A Question I’m having trouble getting an answer to:

I have been hearing a lot of Conservatives saying the quarantine was far too dangerous a solution to the virus.   Some say it’s infringing on our liberties and that, basically, this was a dry run for what they think is coming.

Trump was the one to request the quarantine…”EVERYBODY stay home if you can.  Businesses should close, churches, ballparks, stadiums,..”  Then, a few days ago, it was “…don’t even go to the grocery store or pharmacy if you can at all help it.”  Trump.

Trump also said we can’t let the cure be worse than the sickness.

SO, if this is some kind of threat to the freedoms of our country, or a foreshadowing of the death of freedom, IS TRUMP IN ON IT? 

Would Trump have even let this happen if he had a whiff of suspicion that people were taking advantage of the virus contagiousness?    Does he not believe it’s contagious and he’s in with Drs Fauci and Brix on some big underhanded takeover?

TELL ME!!!

My opinion?  No.

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43 Responses to A Question I’m having trouble getting an answer to:

  1. kidme37 says:

    Just another item lots of people are aware of that the ‘think tank’ has spun anti-Trump. Very simple imo.

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  2. kidme37 says:

    Then you have to wonder what the think tank is selling. Hey Trump is taking your liberty away ! Everyone get on your tricycles, peddle down the street and kiss everyone you meet ! – Joe Biden

    Lots of people seem to not know there are always two sides to the ledger/

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  3. bocopro says:

    Wow! Loaded question alert.

    O.K. First of all, with my pulmonary history, I’m likely a goner if the stuff gets into my system. But, I’ve had a good run, and you can’t just sit and worry about dying, ‘cause it’s gonna happen sooner or later no matter WHAT you do.

    Now, that said, I don’t believe this is all a big plot of some kind . . . merely a mutation of a bug in bats that mastered the cross-species long jump. And believe me . . . the conspiracy theories are out there.

    The most heinous is that it’s all a mechanism for culling the elderly population to reduce their drain on social services and benefits programs: i.e., they no longer contribute, and they drive up costs for health care and pension plans, so let’s get rid of ‘em.

    And the second most scary, based on an existing paradigm, is Agenda 21, which a whole lotta people are in favor of – put people in kennels and corrals, preferably vertical ones, to preserve the environment: no individual travel, work from home, eat synthetic food, all that stuff.

    Sometimes I get this ominous Twilight Zone tingle in which a fuzzy black-and-white déjà vu fragment pops into my consciousness of armed guys in uniform saying, “Don’t worry . . . we have a vaccine now, so get in the boxcar so we can take you for a nice disinfectant shower.”

    Meanwhile, Pelosi and Rahm and Schumer and Clyburn as giddily pushing their own progressive wishlist, extorting the crisis by putting riders on relief legislation, riders which have absolutely nothing to do with remedying or preventing a recurrence of the infection.

    It’s as if the virus has morphed again . . . this time into a stepstool giving libs just enough reach to get into the cookie jar while Mom’s busy tryin to sweep the cockroaches out of the kitchen.

    I mean, good grief! “People are dying! We need nurses, hospitals, ventilators, medicines. Quick – let’s fund the Kennedy Center!!”

    Of course it could turn out to be a blessing in some convoluted ways, such as showing people what life would be like in a socialist state where the shelves are empty and only the rich and powerful get the ventilators and hydroxychloroquine.

    And . . . given a second term with even the slightest support from Congress, DJT might be successful in reviving domestic production of a whole lotta stuff we’ve become totally dependent upon east Asia for in the past 50 years.

    No, I don’t b’lieve it’s all some kind of plot . . . merely the result of really bad judgment by Chairman Xi on how to handle the WetBat Lung Rot and the WHO, who were completely hoodwinked by his lies.

    Throwing water into the fire under the boiler of the strongest economy this nation has seen since WWII was like the coach sticking his foot out and tripping the running back headed for a certain touchdown.

    I am NOT confident that the US economy can recover completely. It’s like the docs told me about my frozen shoulder problem: We can repair it surgically, but you’ll never quite regain full strength, and you’ll very likely lose some range of motion.

