I have a question that nobody on the planet has asked as far as I can tell:


Am I SO non racist that I just don’t get why dressing as a Black American is HORRID because I see them as “just another American” or am I too naive to understand?  I told a Black kid at the high school about the white teacher who darkened her skin and donned an African costume to do a soliloquy of a native African woman in her village, to draw the students in….and she was fired, did he think she was so wrong?  Yes, he did.  I was surprised.   Does he think it’s wrong because the media and the Left tells him he has to or does it hurt somehow to have ‘his people’ mimicked?  What would I care if somebody donned Armenian clothing from an Armenian village in Turkey?  Of course, they’d not blacken their skin (and here is the rub) but that’s only because Armenians are not Black.  If they were, what would I care?   Would I care if a Black teacher made her skin lighter to appear as an Armenian village woman?  NO!!!


DO YOU?  I hope I’m not being insensitive but, from the reactions we get across our country to the Virginia situation, maybe I am?

On Facebook, in response to the 2 blackface incidents and one sexual attack by the bigwigs in Virginia government, there was a picture of a janitor sweeping the floor and the caption said something like “If the succession of Virginians keeps getting attacked for inappropriate behavior, this janitor might be the in line for governor!”  🙂

THOUGHTS??  You can tell me if you find me inappropriate or insensitive; I just don’t get the big woop.  (and yes, having a K-K-K guy there in the picture with the governor was WRONG WRONG WRONG…THAT, I TOTALLY get…but I’m not talking about that here~)


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26 Responses to BLACKFACE

  1. jerrydablade says:

    uh oh, Z. You are asking the same question that got Megyn Kelly fired.

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  2. Mustang says:

    Our society today offers so many complex parameters that it is difficult to sort them out. But let’s just focus on the sensitivity issue for a moment. Were these people insensitive in their clowning around? Perhaps … but has anyone ever watched the Comedy channel for more than a quarter of an hour? How is that sort of rudeness, profanity, racist and homophilic humor acceptable, while silly behavior in a closed celebratory environment is not?

    Maybe it centers on what people do for a living. If you want to be a politician, for example, you must never have a sense of humor, tell a joke that might be taken out of context, or make an off-camera comment that might be overheard. If you don’t have an interest in politics, then maybe it doesn’t matter. Of the issue involving a politician in hot water, I could care less. I don’t live in Virginia and I don’t vote for un-American politicians.

    Yet, on the issue of sensitivity … how insensitive was it for the House Ethics Committee to cover up dozens of sexual harassment claims and hide from the taxpayer several millions of dollars in payoffs to victims? How insensitive was it for Senate Democrats to publicize unfounded claims against a Supreme Court nominee, to transform the confirmation process into a circus for blathering idiots?

    I’m not black, but I’m willing to bet that most black Americans could care less about “black face” clowning. And if they are upset about it, then they ought to stop calling one another “nigger.”

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  3. bocopro says:

    I write somethin every day . . . brain calisthenics . . . keep the ol’ cauliflower from atrophying. Like to toss hot-button issues and controversial topics into the wok and stir-fry ’em with just a dash of snark, a smidgin of religion, a pinch of logic, and a soupçon of humor.

    But I gotta tell ya, me damns and messers, my sense of humor has morphed into a pervasive disgust for political correctness and satirical wonder at why we tolerate the hypocrisy of the left.

    When everything is a crisis, the very concept of crisis becomes pejorative, and when everything is racist, nothing is racist. Sometimes a joke is just a freakin joke.

    As a young man, I was quite liberal, champion of the underdog, friend of the oppressed, all that stuff. My best friend in high school was a dark-skinned Mexican kid named Raul, and two of my girl friends were Chicanas (and this was in central Indiana, in the 50s).

    My first college roommate was a Latino mestizo from Honduras. And my wife of more than 50 years is a Southeast Asian. I’ve more or less immersed myself in other races all my life. You can’t be an effective division officer in the Navy as a racist, ’cause roughly 25% of your people will be black.

    How some ever, in the past 30 or so years . . . and esPECially during the Soetoro error, the attitudes, demands, and general behavior of young blacks — their “music” for example — seem to have been designed to turn me INTO a racist.

