Trump and DACA….Can they have it both ways?

So the Dreamers Act…DACA….was given back to Congress to make a decision because that’s how our laws work, unlike what Obama did.    HERE is the article from which I got the italicized quotes:

So, the Right was happy Trump’s going by the book.   “Trump on Tuesday ordered an end to the program but gave Congress six months to act on it.”  SO, what’s that mean exactly?

Then he tweeted, “For all of those (DACA) that are concerned about your status during the 6 month period, you have nothing to worry about – No action!”

“White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said only that Trump “is focused on responsible immigration reform and wants to work with both sides to achieve it.””

OK.  Work both sides, but can you TAKE both sides to achieve anything?

Then he gives a chance to Pelosi to take ALL the credit “At her news conference, Pelosi told reporters, “I was reporting to my colleagues, I said, ‘This is what I asked the president to do and boom, boom, the tweet appeared.’  “..Or, at least, she took all the credit…….disgusting.   Boom, boom, boom?

“On immigration, Trump is navigating politically tricky waters. Some of his Republican voters want a hard line on illegal immigration. Yet others in his administration and a majority of Americans support protected status for children brought to the country illegally by their parents.”

That about says it all…………..WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

(just thought I’d throw that in!)

Z

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36 Responses to Trump and DACA….Can they have it both ways?

  1. John M. Berger says:

    “So the Dreamers Act…DACA….was given back to Congress to make a decision”
    Yes, as it should be. However, this does beg a question: Given the performance of Congress, lately, is [it] capable of coming to any decision?

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  2. I love the Pelosi meme.

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    JMB, that’s the fear, isn’t it.

    Ed…no viewpoint on DACA or Trump’s treatment of it? The meme is good, isn’t it!

    I was with a high school sophomore this morning, Diego Rivera (not the artist!) and we spoke of DACA….He said people are worrried in his very Mexican community near USC …and that it started with Trump’s calling Mexicans rapists and drug dealers….

    I told him “You REALLY think America’s sending back 800,000 people? And do you really think Trump meant that? He often speaks off the cuff and it often doesn’t sound right, but there ARE Mexican rapists, and Mexican drug cartels as there are American rapists and drug cartels…we just have more control if we ban those here illegally and doing those things. What we all need to do is listen to Trump’s words and stop hearing how the activist media misconstrues so many of them.”

    He did nod his head, and I’m not sure he bought it, but I feel the more I say things like this, as someone I think they respect at school, the more they think about it…something MIGHT grey out in that black/white decision making mind of a teenager.

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  4. John M. Berger says:

    BTW, great graphic; I sent it to many.

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  5. geeez2014 says:

    Everybody: Please pray for Mexico and the 8.1 earthquake…it was offshore but shallow and 32 people have died….that is one STRONG earthquake.
    I’d ask for prayers for California against earthquakes but I have a hideous suspicion what some of you might say.
    Watching FOX and CNN last night, I marveled that every Congressman from California that was interviewed, and there were about 5 during the evening, was a Republican, by the way. Go figure.

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  6. -FJ says:

    There, you had it BOTH ways! 😉

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  7. geeez2014 says:

    FJ…cute song…but that flamer supposedly interviewing Conway is scary…..in every way, but mostly that people will actually think it’s real. I think some of our new technology is VERY counterproductive and this is one of them though it was funny….
    Yes, both ways…
    But I don’t think you could miss my drift…..

    Trump talked BIG against illegals during the campaign….but I get the distinct feeling he’s all for DACA now….After I read my post, I thought maybe I’m wrong in saying he sees it both ways….I think he actually doesn’t want to get rid of THEM, but wanted to do his JOB and kick this back to Congress on that date it was supposed to be overturned. I think that’s the right thing to do. Still, was it proper for him to say , basically, “If Congress doesn’t pass this, I’ll do it?” Was that from his heart or political expediency to go easy on Hispanics?
    And is that a risk he can take when his base is NOT taking this well?

    He needs to emphasize he wants ONLY legal immigration even if he DOES declare these 800K kids can stay but have to earn this privilege somehow. Some leftwing news is saying that repealing DACA means their all becoming instant citizens but that is NOT the case. Some are saying it’s a pathway to staying here but they need to apply like everybody else for citizenship…And they pull on heartstrings of libs when they say they’re soldiers and cops, and I get that….

    I suppose it’s almost like saying a soldier can’t vote but can die…..A “dreamer’ considers himself American because he’s been here all his life, but he can’t be American?

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  8. -FJ says:

    Let’s just say this… if Trump ended it, Trump would have been the Grinch. He kicks it to Congress, and says he wants to save it, but DACA’s temporary, Congress HAS to act if it’s to become permanent. AT the same time, he expresses his hope that they will. SO if Congress passes it, Trump’s a hero. If they don’t, he has two options. Continue it, or kill it. ANd if he kills it, who’s the “bad guy” now?

    Politics.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    FJ…EXCELLENT overview…and I TOTALLY agree.
    If he kills it, it’ll be really REALLY bad for him…but happy for his most solid followers.

    FJ, what do YOU think Congress should/will do? And do you think they have time? Was it six months he gave them?

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  10. -FJ says:

    I think they’ll pass it, but Trump will refuse to sign it w/o his “poison pill”… the WALL.

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  11. Mal says:

    I think the left probably expected Trump to play hard ball with DACA so they could pounce on him, but when he gave it to Congress to make the decision, they were silenced…..for a change! It also graphically points out the difference between the two administrations.
    Sometimes I think Trump must feel like Rodney Dangerfield……He “can’t get no respect.”

