Immigrant Children, Father’s Day and the Trump Children:

Yesterday, I was thinking about Father’s Day and it occurred to me that the Trump kids would mention their father in some public acknowledgment of the holiday, then I thought about if the media’d even insult something as well-meaning as their Father’s Day wishes.    Took me 3 seconds, literally, to Google and find THIS and others….like these (for those of you who can’t open Yahoo and cause me to have to find other sites with the same info because of it! YOU know who you are, Kid! :-)):

“One response to the tweet read, “2 dads being investigated by the FBI. Great indeed.”

“Another said, “What do you get a father who’s about to be imprisoned?”

“People in the comments weren’t so sure about the amazing part, in light of the current administration’s policies. A former Walmart in Brownsville Texas is housing immigrant children who’ve been separated from their parents, and there has been plenty of backlash about the conditions there. “

“One person wrote, “Heartless, disgusting hypocrites. Special place in hell for you ‘Christians.’ These families are humans trying to make a better life for their children.”

“Another said, “Yet he tears apart families.”

“Amazing Father’s do not rip children away from their mothers and fathers. You are a disgrace,” wrote yet another.”

I’m not sure if people who make these comments want Ivanka and Jared to dump their kids into immigration holding areas so everybody’s treated the same?  I’m not sure if people who are saying these things NOW are aware Obama started this program, or that even articles I just found saying HE DID IT, TOO!, exonerate him because the misery of those under Obama’s regime was a sad unplanned circumstance but “Trump’s plan of separating kids is done on purpose as a deterrent” (thanks, Jeff Sessions…that was YOUR call and shouldn’t have been mentioned.)

WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE RIGHT THING TO DO WITH IMMIGRANT CHILDREN?  We know some are used as shills by Hispanic men whose children they are NOT, we know some parents are jeopardizing the lives of these children by using coyotes to bring them across, we know it’s tough and sad for any child to be taken from their parents!, we know Obama did much the same thing, and we know our own criminals’ children are separated from their parents, so:

LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS…FIRE AWAY!

(and Kid, you can fire away at ME :-))
Z

 

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40 Responses to Immigrant Children, Father’s Day and the Trump Children:

  1. How many of these parents carried their kids through the desert or packed them in the cargo van and nearly killed them, and themselves, to bring them here?

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  2. Kid says:

    I expect people to abide by the law and suffer the consequences when they don’t. I agree with Trump, the democrats could have fixed this but they haven’t so fare and no one cared when they were doing the same things, actually putting them in cages under obama. This is the media and the left as a while tyring to play the emotion card.

    Taking the most compassionate view I can muster, I still have to realize there are at least 2 billion people who would love to live in ‘American poverty’. A billion from India alone. Life sucks for the majority there. Then Russia, the vast majroity live in effeciency apartments in huge apartment blocks… So where do you draw the line because 2 billion coming here would just turn the place into a S*hole.

    I won’t engage libtards, just try to put out accurate information and let people live like mushrooms if they want. (In the dark and growing in manure)

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    Ed, that’s why I mentioned coyotes and jeopardizing their kids in my post…absolutely, kids are the ones who suffer the most, at the hands of their parents, not US.

    Kid, you say “I still have to realize there are at least 2 billion people who would love to live in ‘American poverty’.” and it made me shudder because, at first, I read it differently…I read it that you meant they’d like to live HERE in the poverty their illegal immigration could cause in America …which WE and OUR KIDS would have to live in….Liberals say illegals don’t cause any problems to our economy but I can’t imagine that’s the case….not when I know personally of two hospitals in just one area in AZ which are closing due to the heavy weight of treating unpaying illegals.

    ALL: I’m so tired of hearing alternate ‘facts’ about this subject and many more.
    “illegals put economic pressure on our economy”
    “Illegals do jobs Americans won’t do”
    “Illegals all need asylum”

    ETC. WHich the HECK IS IT??!!! On those subjects and MORE and until Americans STOP spouting anything that supports their side and not FACTS, then what?? WHERE ARE THE FACTS??!!!