    And when I see/hear Cummings, Jackson-Lee, Waters, Wilson, Sharpton, Holder, et al., I’m compelled to beg forgiveness from the spirit of my grandmother who raised me to NOT think the things I think about those . . . those . . . those “people.” (Pardon the split infinitive)

    Many, and I mean an unusually large percentage, of Milady’s close friends are black. But . . . we have 6 Wal-Mart superstores here in P’cola, and she refuses to go into 3 of them because she doesn’t feel safe since most of the customers and staff are black and gangs of black kids seem always to be hanging around the entrances and lobbies. One is roughly a mile from the house, but she’ll drive over 6 miles to go to one patronized by and staffed with non-blacks.

    I go to the closest one, to save gas, but it DOES seem prudent to go there around 7 o’clock in the morning, just to be on the safe side. You don’t see a whole lotta demonstrations and muggings and car break-ins and personal confrontations at breakfastime.


  4. -FJ says:

    The anti-racism movement relies upon symbols to perpetuate their cause. Blackface is a corner-stone symbol of “Jim Crow Racism”. In their minds, blackface can ONLY be interpreted as a desire to perpetuate Jim Crow. If blackface is subsequently used in a manner approving of black culture or individuals, it would dilute the “Jim Crow” meaning and give black activists fewer tools with which to convey their core message and cause. So they “defend” the original intent behind blackface, regardless of current intent (ie – to be able to dance as adeptly as Michael Jackson, or sing as virtuously as Dianna Ross).

    Circumstances have changed. Many people admire black celebrities and wish to emulate them. This is a good thing. But the activists CANNOT allow their symbols to become appropriated and meanings behind them changed.


  5. -FJ says:

    They are “locked” into a symbolic meaning (ie – Confederate flag). That the meaning behind a symbol can change over time (indicating progress) is something that they cannot acknowledge without ceding the power granted by the symbols original meaning.


  6. -FJ says:

    btw – That they are inconsistent in their arguments… wanting to ban the use of symbols based upon ancient meanings in some cases and perpetuate them in others, is an indication that it is ideology, and not pure reasoning or logic, that motivates their actions.


  7. bocopro says:

    FJ: Yep, and I’d add to all that the wisdom of Sowell — “Racism is not dead, but it is on life support . . . kept alive by politicians, race hustlers, and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as “racists.”


  8. skudrunner says:

    Can’t speak for anyoen else but I did a lot of stupid things when I was in my late teens and early twenty’s. PC was not a lifestyle 40 years ago and you could actually laugh at stupid things others did.


  9. ACUCHUCK says:

    What was the term the late and great Tom Petty said in one of his songs?
    ELEPHANT SKIN. Progressives are the racist ones with incredibly thin skin. The problem is they are also the loudest troublemakers, always looking for some reason to be outraged.
    But, OOPS, it’s one of their own. Now WTF do they do now????


  10. Kid says:

    First off, what is wrong with being racist ? Where is the law, the moral, or the ethic that says we must all like everyone.

    2 – The Treasure here is that the people telling us this, HATE conservatives, (and whites and Christians) but then hypocrisy is in their genetic core.
    3- Calling people “Racist” is their main strategy to shut down honest debate and to demonize their enemies. Even a 2nd grader, properly educated in the history of America can easily recognize that the democrats have always been and still are the anti-black racists.
    4 – The blacks, generally speaking, are quite comfortable being given a leg up over everyone else using any false narrative available.
    5- tell any group of people that they are being persecuted long enough and they will believe it. Black, Latino, Homosexual, Trans, Women, you name it.
    We could write a very lengthy book.

    This was all started by the Communist Active Measures, but no doubt the moslem vermin see the opportunity in having an infidel country full of ignorant, weak morons, fighting with each other and with no eye on the ‘ball’, that being creeping sharia, islamization of the western world, whatever you want to cal it.

    Personally, I view everyone as individuals. I know great folks in any category but yes when approached by a black guy with gang tattoos, or “MS-13” stamped on his face, or in certain areas, I’ll lock the doors.


  11. Mal says:

    P.C. actually started much earlier. Remember the pancake chain “Little Black Sambo’s” with the picture of a smiling little Black kid? I believe it was in the 1970’s when they were compelled to change their name and logo. The left will continue using P.C. and get all the “mileage” they can from it.


