Drugs in America

We have a far bigger drug problem in America than most of us would like to admit.   WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO COMBAT IT?

EIGHT heroin overdoses in Pennsylvania ….in SEVENTY MINUTES!   Much of the heroin is laced with Fentanyl because Fentanyl is cheaper than heroin additives so they lace it with Fentanyl…cheaper but MORE DEADLY!

Tell us what YOU would do to combat this problem.  My hair dresser’s alcoholic 23 yr old son is ‘dating’ a pastor’s daughter who is strung out on meth…She says she’s very pretty except for her teeth.  Meth destroys teeth and skin.  A 23 yr old alcoholic, a pastor’s daughter who’s a mess from meth….this is the new America.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?

And, by the way, we are stupid stupid stupid because you can bet the Chinese and Russians had a hand in our drug problem shortly after Kruschev promised they’d do us in FROM within.

Z

 

 

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22 Responses to Drugs in America

  1. bunkerville says:

    Still as bad as it is alcohol kills and maims more each day. An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States.
    https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-facts-and-statistics
    Add how many more they maim in accidents.

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  2. bocopro says:

    Addiction is something we can intellectually understand, but until we’ve experienced it, we aren’t qualified to discuss it rationally.

    It’s very much like childbirth: a man can realize the physical and psychological trauma associated with giving live birth, but he cannot fully comprehend it any more than a woman can know what it’s like for a guy to ride a bicycle off a high curb and land on the crossbar.

    The problem of opioid addiction can be traced back to self-indulgent whiney-ass hypochondriacs and lazy doctors. Too many people complain about ordinary discomforts that are part of being alive and then get habit-forming pain pills instead of dealing with reality.

    Doctors are often too quick to prescribe medications when all that’s really needed is a roast beef sandwich, a cold longnecker, and some time for the pain to subside on its own . . . and maybe a roll in the hay now and then as a distraction.

    Some people are more susceptible to addictions than others, but doctors have neither the time nor the training to analyze their patients’ predilections and predispositions. Sometimes the best pain prescription is “Grow a set!”

    I smoked for 30 years, from 1955 to 1985. Got really good at it, but I finally realized my chances of making the Olympic Smoking Team were very small, and I prob’ly wasn’t gonna get any better at it . . . so I quit.

    Friends and family congratulated me on my magnificent will power, but I just don’t b’lieve I was genuinely hooked. I mean, you line up a hundred people and give ‘em a habit-forming substance on a regular basis. Most will develop an addiction to various degrees, some sooner and some later.

    But . . . not all will necessarily develop the same DEGREE of addiction. On the 0 to 100 addicted scale, 100 being the highest level, I was more’n likely down in the single digits. Just lucky, I reckon. Other people might try for decades to get rid of the nicotine craving and never quite make it.

    OTOH, I might take one hit of oxycontin for post-surgery pain abatement and be hooked for life. Ya never know. Some people need to bite the bullet instead of downing the drug.

    Drug dealers, pushers, smugglers, and meth chefs need to be fed to the gators in a Loozianne swamp.

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  3. ACUCHUCK says:

    We were all curious about drugs when we were younger. We called it POT. Who knew it was a drug?? Of course LSD and amphetamines, uppers and downers were pretty much the range of stuff back in the late 70’s, HEROINE was just for the hard core losers.
    Getting overly involved was all up to availability, and having the cash to buy the stuff. Now a day’s there is plenty of cash and the drugs can be found in all parts of this country.
    The key is to limit availability and the as price goes up less people will find access to these drugs.
    The Dems in Congress, just don’t get it, that a lot of this problem is caused by the lack of security at the Southern Border, which they can fix. Follow the money, and you’ll eventually find a connection between the Dem Congress and the money that finds it’s way into their pockets, coming straight from the Cartels.
    BUILD THAT WALL—NOW!!!

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  4. kidme37 says:

    Well, we know the drug problems have only gotten worse since the war on drugs was initiated.

    Limiting the supply is the only potential answer. Some say the CIA brings the cocaine and heroin in with the help of the Cartels and others. Who knows.

