MSNBC…….news that could be worth considering;

Greta’s GONE from MSNBC.

Her ratings were low, particularly since MSNBC’s ratings have been climbing since Trump came into office.   From another article:

“Though 2017 is pacing to be another record-breaker for the cable news networks, with MSNBC seeing its ratings climb the most, Van Susteren’s hour has been one of the few MSNBC shows to get little attention.

During the second quarter, her 6 p.m. show averaged a ho-hum 980,000 viewers, including a mediocre 207,000 adults in the 25-54 demo. Those kind of numbers would have been great for MSNBC a couple years ago, but now they’re pacing well below originals of most of the MSNBC weekday lineup – even trailing repeats of Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell.”

Fox constantly gets slammed for not being fair and balanced, when, if anybody watched it, they’d see there are almost as many liberal contributors on every panel discussion as there are conservatives.  Actually, I have a LOT of Republican friends unable to watch anymore now that Richard Fowler, Maria Harf and others are so frequently on.

Yes, Progressives are tuning more into MSNBC this year….but I was surprised by this information that I had not heard:  MSNBC recently hired conservative columnist Bret Stephens and, last week, gave a show to fellow right-winger Hugh Hewitt.

I’m a big fan of Bret Stephens…Hewitt’s not bad, either.   But….I can’t watch MSNBC.

Rupert Murdock’s daughters-in-law are particularly liberal, one having worked with Hillary, and their husbands and themselves being huge liberal contributors….think they’d risk Fox’s financial success for their ideology?   


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23 Responses to MSNBC…….news that could be worth considering;

  1. bunkerville says:

    Greta had a rough time slot– 6 pm when a whole lot watch the news. I always liked her. Trump gave new life to MSNBC Morning Joe just as he did with Madcow.. I wish he would stop giving them attention and let the network die a timely death.


  2. Mustang says:

    MSNBC is so well funded that I do not believe ratings matter.


  3. cube says:

    I always liked Greta because, even though she was a liberal, I always thought she was fair. That’s all I want from a journalist. Liberals can pound me forever with their nonsense and I won’t bite because my critical thinking skills help me weed out the nonsense. Maybe it’s the science major part of my nature that protects me,


  4. bocopro says:

    My daily rant earlier this week focused on how the denizens of the coastal megalopolises completely misjudge not only the attitudes but the numbers of voters in flyover country.

    The two main petri dishes for media content in America are D.C. and Noo Yawk Sitty, with occasional ingredients overnited in from SanFranFreakShow, My-Oh-My, and ChiCongo.

    Voting, however, as was clearly demonstrated last November by the EC, is done in that vast, misunderstood green world outside the concrete jungle and red-tape forest.

    While not energized for displaying something specific, my TV default is no longer FNC but OAN. Can’t remember the last time I watched anything on MSNBC, and Greta was never on my playlist.

    And the instrument capable of recording my indifference to any policy decisions by ABCNNBCBS and now FNC has yet to be constructed. I trust NOthing from the alphabet networks and very little on Fox.


  5. geeez2014 says:

    Bunkerville, that’s what I’ve been saying, too. Were it not for Trump, the leftwing cables wouldn’t be doing this well. CNN had started to falter but the Russian collusion stuff really built them back up, and now these comments by Trump have got them interviewing “Repuublican” panels of Trumps supports and how turned off on him they are now. They’re showing that a lot. AND IT HITS HARD at Trump, and legitimately so.

    Mustang, who do you think’s funding MSNBC? Soros types? They’re flourishing now with the horrid anti-Trump sentiment; I don’t think that’s their funding doing that. I think it’s Trump.

    cube, I thought Greta was dull but pretty good…I also saw her move a bit further to the Right as she progressed at Fox. I never saw her on MSNBC so I don’t know if she remained firm on truth in journalism or??

    bocopro; the problem is the viewpoints of the coasts (and, by the way, even the coasts aren’t as ‘all liberal’ as some like to think…) are starting to squeeze slowly into the middle states……winning by having graduated liberal teachers and having them start teaching Middle America’s kids.


  6. bocopro says:

    “starting to squeeze slowly into the middle states……winning by having graduated liberal teachers and having them start teaching Middle America’s kids.”

    And THAT is the subject of today’s rant. Here’s the opening paragraph (after the personalized intro):

    Our schools, particularly post-secondary, are cranking out cookie-cutter student clones programmed with socialist propaganda. Today’s BA graduate is the pinnacle, the symbol, the zenith of western civilization – a societal dead end which has forgotten or revised so much of its history that it’s either completely indifferent or rabidly hostile to its own culture.


  7. geeez2014 says:

    Can any of you remember people close enough to the president or NSC who’d give this information up before high-profile meetings like the Putin meeting next week? They’re telling us that Trump’s asking for something unusual, but really?
    Here’s info from the article:
    “The president’s defenders say offering such concessions is a standard diplomatic technique. Others, however, have said the Russians would likely perceive an offer to roll back sanctions or return the compounds, while asking for little or nothing in return, as a sign of weakness.”

    Even I know it’s a standard technique…who doesn’t know that. And who said we’re offering things to Russia for NOTHING? Does that sound like a standard Trump move?
    But the media’s covering it…and someone leaked this.