    And even if we get the vaccine and it all comes back on line before the stuff re-emerges next fall, it’s as if DJT personally develops a cure for cancer but the fraudstream media excoriates him for putting health-care personnel out of work.

    In fact, that’s already happened in Nevada and Michigan with his comments on anti-malarial medicines, n’est ce-pas?

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  4. kidme37 says:

    boco – HA !

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  5. ACUCHUCK says:

    PORKY PELOSI–Keeps ringing in my ears.

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  6. Mustang says:

    Yesterday, I opined that every official connected to the virus has failed the test. Trump should have consulted with our country’s best experts —not necessarily those in the CDC, but the country’s leading virologists and pathologists. Still, it isn’t up to the experts to make decisions; that’s Trump’s job. I’m also disappointed that Trump hasn’t consulted with all 50 governors, to get their input to the problem as it affects their states, to ask them for their opinions. We are still a federalist republic. It shouldn’t take more than an hour or two to get this done. And then, in concert with experts and state governors, make a decision that is clearly in the interests of the people and our society. That’s what we are paying Mr. Trump to do. Then he needs to deliver an address to the nation, something scripted by an expert speech writer and no deviating from these prepared remarks, which hopefully will tell the American people (1) the truth, (2) what we’re going to do, (3) why, and (4) his expectations of what will happen as a result of his decision … short-term, long term. And then (5) get on with it. That’s my two cents.

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  7. geeez2014 says:

    Bocopro…SO TRUE..”I mean, good grief! “People are dying! We need nurses, hospitals, ventilators, medicines. Quick – let’s fund the Kennedy Center!!””
    And ya…”it’s as if DJT personally develops a cure for cancer but the fraudstream media excoriates him for putting health-care personnel out of work.”
    AND, since Trump is doing quite a good job on all of this, in general, I think those who haven’t liked him are realizing that and so that’s why the media has even stepped UP its hate, its attempts to screw him up at the pressers, etc.

    Kid, which THINK TANK??

    Chuck…PORKY PELOSI?!!!

    Mustang, I’m not sure he hasn’t talked with the best, I’d say Brix is one of them. And we know he’s in constant contact, as are Brix and Pence, with the best….unless he’s lying.. Also, at pressers he’ll frequently talk about phone calls from experts around the world weighing in, answering his and his task force’s questions, but that most of THEM are calling US for input.

    He also talks frequently at his pressers of good conversations with governors across the land…lots individually, even calling some Democrats “great guys” (because they like him now!!, as he even SAYS!~), and lots of group calls. Pence, too. And he’s said he won’t do certain things because we are a federalist republic…there are things THEY must do…and he often says “I’m leaving it up to that governor (if some particular question comes up) because it’s his state and he knows it best”, etc.

    I definitely agree that he might do one big speech, undeviated from (good luck with that!) but I suppose he feels spending 2 hours blabbing from the dais every single day is a good step for the public?

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  8. geeez2014 says:

    KID: actually, that’s exactly my question…you mention THINK TANK…..are the conservatives who are so afraid the gov’t is up to something and “we’ll never be the same!” and “they’re taking over” and “This is what socialism will be like” etc….are they BLAMING TRUMP? TRUMP is behind that stuff? I think not…do you?

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    AND BERNIE SANDERS IS OUT OF THE RACE….

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  10. geeez2014 says:

    They’re saying Biden is going to give Bernie some big position in government if he’s elected, and promise that, because at least 15% of Sanders supporters say they’d never vote Biden.

    AND NOW, FOX IS SAYING WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING FOR TWO WEEKS; SOME ARE WANTING TO DRAFT GOV CUOMO.

    YOU CAN BET THAT’S THE DNC’S DREAM.

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    AND CUOMO IS THE ONE WHO COULD BEAT TRUMP.
    I’M NOT REALLY SURE HOW FAR LEFT CUOMO IS…I DON’T THINK HE IS A SOCIALIST , ETC., BUT HE’S CERTAINLY NO CONSERVATIVE!

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  12. Mustang says:

    I’m not sure America is ready for Michael Corleone as president, but then I didn’t think we were ready for an unqualified nitwit from Chicago, either. We do live in interesting times.