    Remembering back to the late 60’s and early 70’s, we had Kent State then right after it seemed all the college campuses were drowning in drugs, mainly maryjane and qualudes that seemed to calm everybody and get them interested in things other than protesting. Would the government do that? Sure. Who knows if that’s a valid theory.

    Then without a lot of drugs around the kids are liable to go back to sniffing glue. It is a general problem that will never go away.

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  5. Sparky says:

    How would I handle if I was Queen of America … because one would have to have absolute power to do what I want to do. I would put God back in the Schools and Government. Arrest and put in rehab, which includes working & going to Church regular, all non-violent addicts for at least a year. It would not go on their permanent records unless they won’t be rehabilitated. Execute ALL drug dealers, no appeals. Build the wall, with gun torrents. You try to scale it or go under it, you die. I think that’s it. There’s probably more because it’s not really a black and white kinda issue.
    “Addiction” is a choice. It’s a result of living in sin. Once a person recognizes that, they’re on the road to recovery. Only Jesus Christ can change our lives and hearts. Without Him, we have no hope. ❤

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  6. bunkerville says:

    Blame the government.. When I was still in healthcare, Hospitals were dinged and reimbursements cut if they did not provide adequate pain control.. Many of our pts were druggies to start with. Go figure what you would do.

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  7. Leonard Jones says:

    I used to listen to a radio show hosted by the former LAPD sheriff Daryl Gates.
    on one show he stated that all drug dealers should be lined up against a wall
    and shot. Some black woman from South Central LA called him up and told
    him thank you for saving my life. That statement caused her to quit cold turkey.
    If you want a way to solve this problem, maybe we should follow his advice.

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  8. MAL says:

    The above are all good thoughts. When I was in school alcohol and cigarettes were all there was. Pot hadn’t hit the scene yet. I belonged to a club in High School and was the only one that didn’t smoke. I also believe I’m the last remaining of the dozen guys still living. Like most kids I was pressured into trying it, but just plain didn’t like it. It helped that neither of my parents smoked. And none of our four children did because my wife never did either. I don’t believe we stress the importance of being a parental role model. Kids are more strongly influenced by our actions than we realize and with so many missing fathers and working mothers, kids can get into trouble too easily.

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  9. Bob says:

    “WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO COMBAT IT?” Great question, Z. To me, the question has become, “How do we keep people from doing things they want to do?” There would not be a huge supply of drugs unless that was a huge demand for them. I don’t know how to cure addiction, but a basic problem is stopping people from trying the stuff in the first place. Among these people there is probably an innate desire for to get high, anyway. What to do?

    Like Bocopro. I smoked for decades and then decided to go cold turkey. It was tough, but for me was the only way. Others are not blessed like me. I cut off alcohol four months ago, not to nip (no pun intended) an alcohol problem, but at my age I cannot handle the calories. I no longer want a drink unless I am watching a movie. Everybody knows you have to snack and drink during entertainment events. To satisfy that urge I get a glass of water, and that seems to satisfy me.

    In the end there is no complete solution, but we have to do our best.

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  10. MAL says:

    Bob, I’ve often thought we should let the public know if they choose to hurt themselves by smoking, drugs, etc. we won’t be responsible for their safety or medical bills. PERIOD! Its a drain on our society and I’m sick of our having to pay for it. Similarly, I have been driving for 75 years and never cost my insurance company for an accident (a few broken windshields, is all) yet due to my now being 91, my insurance has skyrocketed. I’ve been paying for all the dodo’s out there. When do I get a break? ‘Taint fair!

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    Bunkerville…alcoholism has always been with us and always will be….it’s horrid. This drug epidemic, with even young mothers doing meth in their basements in Nebraska is new and we’ve got to at least try to nip it in the bud; ; though I’m not sure we’re still in the ‘bud’ stage….
    I never quite see the alcohol/drugs correlation as clearly as many do because having a drink at a bar is quite different than teens walking around with joints in their mouths walking down the street where it’s legal…there’s something so much more life altering to that. But, that’s my opinion.

    Bocopro “Addiction is something we can intellectually understand, but until we’ve experienced it, we aren’t qualified to discuss it rationally.”
    I absolutely agree about the doctors and how they over prescribe…
    I’m not sure I agree that one dose of an opioid can make us addicted.

