WEINSTEIN….your thoughts?

 

I don’t think I could possibly care less about Harvey Weinstein’s problems;  he’s so unattractive to me I can barely look at his pictures, the women he ‘raped’ all probably profited pretty darned well and put themselves in positions where they COULD get raped, let’s face it (and no, I do NOT blame women for most rapes but anybody heard of a casting couch?), his young wife married him and you think she didn’t know he’s a pervert?…AND NOW…he’s been fired from his own company and he’s being ousted from the  Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences because of his sexual goings-on over the years.

Meryl Streep is a great friend, Hillary’s a great friend, Judy Dench is a close friend…etc etc…The New York Times exposed his decades of secret sexual harassment settlements and nobody knew?  His wife didn’t know that?  They didn’t KNOW?

HERE IS MY POINT;   WHO CARES?  Since when is Hollywood so up in arms over SEX?  Since when is Hollywood so outraged at someone showing no class?!  They still lionize the “Great Roman Polanski.”   HERE is Weinstein’s view of Polanski,  who gave pills to a 13 year old so he could have sex with her!

BUT:  must we strip people of professional involvements and fire them for their screwed up sex lives?  Anybody want to bet that other executives in that business and others haven’t settled many sexual harassment suits?

I’m serious here….I’m not sure I’d fire him, not sure I’d strip him of professional membership…he is a BAD GUY.  People let him get away with it.   Chastise him, personally shun him, but …this?

What do you guys think?

Z

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34 Responses to WEINSTEIN….your thoughts?

  1. bocopro says:

    The behavior of which Weinstein is accused has been going on in Hollyweird for decades. I’ve never been much interested in the libidos of movie producers or TV execs or any people with power except for one point: get caught and it’s immediate castration, preferably with blunt instruments.

    What bothers me more about it is the smug wink-and-a-nod hypocrisy that goes on, such as with Her Rotten Heinousness condemning a sitting PotUS for unproven allegations of groping while remaining married to a serial rapist and throwing HIS accusers under the bus.

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  2. ” The New Yorker[3] reported that more than a dozen women accused Weinstein of sexually harassing, assaulting, or raping them. Many other women in the film industry subsequently reported similar experiences with Weinstein,[43] who denied any non-consensual sex. As a result of these accusations, Weinstein was fired from his production company[44], expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences,[4] his wife Georgina Chapman left him,[45] and leading figures in politics whom he had supported denounced him.[46]”

    I thought that [rape] as well as other accusations, made here, were against the law. So where are the [criminal] indictments? Moreover, I find “Hollyweird” to be a disgusting microcosm of today’s Left as my interest in the products coming from there wanes at warp-speed!

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  3. Well, John and Bo had great comments.
    If you don’t strip his awards, you end up with another Polanski, celebrated for his contributions, but not castigated for his crimes.

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  4. bunkerville says:

    Women did report it and the NY D.A. Cyrus Vance did nothing. Does anyone really think this is limited to Hollyweird? Its the way the game is played and up to now everyone for the most part were willing players. The victorian age passed and testosterone laden males and over achieving women lost their moral compass.

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  5. “Does anyone really think this is limited to Hollyweird?”
    Sadly, NO!

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  6. Many knew — and, as you said Z, went on to profit from their consent.

    I haven’t been particularly interested in following the story, but a friend sent me this, which changed my interest level…

    The Human Stain: Why the Harvey Weinstein Story Is Worse Than You Think.

    Please read this article.

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  7. One excerpt from the article to which I referred above:

    of course people knew about Harvey Weinstein. Like the New York Times, for instance. Sharon Waxman, a former reporter at the Times, writes in The Wrap how she had the story on Weinstein in 2004—and then he bullied the Times into dropping it. Matt Damon and Russell Crowe even called her directly to get her to back off the story. And Miramax was a major advertiser. Her editor at the Times, Jonathan Landman, asked her why it mattered. After all, he told Waxman, “he’s not a publicly elected official.”

    Manhattan’s district attorney knew, too. In 2015, Weinstein’s lawyer donated $10,000 to the campaign of Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance after he declined to file sexual assault charges against the producer….

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  8. Then, there’s also this:

    Fox News reporter Lauren Sivan told Huffington Post that a decade ago, Weinstein masturbated in front of her. She says she didn’t say anything at the time, when she was an anchor on a local cable show, because she was “fearful of the power that Weinstein wielded in the media.” She was right and her fear was understandable.

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  9. Elmers Brother says:

    I think the ironic part you’re describing is that they’re applying an objective moral standard that they’ve all rejected. They don’t care about morality here, they care about virtue signalling.

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  10. geeez2014 says:

    Elmer’s Brother is the winner (!) and I had that opinion, too: THEY CARE ABOUT VIRTUE SIGNALLING. Suddenly, everybody’s upset about MORALITY?
    And nobody loses their job for their indiscretions but THIS JERK?
    Elbro, I had a paragraph I removed before publishing it and it was about Brad Pitt…he threatened Weinstein for coming on to his girlfriend at the time… Gwyneth Paltrow. What a GREAT WAY FOR FREE PUBLICITY and making himself look like a tough guy who doesn’t approve of this stuff. GIVE ME A BREAK.

    But I’ve never been much for firing people or stripping them of anything for nauseating behavior….as I said in my piece; chide him, don’t work for him (think women would stop? of course not!), etc.

