Mulvaney and QUID PRO QUO

ARE YOU KIDDING?  Mulvaney was RIGHT, in my opinion! (I’m a fan of his, anyway)    When haven’t we done QUID PRO QUO when negotiating with other countries?  “YOU do this or we’ll………”   “Do that for us and we’ll………”  How else DO we get action?!!

Yes, it’s a bit different when a candidate from one party tells a foreign country that if they don’t do something for him against his opponent we’ll withhold something, but if anybody read the Ukraine transcript, that isn’t what happened.

Or do you think IT DID?

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25 Responses to Mulvaney and QUID PRO QUO

  1. Yes, the favor President Trump wants from Ukrainian President Zelensky has to do with the actions taken by the Ukrainian government interference in & support of Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. It also has to do with Deep State corruption and the massive amount of pay-to-play bribes enriching America’s Ruling Class Establishment. His request for their assistance in investigating has to do with American past and present corruption, not the 2020 election.

    President Trump wants help getting evidence of Joe and Hunter Biden’s payoffs in Ukraine and China and everywhere else. But it goes much deeper than just the Bidens. I think as the election approaches and the Ruling Class Establishment’s corruption is exposed, that the reelection campaign will be about ending this massive corruption.

    After all, folks, actual listed “foreign aid” is a small part of the federal budget… but federal agencies and departments also have massive budgets with funding for all sorts of foreign ventures. The State Department, Department of Commerce, Department of Agriculture, Department of Transportation… all of them have hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars appropriated to them annually. All of these departments engage in ventures with foreign countries and miraculously, those making the deals become personally wealthy, beyond their wildest dreams.

    THIS IS TAXPAYER MONEY!!!! The Federal Government has been running a Mafia-style skimming operation, a federal protection racket! Not one DAMN DIME in the Clinton Foundation’s bank accounts was earned legitimately by Bill and Hillary Clinton. It is all money they extorted and extracted for access to America’s treasure! IT’S OUR DAMN MONEY!

    President Trump intends to massively CUT federal expenditures in his second term and he’s going to do it by cleaning up the corruption and putting an end to this theft! He is a wildly successful businessman who knows how to cut spending…. REAL CUTS, not the BS of reducing the amount of growth in spending being labelled as a cut!

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  2. I am so sick of the lying media!

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  3. More people need to read the Ukraine transcript. Every word!

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  4. ACUCHUCK says:

    The aid to Ukraine which is in question, was $440 million or so. It was to be given to Ukraine so they could buy American made arms. So we give Ukraine a ton of money so they can send it right back to the American military industrial complex and all their buddy’s. Really?? And that’s not money laundering?? That’s why there is such a stink. No wonder they are trying so hard to discredit Trump, he’s on to their scam, and it started with that loud mouth Uncle Joe spilling the beans about firing the prosecutor, who was looking into his son’s connections. HMMM!!.

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  5. AcuChuck, the whole federal budget has to be revamped. This crap of doling out government contracts to the Industrial Military Complex must be reformed. I don’t want to put them out of business, because God knows we need them. But we don’t have to pay 10 times what it ought to cost.


    They justify & rationalize this generational, outrageous plundering of the U. S. Treasury by demonizing and degrading traditional, average Americans. The Ruling Class Establishment and Deep State hold us in contempt. The very people who make everything they have and everything they do, possible.

    I’ve never understood why We The People are smart enough to earn taxable wages and generate taxable profits in our businesses…. but aren’t smart enough to decide how to spend the tax money the federal government collects as a result. The elites (our ”superiors”) think they are the only qualified people to appropriate and spend it.

    We’re the ignorant, uneducated, unwashed masses. We deplorable, gun-toting, bitter clingers who go to church are not capable of governing ourselves. They must rule over We The People, the citizens who make it all happen.

    How the Hell does anyone get so full of themselves that they believe their own horseshit?


  6. Law and Order Teacher says:

    The leftists are doing what they do. Trash everyone they hate. Mulvaney made the mistake of answering guestions based on the premise given by the MSM. You’ll notice Trump has learned to reframe every question he gets. Trump is bad, AG Barr is bad, DOJ IG is bad, and on and on. Their message is all about hate and it will doom them. Go away Dems, go away.


  7. MAL says:

    Quid pro quo = LEVERAGE. Everybody uses it so get use to it.

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  8. kidme37 says:

    I saw a headline yesterday “Schiff completely Made Up the Whistleblower. There is no ‘Whistleblower’.

    If true this POS is a real piece of human garbage.

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  9. kidme37 says:

    All the democrats and their family members and no doubt some repubs and their family’s are laundering some serious tax money. From deblasio’s ugly wife and her woman’s program, battered women or something like that can’t account for 878 million t0 Mooch’s 3/4 Billion for a non-working website that would stillbe highway robbery at 10 million, to some back rep up in illinois whose wife is running some kind of women’s help things on federal grant money. They are ALL stealing massive amounts of money. Pelosi worth over 100 mil on 223,000 a year? No end to these stories.

    It’s a feeding frenzy.

    18 Trillion during 8 years of obama and not a single bridge built or road repaired. But he speaks so well and he’s cool right. One of the reason’s I pay so little attention to politics. Too many voters are absolute morons.

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  10. MAL says:

    I wondered about that possibility early on, Kid. Being as their identity has to be protected, how do we even know there is a whistle blower, esp. given the propensity of the left to, shall we say, prevaricate?