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    OOOOH….THAT’S INTERESTING. But MAN, talk about a double-edged sword for Hispanics! “Yes, you can stay here…No, we are NOT forgetting about the wall” HOLY COW.
    Now THAT IS having it both ways 🙂

    Not sure it’s a ‘win-win’…His bigger fans will hate the signing of DACA and Hispanics will love it….his fans will love the wall and HHispanics will hate it.
    Thankfully, so far, only his fans vote………..legally, anyhow!

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, they’ve not been silent…they actually knocked him for passing it to Congress, for not signing it there and then …….but, you’re right….things would have gone FAR worse had he just plain killed it.

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  14. John M. Berger says:

    If it takes a “wall” or some form(s) of barrier to make our border impervious to ILLEGAL entry, so be it. What ever happened to the concept of securing our border [before] addressing any sort of massive deportation? As it is, however, I see where Trump had little choice but to hand the “Dreamer” issue to Congress. If “Hispanics” are un-happy with the US having a secure border I say

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  15. John M. Berger says:

    MY COMMENT ABOVE PRINTED BEFORE I COULD FINISH

    If it takes a “wall” or some form(s) of barrier to make our border impervious to ILLEGAL entry, so be it. What ever happened to the concept of securing our border [before] addressing any sort of massive deportation? As it is, however, I see where Trump had little choice but to hand the “Dreamer” issue to Congress. If “Hispanics” are un-happy with the US having a secure border I say TOO BAD!

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  16. Kid says:

    The defecrats take credit for anything good that happens and blame all negatives on the republicans.
    It’s what they do. Plus they All have disgusting tattoos. And they smell.

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  17. Kid says:

    Trump is a quick learner imo. He’s going to play Congress like a violin – especially after Lyin Ryan and McChuckles get voted Out in 2018.

    FJ – Agree. The wall (and more) is going to happen.

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  18. Mal says:

    “Plus they all have disgusting tattoos. And they smell.”
    Yeah. And their mother dresses ’em funny!

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  19. Kid says:

    Can’t argue with that MAL. Not in Cincinnati anyway. YUK.

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  20. FJ nailed it.
    So did Kid and Mal.

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  21. -FJ says:

    Two steps forward, one step back… 😉

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-bolling-fox-news-202943118.html

    I liked Bolling…sorry to see him go.
    So…wait…are only FOX employees drunks (Gregg Jarrett) and perverts or philanderers(Eric and Ed Harris)? Or is it just the Right that the Left investigates close enough to get rid of them one by one?
    Ya, I know the answer.

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  23. John M. Berger says:

    “I liked Bolling…sorry to see him go.”
    Me too! Also I liked the economist , Charles Payne. Gone, gone !!! I think there’s something fishy about this. Who’s next?

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    JMB: That’s RIGHT! I forgot Payne, too, had a scandal.
    This is IMPOSSIBLE….O’Reilly, too…They tried to get Hannity but Hannity fought back and won pretty quickly.
    This is, in my humble opinion, Soros-backed; lots of money finding any little thing they can get on conservatives. Look at the Yahoo homepage sometime..they headlines are astonishing…they even mention things like how Melania’s dress wasn’t made in America when Trump was speaking about making sure things are made here. Who checks DRESSES?
    I can’t read their headlines anymore………one after the other of THE most ridiculous nothing things…made BIG in their freakin’ headlines. Awful stuff

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  25. geeez2014 says:

    BY the way, I read today that some “top 50 dressers” or something was put out today…Michelle Obama was on it, Melania Trump wasn’t.
    REALLY? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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  26. geeez2014 says:

    They’re cancelling FOX NEWS SPECIALISTS…Bolling’s old show. Sad, that Black lawyer, Eboni something-or-other, was very fair and very good. She’s left-leaning but one of those amazingly rare smart liberals who actually THINKS and loves this country and doesn’t hold all leftwing opinions…her mom’s a conservative.
    I’m not a fan of that blonde Kat whatever-her-name is, but I will miss Eboni and hope they use her elsewhere on FOX>

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  27. John M. Berger says:

    “Eboni something-or-other, was very fair and very good. She’s left-leaning but one of those amazingly rare smart liberals who actually THINKS and loves this country”

    WHAT, She is one of my favorites! Is FOX dismantling everything? NOW WHAT?

    Please delete the two things that I’ve, identified as not intended.

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  28. geeez2014 says:

    JMB…Yes, the whole show’s apparently cancelled…Isn’t Eboni good…particularly for a self-proclaimed LIB?>!

    I deleted those comments….weird, because they did come from your email address…weird !:-)

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  29. Dave Drake says:

    “Donald W Bush” — that’s good. Really damn good. Wish I’da thought of it.

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  30. Mal says:

    As for Milania’s dresses not being made in the U.S., remember when Trump was being interviewed before the election and his tie was mentioned as being made abroad also? Well, that is exactly what Trump was alluding to: Bringing manufacturing and jobs back here because its hard to find clothes made here anymore. End of argument. The left just shot themselves down…..again!

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  31. Kid says:

    MAL, If only a few of them would realize it. Personally, I blame clothing coming from out of country on climate change…

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  32. Mal says:

    Why not, Kid. They blame everything else on climate change, don’t they?

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  33. Kid says:

    Now that you mrntion it, let’s blame EVERYTHING on climate change and make them so embarrassed to even bring up the subject again. If it’s possible to embarrass them which is doubtful actually.

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