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang, I just hope people see Cuomo for who he is….what a blowhard…so mafia-esque…

    and oh, yes…Obama; They showed a press conference where Obama threw someone who didn’t agree with him OUT while the ‘press’ was chanting OBAMA! OBAMA! in appreciation for their HERO. And then remember when he spied on FOX’s James Rosen and HIS PARENTS? Again, nothing from the media. But he also spied on US via the IRS….
    Then Trump gets total insults for straightening out people with the truth when they try to attack him!??

    Re Lois Lerner and the IRS Spying case…WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THAT? Was it just ignored? Did the courts get it and rule nothing HAD been done? I’ve always wondered how he got away with that. ANYBODY KNOW the end of that story?

    My post for tomorrow is an EYEFUL….oy.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    Bernie’s saying WE ARE A MOVEMENT….and even quotes Dr ML King….he’s leaving no stone unturned….even slamming Trump for lack of ..well…everything…AND how we needed better healthcare to get through this, completely ignoring that Trump ordered nobody with the virus has to pay for getting better!
    “Donald Trump, the most DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN MODERN AMERICAN HISTORY!”

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Oh, Bernie, you are a SWINE. “This race is not about me. We must keep organizing and fighting…to become COMMUNIST RUSSIA!” (the last part is mine!)

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  15. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO…by the way, that was QUITE a comment….lots of very clever stuff in there…I know we all enjoyed it so much!!

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  16. bocopro says:

    Merci. C’est un plaisir.

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    I WISH you were all watching the Cuomo briefing today! He’s now on WHY ARE BLACKS GETTING THE VIRUS IN LARGER NUMBERS (1%?)….
    “It wasn’t white rich people on those roofs in hurricane Katrina…why was it poor black families?”

    “It’s Blacks who are driving the buses and putting their lives in jeopardy during this virus…it’s Blacks doing essential jobs……”

    “We need to find out WHY THIS IS…..is it because they’re poor and live closer together? That’s not fair!”

    “I have asked my Director of (Z: i didn’t catch that exactly) of ?? here in NYC to find out WHY and find out NOW… we need to move forward and figure these things out!”

    And I AM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT…. (that was my addition, but it WAS there…)

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  18. Epidemiology is not our POTUS’s wheelhouse. Not by a long shot! And that lack was apparent from the git-go.

    I’m not sure that he could have done much better than he has done.

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  19. geeez2014 says:

    AOW, that’s why he isn’t in charge but put Pence, who’d dealt with an epidemic in Indiana years ago and Pence got experts.

    They blame Trump for being late, for not having tests, when his explanations have been perfectly believable…the first tests weren’t accurate, etc. Lying? Maybe, but he’s pretty on top of this.

    I’m astonished at the questions they throw at him and he’s got a LOT of info on every topic but then hands it over to experts when he doesn’t.

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  20. Mustang says:

    Of interest (possibly). DJT is no stranger to viruses. http://vassarbushmills.com/?p=69054

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  21. Sparky says:

    I’ll have to admit that I’ve struggled with this same dilemma Z, the same question. But I don’t see President Trump deliberately infringing on our rights as citizens. He’s proven himself in too many ways as a true Patriot. Not all of us get the “whys” and “wherefores” of Science nor Medicine. I think he was either misinformed or an accidental tool of the Left. He’s not our LORD Jesus and as an fallible man, can get the same bad information as anyone. I think history will prove that shutting down all these healthy economies for such a long time was a mistake. Just my two cents. I could be wrong too. 🙂

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang..what a disdainful article!! The German thing is really not like JFK and Roman Catholicism at all. I just Googled and Eisenhower and Hoover had fathers of German extraction, too, so Trump wasn’t the first. I doubt only 3 have German blood since so many Americans have some, but…OK, that’s the statistic. So Trump isn’t alone. And why would he mention his ancestry? He has mentioned the Scottish thing, I believe, but maybe Drumpf is a black sheep? We have one in our family! WHen she was dying in the same retirement home my sainted Grandma was so we had to go often, plus the black sheep was my grandpa’s sister so I went for HIM, we were embarrassed to ask for her…they’d look at us as if “YOU’re related to ANN!?” 🙂 (what a story that is! and they didn’t even know the story just how nasty she was in general!)