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  11. Law and Order Teacher says:

    Interesting take on mystery “whistleblower.” I wouldn’t put it past these lying fakes.

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  12. Baysider says:

    Nope – not on the phone call. In fact, it’s not at all unusual to search out a matter with your counterparts in other governments. Another big BUPKIS. (and such a perfect term: Literally, in Yiddish it means “beans”. However, beans was a term used to describe goat droppings, as goat shit looks like beans.)

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  13. Mustang says:

    @ Mal … the law doesn’t protect the whistleblower’s identity; it protects his/her job. If there was no whistleblower, I wonder if that opens Schiff up to making false allegations to the level of legal jeopardy. I do not doubt that he’s capable of such dishonesty, but grind my teeth thinking he could get away with it unscathed.

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  14. fredd says:

    Everything Donald Trump does will be considered malfeasance by the Democrats leading up to the election, high crimes and misdemeanors all. I’m used to it, and so is he. It’s possible that some good may come of all this impeachment nonsense: a constitutional amendment that will limit and define in excruciating detail what are considered high crimes and misdemeanors, and future abuses of power by either party will no longer be used to over turn the will of the people at the ballot box.

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  15. kidme37 says:

    Schiff is most definitely capable of making this up. How many months was he screaming he had absolute proof of Trump/Russia. Mueller never asked him for it and he never offered it to the special counsel. How PATHETIC is that? We need a new word(s).


  16. kidme37 says:

    The only good coming out of this is it keeps the retards with TDS on the edge of their seats, sugar plums of Trump Arrested dancing in their peabrain heads every night…


  17. kidme37 says:

    Fredd, I’ve written a couple constitutional amendments:

    – Congress nor the president will have to power to create legislation that applies to the citizens but not themself, and vice versa. That’d stop a whole bunch of crap and,
    – the government, federal, state, and local will have no power whatsoever to restrict anyone’s ability to buy any weapon up to and including Ohio Class Nuklar Submarines bristling with Nuklar weapons.



  18. kidme37 says:

    Line 1 – No power.


  19. bunkerville says:

    Now I hear on Fox that McConnell is telling the Senate to get ready for a impeachment trial? Set aside six weeks? Say it isn’t so….


  20. kidme37 says:

    Bunk, If the repubs give this crap any respect, we’re through. America will vote the repubs out like no one has been voted out. Geezix.


  21. kidme37 says:

    Bunk, Possibility # 2 – A senate trial, if allowed could subpeona Anyone even remotely associated with this nonsense and question them under oath, might be a positive. Imagine 2000 democrat associated vermin having to the take the 5th. Including that crapstain schiff.


  22. geeez2014 says:

    L&OT: “You’ll notice Trump has learned to reframe every question he gets.” I couldn’t put my finger on it but there HAS been a change in his responses and I think you nailed it!

    Fairest Witness, Chuck, …such good stuff…great info; real feelings we all have…thanks.!!!
    AOW…so sick of the lies, too


    Now I KNOW that if Trump was using Quid Pro Quo to get a Joe Biden as an opponent, that is wrong…you don’t mess with OUR MONEY to threaten a foreign country to screw an opponent, but the transcript shows THAT WAS NOT THE CASE!!

    Kid, Mustang, Fredd….all of you; GREAT stuff………..I don’t disagree with a bit of it.
    Hell YES, Schiff would make ANYTHING up, the JERK.
    And hell yes, WHERE DID that HUGE amount for infrastructure Obama promised us GO?

    OK..bad stuff happens all the time like that but HERE IS THE RUB: A DISHONEST MEDIA WHICH HIDES THE TRUTH IS PRAVDA and THAT is far more upsetting than WHERE IS THE MONEY? or ISN”T TRUMP A JERK?

    With an honest media telling us everything, showing both sides of everything, truthfully acknowledging the past and context in all articles….we’d be America again!

    The way it is now, we’re SUNK.


  23. skudrunner says:

    The latest pay for play involves someone the media detests and they are in full attack mode. They were quiet when joey held money from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating his brilliant son. The clintons used pay for play to fill their, never spend a dime on helping others, charity and the prince of incompetence, obama, gave billions to a government who’s motto was kill Americans. The media was in step with the prince of incompetence when he told Romney he was behind the times about Russia and then they blamed them for -H- getting her as- kicked.
    IMHO I do not think trump will win reelection and the GOP needs to appoint another candidate or we will end up with a country we won’t recognize, run by a group who will open our borders, give taxpayer money to all those who don’t deserve it and line their pockets with gold.


  24. geeez2014 says:

    skudrunner, I vacillate between YES and NO about Trump in 2020….I think he vastly needs to change his demeanor in speeches, etc., tough but honorable would help….he could be losing a lot of women if we’re to believe some input I read.
    But, I don’t think most people who WOULD vote for him would ever vote Democrat, not with this socialist bunch, and that keeps me optimistic. …because you’re right; if he loses, America is OVER; we discuss that here a lot.
    Good to see you, hope you’re doing well! Z (and good point about THAT pay for play….but if a Dem does it, who cares, right?)!


  25. MAL says:

    You’re absolutely right about Trump and his demeanor, Z, but we keep goin’ back to why he is that way. He is NOT a politician. He’s a businessman, and the reason we voted for him out of disgust for most politicians.
    Speaking of demeanor, did you know sex is a misdemeanor? Its true!
    The more I MIS, DE MEANER I get!


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