    Our buddy JERSEY JACK before he died was very fearful of addiction, was in terrible pain, and took it only once in a while………..but I don’t know; perhaps many can’t do that without becoming strung out.

    Chuck..yes, and POT was very different then…not laced with Fentanyl, etc ….But, you know, my friends who smoked a bit more pot than others never much did very well in life.
    Today, kids think pot is just pot, and it’s far more dangerous.
    And yes, when I hear young people are addicted to HEROIN, I always think “My GOSH, talk about hard core!” But it’s pretty normal these days!
    I accidentally almost drank LSD once; I had an interior designer boss who lived in the Hollywood Hills….pretty good designer. But I had heard drug rumors, didn’t know for sure. I went up to his house alone once to do some work up there in the late afternoon and reached for a bottle of wine at the end of the day to have a glass….a fabric rep I knew had come up to visit me while I worked and he literally pushed the fridge door shut while my hand was still in it! “There’s ACID IN THAT WINE!!!” imagine if I’d been up there alone and drunk a little wine….scares me to think of it.

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, I really hope it’s not a valid theory. I doubt this opioid thing is gov’t created, but if they want a brain dead population, they’re sure getting it 😦

    Sparky, SO many lives have been changed to the better through faith…particularly drug addicts…at least I’ve heard of many here in the LA area…..
    I, too, believe faith is the ONLY THING which will make America great again…….our kids need ‘brakes’, they need to know the culture they see on the internet is SIN….and it’s time we call it what it is……but we won’t, God forbid someone’s feelings get hurt….

    Trump spoke about faith today…….I didn’t hear most of it, tho I wanted to someone called during it….sadly, he can’t focus on JUDEO-CHRISTIAN beliefs…has to include…….well, everything 😦

    Mal, Oh, for those days again…”When I was in school alcohol and cigarettes were all there was. ”

    Leonard, I remember that show……….He was RIGHT, wasn’t he.

    Bob…yes, I smoked for years, but very little …sometimes a day of smoking, sometimes weeks without it….and I quit the day we moved back to LA from 4 years in Paris. Just stopped.
    Also, there’s apparently a gene which disallows you to become addicted, which I found interesting. I guess I had it.
    Sorry the calories of a nice drink aren’t for you anymore…I’d miss my evening wine or vodka with big fat olives and water 🙂

    EVERYBODY: I BELIEVE THE BIG PROBLEM IS WHY AMERICANS DO SO MANY DRUGS.
    YOU DON’T FIND FRENCH OR GERMAN YOUNG MOTHERS DOING OPIOIDS….
    TEENS DON’T SMOKE MUCH POT IN EUROPE.
    THAT’S JUST THE TRUTH, UNPLEASANT AS WE THINK IT IS.

    OUR KIDS ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CALM THEMSELVES, HIDE THEMSELVES, SEEK SOLACE…GET AWAY FROM IT ALL……BE COOL.

    THAT IS SCARIER THAN ALMOST ANYTHING TO ME….THE HIGH SCHOOLERS I KNOW WHO DON’T DO DRUGS ARE BIG INTO ATHLETICS, PROFESSIONAL SPORTS-WATCHING, WORKING HARD TO GET COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS, ETC. THEY WOULDN’T DO DRUGS IF THEIR LIVES DEPENDED ON IT….YET WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR KIDS VAPING, TOO….AND SOME SMOKING POT A LOT. I KNOW THEM WELL, TOO, AND IT MAKES ME SO SAD.

    WE’RE A VERY SICK NATION. THAT MAKES ME EVEN SO MUCH SADDER…….

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  13. kidme37 says:

    Sorry Z, but I think drugs are some of the least of our problems as a country.

    My list would start with communist indoctrination in all levels of education.

    Once prior to 1920? all drugs were legal. We still thrived as a country, even as the commie FDR tried his best to destroy us.