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  4. Kid says:

    Z, Yea, I scanned the media for today’s information and noticed several stories on the illegal’s children and saw a wide variety of conclusions from even reasonable looking outlets, including ‘there is no law that requires separation of kids from parents..

    I have to laugh when I remember Jack Webb on Dragnet saying “Just the facts ma’am’. Like anyone has the facts.

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  5. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, well….let’s see the law….Trump drops the ball when he doesn’t present all of the background material.

    Mrs. Bush has now tweeted highly against the separation of kids from families…….insultingly, in my opinion.

    LET’S ALL FACE SOMETHING HERE; THESE PEOPLE WANT OPEN BORDERS…THIS ISN’T ONLY ABOUT SEPARATING FAMILIES. THEY’RE BREAKING THE LAWS!!! THEY MAYBE SHOULDN’T BE SEPARATED BUT THIS IS A GREAT SMOKESCREEN FOR THE FACT THAT THE WHOLE FAMILY SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY DEPORTED!!

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  6. Took me 3 seconds, literally, to Google and find THIS and others….like these

    How weary I grow of this IRRATIONAL hatred of President Trump — and his family.

    As for this immgrant-children-being-persecuted thing, it’s some kind of scam to keep harping on it as the Never Trumpers and Dems do.

    If these Latinos from below the border wish to be deems asylees, they should be coming through a checkpoint — not willy nilly.

    I also suspect that a lot of these children don’t belong to “their parents.” How fast can DNA be tested for that?

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  7. Analogy: if one wishes to enter a shopping mall, one must go through the proper doors — not break out shop windows and enter that way.

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  8. Speaking of Laura Bush, Z, did you notice that Laura Bush wrote an opinion piece for the WaPo? Same insulting theme. And so damn self-righteous. Sheesh.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    AOW, I did hear about the Laura Bush thing…I commented above but I thought it was a tweet….
    I just don’t understand the fact that nobody’s blaming the IMMIGRANTS!!!! Instead, it’s ALL TRUMP’S FAULT….
    I like your analogy………

    Even ol’ Beauregard Sessions made a LOT of sense this morning at a conference he addressed…he lays the law out, he’s right. Apparently, MS-13 killers are hiding by bringing children who aren’t there with him like “the innocent father”….how we can’t tell from killer tattooes, etc., that they’re NOT innocent fathers is beyond ME but nobody asks ME 🙂

    See, the children are all called “Innocent”, which they ARE, but WHO IS ABUSING THEM? Also, the care they’re given is NOT in CAGES (as it was under Obama) it’s caring….

    IF WE HAD A WALL, THIS WOULDN’T BE HAPPENING. Trump’s point is the wall would PREVENT families from being broken up. WHO THE HELL CAN’T UNDERSTAND THAT LOGIC?

    LEFTWINGERS.

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  10. Jack says:

    Yesterday…25,000,000 black kids said…Who? What? Where is he?
    And all we care about are illegals.

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    Facebook, by an acquaintance who works full time; her husband is a stay-at-home and her 2 little girls are raised by Dad:

    “On Mondays I am always sad to leave my girls. I get to see them all weekend and miss them terribly when I go to work. The thing is, I leave them of my own free will and they are in places where they are loved and well cared for. I am no more a criminal for doing this than these parents are for trying to do better for their families. Join me in doing something about what is happening at our border. See the link below for lots of ideas, but may I suggest specifically that you contact your elected officials. Bills have been proposed that just need a few more votes on board.”

    Yes, they’re very liberal ……

    BY THE WAY….WHAT “ASYLUM” are Central Americans coming for? Asylum from…???

