Sunday Faith Blog

STORIES LIKE THIS make me realize America’s in bigger trouble than even we thought.

Please pray for this man…….he deserves and needs it.

Here is the good news update:  

Back in December 2015, a federal court in Atlanta handed Kelvin Cochran an important legal victory.  The court ruled that Chief Cochran’s suit against the City of Atlanta, which unjustly fired him because of his religious beliefs, will go forward.

This is great news. But there’s still a long, difficult legal battle ahead.

However………..the very fact that he could have been prosecuted at ALL is insane…and deserves our prayers.

“Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.”  1 John 313

 

Have a beautiful Sunday…pray for America.

Z

 

 

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19 Responses to Sunday Faith Blog

  1. John M. Berger says:

    Let me get this straight: “In his book, he briefly discusses the Bible’s teaching that sex is reserved for marriage between one man and one woman.” If I read this correctly the operative word is “discussed”. For this he got fired IN A RED STATE? Yes, you are right “America’s in bigger trouble than even we thought.” Of course, I’d like him to prevail in further legal proceedings to include a healthy settlement!

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  2. Mustang says:

    It seems very odd to me that we have not heard any news from this lawsuit since October 2015 … over two years. I could not find additional information. I could not determine whether Cochran was drawing his fireman’s pension. I certainly do not mind making a contribution to his cause, but I’m not willing to do that if there is no updated information about the case, or if I cannot determine the scope of his need.

    All that aside, Cochran alleges that Atlanta fired him because of his religious beliefs … but we do not know any of the facts of this case; we only know the allegations. If Cochran was pushing his book within the Fire Department, if he was proselytizing during duty hours, if he was making his subordinates feel uncomfortable by preaching to them, and if in the doing of this his employees felt they were obligated to sit and listen, then these things alone could be very problematic in court —particularly so if the city had warned him to stop harassing his firemen, and Cochran ignored such warning.

    Do you have any more information about this case?

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    JMB…terrible, isn’t it.

    Mustang, the link indicates his exemplary service…I doubt that he only suddenly became such a religious zealot as to start proselytizing during duty hours? That has been written about in older articles. The update is here in my post…things are going his way, but they still need help as the case isn’t quite over.
    I strongly doubt they’d fire him because of religious beliefs, considering he didn’t come to those beliefs until he wrote the book. Clearly, he hadn’t pushed anything before that or he’d not have been promoted….that’s my take on it, anyway.
    Wow, maybe you can find some more information saying he had harassed? I have never heard a word about that.

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  4. Mustang. Agreed.
    JMB, Atlanta.

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  5. geeez2014 says:

    I often am reminded of Robert Byrd of W VA when I hear stories like this, or about Roy Moore, ….here was a Klan RECRUITER for years, and it was forgotten, airports and bridges named after him.
    Worth pondering.

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  6. geeez2014 says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_J._Cochran
    The worst the anti-Conservative, Anti-Christian Wikipedia could come up was that this man distributed his new book to the firemen. I’m thinking I’d have done the same thing if I wrote a book! And, of course,….they could say “No, thanks!”

    I’m thinking it’s always good to step back and get facts …I’m glad I looked. Probably, there were OUTRAGED atheist firemen who were horrified to “have to read” the book! 🙂 Ed, can you find any articles that you believe…believe more than Cochran? I’d want to see those because I don’t think anybody’d support someone pushing beliefs of ANY type on anyone.
    thanks

    Just did even more vetting…it appears he was let go just for having written a book which said homosexuality was a perversion. Whether we think it is or not, I’m thinking he has every right.
    If they made that part of the Fire Dept rules, I’d not only fire him but throw him in jail.

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  7. Baysider says:

    This is what I remember reading when the case first came to light: “The City of Atlanta has tried to pass it off as an ethics violation, saying that a book that Cochran wrote and self-published – on his own time, to support his men’s Bible study at church – required the Mayor’s permission.” According to an editorial in the WSJ.

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  8. Mal says:

    It would be interesting to know if he would’ve been fired had he been White.
    Just sayin’.

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  9. z says:

    baysider…that isnt6 mentioned in today’s articles on this but if that’s the law I’m amazed a man seemingly this good wouldn’t follow that law….not that I agree with that…maybe I’m more Libertarian than some

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  10. John M. Berger says:

    PC claims one more victim!