    To bobo’s comment – I had some people around me in my mid 30’s into cocaine. I tried it a couple times. No big whup. I though $100 for this? Count me out. Yet a very intelligent and young man who had much going for him got hooked. Didn’t pay any of this bills, all of his money went to coke. Last I heard, he was arrested transporting a large amount of cocaine on I-10 between Phoenix and California. Surely he got the grey bar prison experience. We were good friends at one time but polar opposites in this regard.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, I’m sorry if I gave the impression I thought this very new type of drug addiction was one of the worst problems we have…
    I’m saying I think the huge amount of addicts says a lot more about our country than many think.

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  15. Law and Order Teacher says:

    When I had surgery on my lung I was left with five drains in left rib cage. Really painful. I was administered fentanyl in the hospital for pain. The nurses were very vigilant and watched me like a hawk. I stopped the fentynal and went to other pain pills. I can see if someone has constant pain it can become addictive. I fought it and got by. The nurses were great and would not let have more than called for. Pros all the way.

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  16. geeez2014 says:

    L&OT…SURE! Fentanyl is not just ruled out as a carefully administered drug; it’s IN a lot of pain killers, too. The problem, apparently from what I’ve read, is that it gets added to street drugs because it’s cheaper than heroin, etc….and too much is added, etc. That’s ONE problem, anyway.
    I agree….we MUST have strong pain killers like those for temporary bad pain….
    Your lung pain stopped, eventually…thank God, but people need this stuff to get them thru those bad times….I think you’re right again when you say good doctoring and nursing is the key.

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    Something else on my mind;  If you want to REALLY tick off a Ukrainian American, call it THE Ukraine.   OY!!   It is UKRAINE.   Even Laura Ingraham and Lindsey Graham say THE UKRAINE….and other supposedly educated news folks do, too,  and now it rankles me since one of my dearest friends gets angry at it and IS from UKRAINE 🙂

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  18. Baysider says:

    It involves the spirit and biochemistry. Collectively, we have a BIG HOLE in our culture that people are mad to fill. Drugs is one of the biggies that does it. Some are more susceptible biochemically for several reasons identified in good science – and as BP shows in his experience. It’s extremely hard to get and keep those off. And we have so many more like that. Even in the ‘old days’ where it was mostly alcohol, they’d get off the booze and go to AA meetings with boxes of substitute addictions in the back (sugary donuts).

    The biochemical basis has deteriorated so much in the last generation that cravings and addictions are more widespread.

    But the spiritual basis is just being gutted. People with purpose to their lives are less interested. So Sparky + 1 there. You can sweep the house, but if nothing comes to fill it with meaning and purpose you’ll have to keep sweeping.

    NOW … the makers of OxyContin pushed these into the market AND underplayed or ignored the extremely addictive effects. Many people who don’t fit my 2 categories got hooked and have no warning or advice. Very hard to get off. Like Jersey Jack, Mr. B was leery of it when he had a back injury 2 years ago and was in extreme pain and said ‘no.’

    Some hospitals use personnel-intensive (read ‘expensive’) intervention programs to follow up their post surgical opioid patients at short intervals to transition them to non-addictive meds, meditation, movement and so on. But this needs to be done with every person. There are other devices and interventions that work without drugs – all after the fact. These can only help the motivated. Now we’re circling around to paragraph 1. And we’ve only helped a few people. And taken dozens out of other, productive work, to do so.

    The word “judgment of God” creeps into my mind. He is letting us reap what we’ve sowed.

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  19. Baysider says:

    No wonder Ukranians like me. I’ve always said just “Ukraine.”

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  20. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider..the biochemical basis has deteriorated..??? How do you mean?
    And yes, I’ve always thought AA itself starts to be the addiction………though I know many have greatly benefited from it.

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  21. MAL says:

    BTWQ, re: Bob’s buying extended warranty from Fry’s, I never buy them. Like, when you buy a washer, dryer, fridge, etc. I put the cost of the added warranty for all of them into a hypothetical account so the money is there if I need it, with no proof of warranty, time limit, or other “exceptions”. Just go get it repaired or replaced.

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  22. Baysider says:

    One example, Z: significant changes in foods and eating habits (particularly low omega-3 levels) mess with dopamine and serotonin production and trend toward a cascade of changes in the brain that increase addictive behaviors, among other ill effects.

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