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  12. Mal says:

    I’m really disappointed with what Laura Bush said. I like her because she was always dressed nicely and well mannered. A true lady. She wasn’t thinking correctly on this, however, because she wasn’t considering Obama started this practice, not Trump, and because the left keeps fighting Trumps very generous offer for DACA. He is using the only tool he can to get the job done, but the left doesn’t really want a solution……..till THEY can do it and take the credit. Meanwhile, Obama is laughing his a– off with what the mess he intentionally created and those on the left still haven’t got it and may never.

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    By the way…I wonder if my acquaintance considers HER DAUGHTERS and how they feel about not having her with them all day. I wonder if she’d go to work if she did. I wonder if illegals might just NOT come here if they realize they will be separated when they break our laws?

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  14. Mustang says:

    The issue of children being separated from their illegal alien parents is an emotional smoke-screen. If we are honest, then we can admit that these illegal persons aren’t victims; they are perpetrators. The victims are the American people, who by virtue of their birth or other status, are being raped by failed federal and state policies that encourage illegal immigration. For a good understanding of the costs of illegal immigration, see Spencer Morrison’s discussion (https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/10/01/economics-illegal-immigration-everything-need-know/) and follow the money. In summary, in terms of real money, the cost breakdown is as follows: federal expenditures on illegal immigration, $46 billion; State and local costs, $89 billion. Do illegal aliens pay taxes? Yes, totaling $19 billion … which leaves a shortfall (out of pocket to the US taxpayer) of $115 billion annually.

    There are other costs, as well … such as the costs associated with decreased wages and increased unemployment. Added to this, we should consider opportunity costs. What could we be spending money on instead of illegal immigration? We might begin with improvements to infrastructure, which in two years from now will amount to a deficit of $3.6 trillion. If these numbers are too big to get your head around, then consider the costs of illegal immigration to the states: In California, illegal immigration costs the taxpayer $30.3 billion each year, which is just under 20% of California’s annual budget. In Texas, expenditures on illegal aliens is roughly 10% of the state budget. New Yorkers are spending in excess of $7 billion annually to pay for people who reside in that state illegally. Finally, how much money do illegal aliens send to their families back home each year? $38 billion. Money leaving the USA amounts to money that we can’t use here at home to pay people an honest wage—it’s a hidden tax.

    So, if we are worried about victims (and children are always a favorite topic to roll out), then why aren’t we worried about the real victims of illegal immigration?

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  15. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, right. The big argument the Left loves is “Obama deported more than any administration!” As if he was tough on immigration when he was the one who abused Fast & Furious and went along with “Catch and Release!”

    NOBODY wants children separated from their parents, and the Left has found a story where a man apparently committed suicide because his kids were taken from him, and children who cry themselves to sleep, etc……..NOBODY wants these babies to hurt.

    Trump is hoping their parents don’t want that even more than WE do and will, as the DHS Sec said this morning, “Apply legally” so we can prevent these separations.

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  16. geeez2014 says:

    AOW, Yes, my point also was how nasty the media is to even Ivanka when she just says Happy Father’s Day to her own FAMILY!?

    Mustang, I fought on FB last night with a cousin who said it’s a MYTH that illegals cost us money! There’s no arguing with FACTS…it’s all EMOTION and this child situation is custom made for EMOTIONAL DOPES, isn’t it.

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG: I just linked at FB your article….To this comment from him “And ONLY convicted felons go to prison – period. I have spent my career working in both the produce and meat processing industries. I personally know the people picking the tomatoes and killing the chickens as well as the people that own these business. Ive had customers raided by ice here in Lancaster Pa. I am very aware of what these people bring to our society. I forgot to mention the mushroom industry – mostly illegals. Have you ever been in a commercial mushroom house? Try catching live chickens at 2 am or picking tomatoes in 95 degrees and humid. You should bless yor lucky stars these people take the risk to come here. And some think separating them from there children is humane.”