    Real tiring to see people trying to destroy this administration by telling journalists information only the WH and the Naitonal SECURITY Council knows.. ..destroying our negotiating powers at the same time, of course.


  8. Mal says:

    I agree with both Cube and you, Z, about Gretta. I always felt she was more balanced than others on the left, and also noticed a gradual drift to the right. We never watched her show after leaving FOX,


  9. geeez2014 says:

    Right, Mal.





  10. geeez2014 says:

    aha…Just wiki’d Stephens…he’s only a contributor on NBC…not his own show. That’s a relief; let them hear some rationality! He has been married twice,….interestingly, his first wife was a NYTimes book review editor, the wife now is a music critic for the NY Times 🙂
    But he IS a strong ‘neoconservative’…hurrah!

    Hewitt’s supposedly got a Saturday morning SHOW on NBC….he used to be a tougher conservative but he had a radio show coming out of LA and I felt he was going squishy recently..


  11. geeez2014 says:

    I guess all the horrible reaction by Trump haters and Trump likers hasn’t made a dent in this president….Tweeting again, just as thin skinned and provoking….giving more and more ammo to the left.
    He’s got to be getting very sound advice about stopping sounding SO thin skinned and mean….his insistence of sounding like this and hanging ammo to the left on a silver platter worries me more than the silly tweets do.


  12. geeez2014 says:

    that’s HANDING, not HANGING


  13. “….think they’d risk Fox’s financial success for their ideology?”

    They already have, Z. They’re imploding their own network. Getting rid of the giants that built Fox News – tearing down everything their father built…. for Leftist ideology.


  14. geeez2014 says:

    FW,possibly…though I doubt it. Clearly, they’ve been utterly HUMILIATED all these years Fox had the high ratings…imagine their ultra-liberal friend cocktail parties and Hillary events where the daughters in law had to live with the Fox hate, when THEIR FAMILY OWNED IT?
    Sure, they probably have enough money now that ideology can ‘trump’ financial success, and maybe that hate has built to the frenzied point now so they will put up with a dip in finances…and obviously, when WE take a dip in our finances, it’s bigger than THEIR taking a dip.

    Ailes built Fox more than Murdoch did…Murdoch wasn’t as lib as cons. Ailes was….but now Ailes is gone, Gretchen and Julie and many others are winning big law suits against the Fox hand that fed them, and Hannity’s holding on by the skin of his teeth.

    Let’s see what happens. I wish OneAmericaNews had a higher caliber of news person there but I suspect they simply can’t afford it.


  15. Hewitt took over Bill Bennett’s morning show.
    I miss Bill, particularly in light of Hewitt’s self-promotion and huckster type personality.
    Yet, I believe he is a conservative.
    However, since he signed on with NBC, he has a lot of NBC guests on who are very middle of the road or left on his show. It has it’s good moments, like Fridays with Dr. Larry Arnn.
    He is now the token conservative at MSNBC.
    Like Joe Scarborough once was.


  16. Baysider says:

    Yes – to risking Fox’s success to ideology. Definitely.
    I haven’t heard Hugh since he moved to the middle of the night. He’s an excellent interviewer. I miss his regular segment with the Smart Guys (law) and periodic in-depth book interviews with authors that ran for weeks. It’s not like he has a good time slot on MSNBC, but he was really good on the show he shared on public TV (KCET) with the two libs for years. Like Ed, I’m not such a fan of the shameless huckstering. I think some of it’s in jest, but not my style.


  17. Bay, that puts it 3am your time, 6am mine.


  18. geeez2014 says:

    Some would call Mark Levin a huckster, too. They all have something to push/sell….

    Baysider, as I said, I don’t think it’s ‘definitely’….money does strange things to people and I doubt even the Murdock lefties want any less of it.

    Ed, you believe Hewitt’s Conservative? He definitely is, just more squishy than others…but no liberal. Hewitt’s a very good friend of Arnn’s….had him on very frequently.


  19. Baysider says:

    Hewitt’s long interview string with Arnn is generally very good. Since I stopped podcasting him years ago I signed on for the Hillsdale College podcast which is the weekly interview. Gotten quite an education.


  20. Bay: The Churchill stuff is fantastic, eh?
    I mentioned something Arnn said to a former Chief Justice I was talking to today, questioning why a justice would retire.
    I think he was thinking of Thomas.


  21. geeez2014 says:

    Justice Thomas’ autbiography is excellent. Uncharacteristically, I wrote him a note thanking him for such a wonderful book. In return, I received a hand written letter back from him, on Superior Court stationery, thanking me sincerely…signed Justice Clarence Thomas. A wonderful man in all ways.
    His book is a winner.


  22. cube says:

    My morning routine now is HLN’s Morning Express with Robin Meade. Z, you and I have talked about this for years. Fox & Friends, Morning Joe, Imus in the Morning… we’ve watched them all and they’ve left us disaffected sometimes. All I want is news with my coffee. News. I don’t want political theater or drama. Just the news, please.


  23. cube says:

    I forgot to mention that my husband hates that I watch HLN because it is a sister network to CNN.. He says it’s the same thing as watching CNN.


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