain the rights of a Citizen. It’s not terribly realistic, and has some gaping holes….but at present the Citizen is only obligated to follow a myriad of mostly coercive laws….enforced at the point of a gun.


  4. Completely agree, Z. So many people today let others do the heavy lifting. They’re lazy & entitled. Why are they so special? THEY ARE NOT!

    Who cares what you did yesterday, a week ago or a year ago? The trash still has to be emptied today. Meals need to be prepared daily. No one should get a free pass from participating in the work that needs to be done everyday, unless you’re sick or unable.

    Honestly…. so many bad attitudes…. “I’m not doing that….”. Why the hell not? Get off your lazy butt & contribute!


  5. The definition of an obligation has basically become, getting up out of bed and demanding what’s mine. While the rest of us work, the freeloaders and the soon to be freeloaders with college degrees in useless leftism will collect their “due” from a government that trades government gifts for votes. What happens when those of us foolish enough to believe you get ahead by working hard, can no longer work hard?


  6. Mal says:

    The first thought that came to mind was also the first thing Ed wrote. “Do unto others…” etc.
    The key word is “IF”. To quote an old saying “If my aunt had b—s, she’d be my uncle.”


  7. Baysider says:

    Spot on! This thinks of the ‘other’ first. Not exclusively, but enough to pull us out of our selfish zone.


  8. bocopro says:

    FWIW, I abbreviated today’s rant and stuck it on the end of yesterday’s comment thread in answer to your final question about Le Pen and Frexit there.


  9. geeez2014 says:


    Yes, it’s the OTHER first…not JUST ME ME ME ME….my obligations MY bills MY schooling MY family MY job….I owe it to myself AND MY COUNTRY to fulfill my OBLIGATIONS…..

    Our RIGHTS are what most people think they deserve today; my RIGHT to expect free school, my right to have my neighbor pay for my mother’s old-age care, my right to get a cushy job with a big salary, my right to expose my breasts and breastfeed in front of you because I HAVE A RIGHT, my right to a bathroom that’s not gender-specific….we could all go ON AND ON AND ON.

    Yes, this is what I meant, this is what I saw when I got that ‘quote’ in an email sent to me yesterday.

    Ed and Mal…I don’t see a correlation at ALL there….with “do unto others”….

    Bocopro, you said “Somewhere I read a line suggesting that in a world where people had ethics and common sense, we’d have no need for lawyers, or laws, or police forces, or armies.”

    I’ve said that many times here…My feeling is capitalism doesn’t work without goodness, without kindness, thinking of others…ethics, common sense, yes. Less GREED, more KINDNESS, more responsibility-taking.

    Fairest Witness….well said!!


  10. Mal says:

    Z, both suggest if we did some ideal thing, we’d reap an ideal result. There are probably more old sayings that we could’ve used, too. Both Ed and I just happened to get the same thought. No biggie.


  11. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I’m not offended or anything! Just saying I don’t see how the two relate…I mean, I get how they’re both positive, healthy ways of looking at things, that I’m sure of!

    I explain how I take it in my comment to Baysider.


  12. I am not offended either, but for the lief of me, I see no difference between what Baysider and I said.
    We both even said it referred to the “other”.
    As for rights, a friend of mine said that anything that calls for me to fund it is not your right.


  13. geeez2014 says:

    Ed, sorry….and yes, actually, when I read Bay’s again just now I realized she’s not QUITE on the same page as I was…..I did explain my interpretation.

    Anybody see this ? It’s important to have an article all over the internet about how a family told a 92 yr old guy Trump was impeached so he’d die happy? And that’s making the news?

    One after the other…every SINGLE FREAKING DAY….hate hate hate hate..innuendos, misinformation, Trump’s own handing of ammo to the leftwing NUTS, ….Melania is costing NYC too much, Trump says he stayed in New Jersey to save money but the media’s happy to say how much he’s cost us at Mira Lago, Ivanka’s been called something so vile by Maher that nobody’s repeating it on the news, Jerod Kirchner is suddenly styling his hair like Trump was another story last week…it never ENDS.

    and the Los Angeles City Council has passed something that goes to Congress about ways they feel Trump could definitely be impeached.

    WHAT THE H?????????


  14. geeez2014 says:

    OH, if ONLY the Right had complained, whined, had journalists ready to expose all the horrible stuff Obama said/did……oh, if only we had curious journalists……..without them, we’re toast


  15. geeez2014 says:

    Bocopro…I had heard a bit about this but not these big numbers! Trust me, if my husband was a liberal Dem, or was a Conservative who hated Trump to the extreme some do today, I’d have a VERY hard time with it.

    I’m frankly surprised this many stand up for Trump 🙂


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