    WOULD Americans do this stuff? Maybe not……..
    Do ONLY Felons go to prison? I didn’t know that…

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  18. geeez2014 says:

    This morning, Sessions and Trump are reminding Americans that people are USING CHILDREN to get into America……..
    This is EMOTIONAL….the Left runs on EMOTION. And anti-Americanism.

    Seeing this from the Christian sites which are against the separation of kids..”MAN’S LAWS CANNOT MAKE MORAL WHAT GOD HAS DECLARED IMMORAL”

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  19. Kid says:

    Z, Americans would do those jobs if 1) They were not being paid to sit at home and 2) businesses were forced to improve conditions if they want Americans to work there . I question this person’s story. There are so many labor conditions laws on the books, it is hard to believe there are people ‘chasing chickens around at 2 am’. Who knows, we’ve all heard some horror stories, but my first two points should pretty much take care of that part.

    There are some nasty jobs though, usually done by young people and often no where near as hard as being in combat for example in the ME.

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  20. Kid says:

    Total emotion Z, as is all things democrat. When people have not been educated, emotion is all they have left. The democrats have worked hard to destroy education.

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  21. geeez2014 says:

    JERSEY JACK is having trouble posting…my site apparently thinks he’s already posted this! But he hasn’t, so I AM. (thanks Jack!)

    “Mrs. Bush has now tweeted highly against the separation of kids from families…….insultingly, in my opinion.”
    Pulll lease Laura..

    Funny…was she always ina kitchen making blueberry pies? Must be …cause then she’d know it was her hubby that started that program,Ovomit used it his entire 8 years as our one and only truly illegitimate potus…plus the fraudulent use of phony parents is up 315% AT THE BORDER CROSSINGS. Once more the dimwitted demrat followers suck it up like the same daytime soap opera dramas… not aware enough that the dems care not one damn for American citizens ( if their Dems, I don’t care about then either ) and continue to elevate the ILLEGALS above our own needs and citizens, even going so far as to shut the country down over illegals. Dems are evil, grotesque manure spewing POS that’d rather tell a lie even if the truth sounded better.

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    Jack also posted this but it wouldn’t post without my moderation…I just got notice of it in my emails! ???

    Anyway, this is regarding Father’s Day….and I believe it’s so valid and SO SAD!

    Yesterday…25,000,000 black kids said…Who? What? Where is he?
    And all we care about are illegals.

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  23. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, EXCELLENT point about health/employment laws and what that ‘friend’ wrote….I may fight back but I’m wearying of sparring with this jerk!!!

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, I TOOK SUCH JOY IN RESPONDING WITH THIS “And you have never told the law about these conditions? We have laws about temperatures people must work in, who’s ‘catching live chickens at 2 am’? Why aren’t these companies reported to the authorities!? Even commercial mushroom houses are under strict laws, or should be turned in. have you?”

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  25. geeez2014 says:

    JERSEY JACK makes a good point about Father’s Day, and it fits this argument about kids without parents….where are these same people when Black kids are born and raised without their fathers? Doesn’t the left CARE about THEM or is there no good way to slam Republicans that way?

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  26. Mustang says:

    @ Z

    Morrision loves to respond to that argument. He writes, “Liberals often justify their fetish for illegal immigration along economic lines, arguing that: “we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won’t do”, and “the economic benefits of illegal immigration outweigh the costs”. Of course, neither of these refrains rings true.

    “The first myth is easily debunked by the simple fact that America’s labor market is far from saturated. In fact, fewer than 150 million Americans (out of a population of 320 million) are employed—either part or full time. Furthermore, there are 23 million Americans currently looking for work, that is, twice the number of illegal aliens in the country. Even if we assume that every illegal aliens was employed, replacing them with American workers would still leave 11 million Americans unemployed.