    I think it’d be worse for Weinstein to stay IN Hollywood today………..IF these people really mean it in their indignation. (which I don’t believe)

    Let him stay and then let America see how Hollywood truly doesn’t care…

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    AOW, this part in your Weekly Std article made me smile because I’ve shared my sentiment below it several times here : “Rebecca Traister says the stories are coming out now because “our consciousness has been raised.” Between Bill Cosby and Roger Ailes, Bill O’Reilly, and Donald Trump, argues Traister, people are now accustomed to speaking and hearing the truth about famous, sexually abusive men.”

    Isn’t it just perfectly astonishing that most sexually abusive men are REPUBLICANS (especially if they work at FOX? 🙂
    It probably slipped her mind about Wiener and Clinton, right? 🙂 🙂

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/style/harvey-weinstein-reportedly-forced-felicity-134405346.html

    So he also ‘pressured’ famous successful women into wearing dresses his wife had designed? Or he’d not back their films?
    Man, imagine what he threatened for SEX?!

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  13. Mustang says:

    It is hard for me to make a distinction between Weinstein and Bill Clinton, who most Americans continue to adore. This speaks volumes about American society.

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  14. bocopro says:

    Information exists in various places which suggest that more than male-on-female rape goes on in that decadent, miasmic, self-worshiping, cult-generating, walled sanctum of immorality and depravity.

    Noisy burps of noxious gases rise above the slime from time to time and release their unwholesome stench of human trafficking, child pornography, pedophilia, substance abuse, and other degenerate pastimes.

    If you have a couple hours to waste and want to be disgusted and disillusioned, go here:

    https://vimeo.com/142444429

    The film is a bit tedious and repetitive, and by no means surprising to me. I mean, after all, I’m a straight white male who did 24 years in the Navy, stands for morning and evening colors, opens doors for ladies, watches his language in mixed company, and has been married to the same woman for over 55 years, so I’m obviously intellectually unqualified to comment on the morals of the rich and famous, including Klintoons and Soetoros . . . of BOTH genders.

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  15. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang…exactly.

    Bocopro..the sad thing is that ‘more than male-on-female rape” goes on in more than Hollywood.

    I wish I did have a couple of hours to waste….maybe later! Thanks.

    EVERYBODY: Here’s a wild one, totally true; A friend’s son was hiking up in California somewhere when he tried to open an old outdoor bathroom in the woods….this friend’s son was with a tour group of hikers…..he knocked on the shed and a guy said he was in there and he was told “it’s President OBAMA”…Sure enough…Obama comes out, shakes his hand, Michelle shows up, and they talk to the tour group…..
    OBAMAS CAMP!? that cracked me up….this happened, I believe, in the last week!

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  16. Elmers Brother says:

    John Edwards

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  17. Mal says:

    What Bocopro mentioned about H’s excuse of her husband, she said “that was in the past. We’re talking about today” (Trump). She has selective reasoning, doesn’t she?
    Between Weinstein and Colin Kaepernick, they’re destroying two major entertainments: film and sports, and I say “YIPPEE!”. Good riddance

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  18. Elmers Brother says:

    I agree Z, I don’t think firing solves the issue, it only saves some facade of credibility. Again, what’s the moral basis for their outrage? For the firing?
    It’s the same way they treat Trump and you know I’m no yuge fan of Trump

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  19. Mal says:

    As an aside, for all Veterans, retired military or not, according to an email I received from the head of our Veteran’s Club here in Sun City, ALL VETERANS ARE NOW ENTITLED TO SHOP ONLINE OR IN PERSON AT THE BX/PX.
    You get tax free shopping, name brand products, and military pricing.
    Check it out, guys (and gals!).

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  20. MAL,
    Thanks; do you have a link?

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  21. geeez2014 says:

    REALLY FABULOUS TRUMP IMPROMPTU PRESSER TODAY; I hope some of you saw it.

    Shep Smith of FOX directly afterwards “But the president can’t know that because he hasn’t layed out who’s middle class, etc.”
    AND MY FAVE

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    AND MY FAVE: “President Trump just said this XXXX (whatever it was) right now…but it’s NOT TRUE”
    jerk Auditioning for CNN?

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  23. Mal says:

    John, I forwarded it to Z to forward to you (I’m not sure how!). I believe if you simply google it, you’d get all the info, though.

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, one reason I didn’t post it is all I had is an image of a young man and words below it…no link…
    .

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  25. Mal says:

    John, I just checked and there are a whole bunch of sites explaining it. All they need is a copy of your DD214 (discharge) to get it.

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  26. Mal says:

    That’s right, Z. Thats all I had, also. But you really don’t need a link. I believe if he goes to a PX with his papers (DD214) he’ll get in and receive a card for the future. We have Nellis AFB about 8 miles down the freeway from us to go to. I plan on it in the near future. I was there once with a neighbor (retired Colonel) but now I’ll be able to go on my own.

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  27. Mal says:

    John, I found the web site by zooming in on the picture. its shopmyexchange.com. I tried it and it works!

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  28. Mal says:

    It becomes effective Nov. 11th I just found out.

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  29. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I think it’s wonderful that you’re alerting our vets! THANK YOU!

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  30. Mustang says:

    @ Mal … Ditto! Semper Fi.

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  31. Baysider says:

    It looks like his brother wanted him out – possibly for good reason. Between Mustang and Elmer’s Brother, what more can be said?

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  32. Jersey Jack says:

    Once again the rapaciousness and greed of the ruling tribe gets another black eye and feeds the stereotype of Lehman Brothers, Metro Goldwyn Mayer, Bernie Madoff, Weinstein, Bloombergs, Marc Mezvinsky and father, Goldman Sachs, MF Global and Corzine’s missing billions and lone non tribe member who btw… refused to release his income tax return records and all have one thing else in common…all Democrats.
    One more stain on the legacy of militant monetary “brilliance”. This is the true elephant in the room.

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