    It is absolutely VERY weird that Trump hasn’t mentioned his grandfather dying in the pandemic of 2018 because he mentions that flu frequently….in comparison, etc. Odd!!! I couldn’t tell from that piece if the writer hates him …I think so, though!!

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  23. geeez2014 says:

    Sparky, I agree…if DJT is anything, he is a PATRIOT. I just don’t get it. Or maybe there IS no ‘cabal’ working against us, these conservatives are wrong, and this is all just bad luck with this hideous virus and we’re doing all we can? And shutting down was the best idea? We all have to admit that did work, at least we think so.
    I heard a doc this morning talk about the differences of the regular flu and this virus because I was one of the first to say “If the flu’s killed 50,000 and this virus will kill far less, why are we going to this extent NOW?”
    The doc explained how horribly contagious this was and how horrible it is on end-stage disease…much harder ending…horrid lung damage that can’t be solved. And NO VACCINES. Let’s not forget, the regular flu deaths occur in SPITE of the vaccines….but mostly elderly.

    Ya, Sparky, I don’t think Trump would ever do anything like what some conservatives suggest…but I kept asking here and on FB “but TRUMP is who’s shutting things down, etc., is HE involved in the loss of freedoms?” and they’d shut down…Silence; no answer.

    We’ve now lost more than 14,000…it was about 6,000 two days ago.

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  24. kidme37 says:

    Z, Think Tank.

    There is a group of people being paid by (fill in your own blank, ie soros for example) who looks at everything that happens every day, analyzes it and if they can spin it negative Trump, they do so and everyone on the left, politicians and media people has an email in their inbox by 5 AM with the talking points to hammer Trump and the GOP with.

    Literally.

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  25. kidme37 says:

    Trump behind any of it? I think of Trump the same way I think of George S Patton. Not everyone in American government was invested in defeating the Germans during WWII but by God George Patton sure as hell was.

    In this case, i don’t think DJT will be enough to beat back the evil, but it’s a nice break in the meantime.

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  26. kidme37 says:

    Again Z. Think Tank. Think British spy service during WWII. Groups of people working 24/7 to undermine the Germans with everything the Germans were working on. Same deal here. These morons in media don’t come up with this stuff themselves. Most of them probably need help putting on their underwear. Guess I can’t underline it any ore than that.

    It’s war. It’s literally war for the left.

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  27. Sparky says:

    The virus is deadly for those with compromised immunity’s and/or existing upper respiratory problems. When Hubby and I had it and practically the whole Church, or one similar to it, last year it was nasty. After the fever and so forth it was The-Cough-That-Wouldn’t-Leave. Took about a month to get completely over it but I never felt like I was gonna die. My lungs are healthy, though. Don’t smoke, don’t overindulge, not grossly overweight, etc.
    BUT, then there’s this The Coronavirus Explained at YouTube. I’m not sure of the source. Hopefully they don’t have a nefarious agenda but are only sharing the truth as they know it. Does anybody else keep getting conflicting info on the virus? I think even the “experts” are confused by this one, at the moment. For now, at least 97% of those afflicted are surviving. That’s good news.

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  28. kidme37 says:

    Lifting lockdowns? Could be Z. I’m a proponent of letting people unlikely to be very affected by the disease to run wild in the streets, catch it, and product anti-bodies against it so that they are no longer carriers of it. Then for older or vulnerable, let them self-isolate if they want/can. I’m no medical expert but I think the idea has merit.

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  29. kidme37 says:

    Imagine Bernie conceding to a guy who can’t remember the name of the last president that he served as VP with or what state he is in today LOL….

    Racism – a major arrow in the dem quiver.

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  30. MAL says:

    Despite everything, I’m still thankful for Trump. While no one is perfect, he’s done a remarkable job and under extreme duress by the Dems. Who could’ve done as well, let alone better? He is a true patriot, ergo, not “in on it” to take control.