    “Beyond the raw numbers, it is also patently false that “illegals do jobs Americans won’t do”—they simply cannot do them because they are out-competed with cheap illegal labor. If you read facts provided by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, you will find that millions of Americans —of all races— currently work as janitors, laborers, and agricultural workers. In fact, only four percent of American agricultural workers are illegal aliens, according to a report in the National Review, putting to bed the myth that we would starve without illegal laborers. Americans will do the jobs, provided they are paid a fair wage.”

    The individual you cited (above) is apparently too lazy to do independent research. As you say, these are all often repeated liberal myths. You have to wonder why some Americans are so pleased to see America fail.

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  27. Kid says:

    That angle also occurred to me later Z. They don’t want to see American’s doing this work, but have no problem with those ‘dirty Mexicans’ doing it?

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  28. bunkerville says:

    Someone tweeted what Laura Bush said decades ago, but alas, I let it sail along! Amazing isn’t it. Just as we are focused on the IG, this topic which has be dormant forever, now everyone is hysterical… love to know who planned this little number.

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  29. Mal Telloian says:

    Bunkerville, The distraction reminds me of “The Wizzard of Oz”….”Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”.

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  30. geeez2014 says:

    “You have to wonder why some Americans are so pleased to see America fail.”

    Mustang, this is the bottom line…I’ll never figure this one out. Ever. But that is the definition of LEFTWINGER.

    The guy hasn’t responded to me yet….but he’ll be mean, tough, and declare my info you helped with ‘a myth’…wait for it.

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  31. Baysider says:

    It turns out some of those ‘immigrant childrwn’ Pics dated from the Obama era.
    Terrible when children suffer because they parents were Trying to break into the country.

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  32. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, we’ve been talking about that….2014; kids in cages…sleeping…Obama.

    To watch CNN or MSNBC, you’d think nobody READS. Today reporters asked about the ‘kids in cages’ pictures at Sarah’s presser and she didn’t even correct them!

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  33. kid says:

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one. Many of these kids are actors, coached to tap the bleeding heart to maximum blood flow.

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  34. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, yes, some are saying this is the situation, and that MS-13 are using kids who aren’t theirs as shills to get in easily.

    I think Trump is playing this exactly right and his Sec of DHS was fabulous today.
    “Change the laws’, or SHUT UP

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  35. Baysider says:

    The answer is so obvious. They could put up compartments and keep families ALL together in DETENTION. Then … no separation. And no whining. Sorry, I couldn’t read all comments before. I was on my phone waiting at the car dealer.

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  36. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, or just come in at the legal entries……then they’re kept together, no separation, right?
    ALL Trump is saying “Change the laws if you don’t like this..”
    The Sec of DHS did quite well today……wish I could remember some of the lines she used. excellent.
    We are NOT a dumping ground for foreigners, we can’t be. Time to grow up and follow America’s laws

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  37. jerrydablade says:

    I have just signed up for Hilery (sic) Clinton’s Bible study group and I have learned to be outraged at Trump single-handedly ripping illegal alien families apart. I have also learned to ignore other forms of family separation perpetuated by the left that Jesus apparently supported. Namely: Planned Parenthood aborts about 320,000 unborn babies a year, or about 876 per day. Almost half of all babies born in the United States are born out of wedlock, with the majority of those children starting life with separation of the family at day one. Of all children born to married parents this year, fifty percent will experience the divorce of their parents before they reach their 18th birthday. 2.7 million minor children who have a parent in jail or prison. I will say this. The democrats usually tried to keep the slave families together (when it was economically feasible.)

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  38. Jerry,
    I have just signed up for Hilery (sic) Clinton’s Bible study group

    LOL!

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  39. Z,
    The Sec of DHS did quite well today

    Yes, but not according to Mika of Morning Joe and other mouthpieces of the Enemedia.

    I must quit watching the news, or else I’m going to have a stroke!

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  40. Mal says:

    Nah, AOW. After watching the news simply take heart in the knowledge more and more folks are seeing them for what they really are: FAKE NEWS. Remember, Trumps approval rating continues to climb.

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