  12. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang! THANK YOU…YES! Loved this “If you want to be a politician, for example, you must never have a sense of humor, tell a joke that might be taken out of context, or make an off-camera comment that might be overheard” We have, indeed, reached a huge new low with this kind of thing, haven’t we. SOMETHING is going to offend SOMEONE, and that offended someone gets FAR FAR more sympathy than anybody with humor who never meant to hurt in the first place!!

    BOCOPRO; “When everything is a crisis, the very concept of crisis becomes pejorative, and when everything is racist, nothing is racist. Sometimes a joke is just a freakin joke.”
    EXACTLY! I’m glad you agree!!!
    I love and miss the GREAT THOMAS SOWELL………….wait, does that make me a racist!??

    FJ…WOZIR! “If blackface is subsequently used in a manner approving of black culture or individuals, it would dilute the “Jim Crow” meaning and give black activists fewer tools with which to convey their core message and cause.”
    And yes, the Black-faced teacher I mentioned who only wanted to ‘get in character’ for a soliloquy she thought would teach her students was COMPLIMENTING Blacks, not detracting!! And yes. ALL IDEOLOGY…

    Skudrunner, you are not alone….I ache for those days, don’t you? xx

    CHUCK….exactly! what DO they do NOW? HAAAAAAAAA!!

    Kid..”Mr White” made me laugh out loud! Actually Chris Rock USED to be the funniest and smartest Black guy who hated PC….he’s kind of acquiesced lately 😦 I LOVED his bit about talking to his Black friends in the ‘hood who he said were bragging that their bro wasn’t in prison….he says something like “you DO understand nobody SHOULD be in prison, right? You don’t need to BRAG that he isn’t! It’s NORMAL NOT to be in prison!?” I think I’ve got that right; it was hilarious, and I gave him a lot of credit.
    Your list is EXCELLENT…#5 ROCKS.

    Mal! Little Black Sambo’s became SAMBO’S…at least our favorite one in Santa Barbara near our fave hotel there…you’re right!

    Am I completely stupid or reading this wrong? Please explain what YOU think the words in (dare I say) Blackface (okay…black FONT) mean…are they racist?

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash’d out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
    Between their lov’d homes and the war’s desolation;
    (Z: Does that way WHITE FREEMEN?)
    Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the heav’n-rescued land
    Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
    And this be our motto: “In God is our trust”
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!



  13. Baysider says:

    I wish I could give a more complete answer, but I am on a short break from a seminar all day today and caught this. I have a black member of my Bible study group who actually brought this up to me. She was extremely offended over the remarks somebody had made about putting on black face in high school to come to a Halloween party dressed as Diana Ross. I understood the Association of black face with being humiliated as stupid and bumbling. That wasn’t at all the context of this woman’s remarks. And I asked her if she had actually heard the remarks because she was responding to them as if they were different than what they were. She said she hadn’t. But it is so deeply ingrained in that history – and I know she was raised in the rural South – that just the concept of the word black face being used was deeply offensive . She’s not a snowflake.

    I’ve looked for an opportunity to open up on another discussion about that, but it hasn’t happened. I respect her, and have to recognize that the term can be so hideous to people, something like the N-word, that maybe it’s better to just not go there.

    It’s similar to when you use the term to me social justice. It’s a Radioactive term, and I cringe out of all proportion of what no speakers probably think someone might. I understand the whole iceberg behind the term, and many people who throw it around don’t. I think for many blacks who truly have a reason to be sensitized to it there’s a deep iceberg behind the term black face .


  14. Kid says:

    Z, Thanks. No the anthem is not racist.

    Yea, funny, Chris Rock, during his stand up titled ‘I Hate Niggers” – “when some black dude says I take Care of My Kids” What do you want a cookie? You’re Supposed to take care of your kids. Similar on the dude who says he’s not been to jail yet.


  15. Ray Cole says:

    I think if the Left has it’s way it will be bloody


  16. bocopro says:

    I think what ticks me off most about snowflakes and SJWs and Tinker Belles and genderfluids is that up until about 50 years ago, in a healthy society they would’ve been the first to die, and now they get special consideration, special attention, safe spaces, punitive reparations, parades, caucuses, overrepresentation in entertainment . . . and they get to vote . . . AND they reproduce . . . and you can’t avoid them . . . And they recruit if they can’t breed.