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  11. Baysider says:

    As one pundit said, ‘do you think he would have been fired if his book was firehouse recipes’? Nope. Many employers require vetting of material published relative to their company (e.g. ex-FBI agents). That’s entirely valid. Not this.

    HERETICS WILL BE PUNISHED (National Review). “When he started writing, he asked … the City’s ethics officer whether there were any ethical or regulatory problems with a city employee’s writing a “non-work-related, faith-based book.” He claims that Hickson told him that so long as the subject matter of the book did not deal with the “city government or fire department,” he was cleared to write it.”

    Clearly, they are targeting anyone in authority, anyone that matters for possessing views differing with the subculture that is running all the HR departments now. (Where do you think those lefty ethnic studies majors land – yes, a lot in the HR depts. of big companies where they both fulfill quotas and create a work environment hostile to traditional mainstream culture.)

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, that’s how I see it…this isn’t his career bailiwick, it’s HIM, it’s his beliefs. He’s apparently never forced them on anybody…Heck, if I did a book on Kamasutra and had nuns for friends, I’d probably give it to them just cuz I WROTE IT…LOOK AT MEEE! 🙂

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  13. Bob says:

    From http://www.firehouse.com/news/12037760/cochran-files-federal-suit-claiming-religious-discrimination .

    “Mayor Kasim Reed fired Cochran over his distribution of his book, which condemns homosexual acts as “vile, vulgar and inappropriate,” at work.”

    “Mayor Kasim Reed fired Cochran over his distribution of his book, which condemns homosexual acts as “vile, vulgar and inappropriate,” at work.”

    Kassim Reed and the City Council are radical Democrats, and Chochran”s book attacked a sacred cow of Democrat Liberalism, homosexuality. This is just more identity politics. The outcome depends on the political party of the judge.

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  14. Bob says:

    Mal: The Atlanta firechief will probably never be white. That’s a thing of the past. The Atlanta City Government is as racist as you can get, plus, blacks make up a majority demographic in the City of Atlanta. in 2010 blacks made up 54% of the population. If you are white it is almost impossible to get a City of Atlanta government job, or so I have heard.

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  15. Bob says:

    As a matter of fact it is almost impossible for a white person to get a government job in Atlanta, or Fulton County. Here are some numbers back to 2013. As you can see, there’s little racial diversity in the City of Atlanta government or that of Fulton County where Atlanta is the County Seat.

    Atlanta
    Workforce
    Total: 7,380
    White: 22.6 percent
    Black: 74 percent
    Hispanic: 1.8 percent
    Asian: 1.3 percent
    Population
    Total: 432,427
    White: 38.4 percent
    Black: 54 percent
    Hispanic: 5.2 percent
    Asian: 3.1 percent

    Fulton County
    Workforce
    Total: 5,475
    White: 14 percent
    Black: 83 percent
    Hispanic: 1.5 percent
    Asian: 1.4 percent
    Population
    Total: 977,773
    White: 47.5 percent
    Black: 44.5 percent
    Hispanic: 8.1 percent
    Asian: 5.8 percent

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  16. geeez2014 says:

    Bob, what sad information…thanks for printing it here…it’s important to know.

    As for Cochran, the very idea that his beliefs got him fired astonishes me. Okay, he gave books to his coworkers, and that probably did get some people ticked off, but then WHY CAN’T LIBERALS JUST NOT READ SOMETHING, OR NOT ATTEND A LECTURE…why do they have to freak out and sue?

    Cochran’s suit is right…and , as you can see in my post, it looks like it’s going well for him finally, but there’s apparently more going to happen….it’ll be interesting to see.

    Remember that WOman’s March recently, where stupid women were wearing pink vaginas on their heads…? All over the country? They made it clear that women who were not pro choice COULD NOT march with them. Shouldn’t they sue? Shouldn’t those women kept from any gathering for their beliefs SUE? But they didn’t. They’re Conservatives, mostly, they figure “well, okay..that’s not right, but okay”..

    Seems like there’s a similarity here… maybe I’m wrong.

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  17. John M. Berger says:

    “Remember that WOman’s March recently, where stupid women were wearing pink vaginas on their heads…? All over the country? They made it clear that women who were not pro choice COULD NOT march with them.”

    Why would normal women want to march with “women (who) were wearing pink vaginas on their heads”?

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  18. Baysider says:

    JMB: Bingo!

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  19. Mal says:

    ……….or anywhere else, John!

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