  17. bunkerville says:

    Thirty years ago everyone should have known better…. I lived through segregation. It was terrible. terrible….. It is something that at that time everyone should have known, would have known what it represented. Today, it is a memory for those of a certain age.
    Thats my thought for what it is worth.


  18. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, thanks for that. I still say it’s ridiculous, but sensitivities, even all of ours, can be. I’m a pretty empathetic person but I certainly don’t

    You say “I understood the Association of black face with being humiliated as stupid and bumbling.”.,…I don’t. Diana Ross (and I think it was Michael Jackson, or at least that’s what made the national news from Virginia) nor Michael Jackson are bumbling or anything else, so I’d look at it as a smart White guy who knows what if he wants to go to a party as M Jackson, he’d better not look white. As I said at the top of my Post, it’s WRONG WRONG WRONG to emulate a BlaCk person in the stupid generalizations of ‘step ‘n fetch it’ type of stuff….who would EVER do that in good conscience? But to emulate a famous Black person? COOL!

    SO, I believe this is deeper than SANITY, frankly….deeper than REALITY…it’s something “BLACKFACE!!” which just automatically conjures negativity. And it shouldn’t, in my opinion.

    BUNKERVILLE, that you should mention ’30 years ago’ makes TOTAL sense and helps me see it in context………yes, for a guy to want to go to a Halloween part TODAY as Denzel or something “COOL!” Thirty years ago, who knows? Maybe not.

    Bocopro…I was thinking JUST TODAY how the creeps of the world are lionized today and they’d have been laughed out of existence years back. Today, on TV, i saw a commercial for some constipation product…….shows the guy SITTING ON THE F’ING TOILET (and yes I’m thinking the word, won’t print it)….ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SITTING ON THE TOILET FOR ALL OF AMERICA TO HAVE TO SEE? I don’t want to see a strange man on the john, I don’t want to see a woman with a baby attached to her naked breast, I don’t want to hear a guy say, on a teaser for a new TV show “He was so hot, I had to tuck my DICK in my belt”….NO, call me nuts, but I don’t want to hear things like that ON TELEVISION……………(and no, I’ve wanted to mention that for a few days now but knew I couldn’t…so now BOCOPRO, you’ve made me mad enough… !!!! HAAA!! I agree with you…..TIME TO START SCORNING THE PERVS, NOT LETTING THEM SCORN US!!



  19. bunkerville says:

    It was almost impossible for blacks to travel… refused them. Restaurants, pools were closed. It was hateful time. The jockey lantern with black face was an old standby.. I am surprised that hasn’t come up.
    The Governor was born and raised on a farm in Virginia. Hard to believe he didn’t know what blackface was about. And the KKK.


  20. Kid says:

    Z, the one that comes to mind for me was an Enzite? commercial on the radio. Anyone from 2 to 92 could be listening and the commercial is some chick talking about how the physical attributes of her boyfriends/husband’s dick was so enhanced and how she enjoyed it so much more. I’m 60 at the time and I don’t wanna hear that shit.

    Bunkerville, check out the movie -Remember the Titans.


  21. geeez2014 says:

    Bunkerville, I totally understand how bad it was back then and I had thought how insensitive it would be particularly for a Southerner to do those things…..In California, we’d simply not get it, we really wouldn’t.
    I still think putting dark stuff on your face to emulate a Black American isn’t bad unless you emulate bad habits.

    Kid, the woman in that ad uses THAT TERM??? Seriously?
    Ya, I DO NOT want to hear that stuff in public. Period.


  22. Kid says:

    Z, no, the p word I believe but I was just going with the flow and used the d word.


  23. Mal says:

    P word or D word, it still sends the same message, right? I still remember a time when they couldn’t even say “damn” on the air or movies. Everyone ran to see Clark Gable in “Gone with the Wind” say “Personally, my dear, I don’t give a damn”.


  24. Kid says:

    Right Mal, and this was just everyday talk radio. And fwiw, I’ve heard the p word and the v word about 4 million times too much in the last 5 years.


  25. Kid says:

    Z, yea, black folks, or Latino, or Chinese, or whoever that are out there getting the job done do add to our culture. Hard to beat Black or Korean BBQ, Really good Mexican food, or Chinese (Try Dim Sum sometime) and it’s not just food. Lots of good stuff there, but lots of bad too (rap, MS-13, etc)
    as stated previously, I take each person individually, finding great qualities in various races.


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