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  31. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, if it was the LEFT, I’d say OF COURSE! They hate the country as it is, they hate Trump, they hate us Bible carrying gun totin’ patriots.

    But that’s the obvious! The less obvious is conservatives suggesting that this group is sinking our country but closing down businesses and churches and sporting events when it doesn’t look like it was needed…..SO HERE IS MY QUESTION:

    IF THAT’S THE CASE, AND IT’S TRUMP AND ALL HIS PEOPLE CLOSING US ALL DOWN, IS HE IN THIS GROUP? PART OF THIS WHAT YOU CALL ‘THINK TANK’?

    Lefties is the obvious answer to all America’s problems, right!? But if conservatives are saying IT’S ALL GOING WRONG and TRUMP IS THE LEADER…is HE leading us WRONG?

    I don’t think so.

    Sparky, thanks for that…. I can’t tell you how many people I know who have been REALLY sick, coughing for weeks, weak, pain………just like you had it. I do believe they had this virus in varying extremes.
    I’m fighting something for about 3 weeks. SHARP pains in thighs every few days, no fever, no cough, but just not 100%….Probably nothing but definitely ‘not me’…..throat’s getting sore so I’m going to go gargle with warm water/salt. And I depend on AIRBORN, which is REALLY good for anything that ails me and is probably why I haven’t been really sick.

    MAL! I’m with you on this,,, Trump is NOT ‘in on this’…but he’s DOING what the conservative accusers are saying they hate, so…..
    i believe he’s TOTALLY on AMerica’s side.

    Again, today, I saw about 30 minutes of him and man, that man KNOWS the details….every detail of every subject. He’s waaaay smarter than I thought, and I never thought he was dumb!!

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  32. Baysider says:

    No, but there are lots of people who are, and want an opportunity to step on our freedoms. I think the guys are the local levels, on the ‘front lines’ are just trying to do their job, protect people, etc., with the best information they are given.

    Trump’s right, we can’t let the cure be worse than the sickness. I caught a very detailed and sobering discussion about how the test for this virus actually works. It’s not so straightforward as “yes” or “no” you have it. It’s a brilliant concept, and the creator was awarded a Nobel prize for it – and he has been publicly adamant that the test can’t be used to prove viral causation. Virologists would traditionally follow a proving protocol first (no public knowledge that this has been done). Then you ‘tune’ the test to a sweet spot. If it’s too low, you get nothing. If it’s too high, everyone ‘has’ it.

    My God, Mr. Trump can’t help but trying to punch his way out of a paper bag if experts are too – and not just ‘his.’

    Mustang at 8:23 + a very enthusiastic 1!

    And I LOVED this bp – “It’s as if the virus has morphed again . . . this time into a stepstool giving libs just enough reach to get into the cookie jar while Mom’s busy tryin to sweep the cockroaches out of the kitchen.”

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  33. kidme37 says:

    Trump is not in the think tank.

    Imagine Trump and family members trying to save America byn putting their personal lives and businesses up to ridicule and abuse. Imagine everyone else in it for self-enrichment including the head GOP guy Mitch McChuckles.. If you can vizualize that then you got it.

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  34. As to your question about Trump and what conservatives should think about it, I asked that question a couple days ago on my blog.
    And on Facebook.
    Not a lot of response.
    Trump has not locked the country down.
    The first lockdowns were Dem governors.
    Then it became a snowball and it would be hard to stand up to the motion.
    Trump has been asking people to stay home, not ordering them.
    Trump now has to stand up to the over reach.
    My bet is that he will.
    He was asked by a kid, er “journalist”, at a briefing the other day why hed didn’t order a national lockdown, and he answered , “The Constitution.”
    He should have suggested she read it.

    POSTED ON APRIL 8, 2020 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN CORONAVIRUS, LIBERALS
    ARE WE STILL AMERICANS?
    David Horowitz, among others, has noted that “Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.” We see that today, as state governments assert the power, often illegally, to tell the rest of us how to live our lives, and to shut down hundreds of thousands of businesses.
    In Colorado, a man was playing with his six-year-old daughter in a park with no one else within a vast distance, when he was arrested by a group of police officers–wrongly, based on signs at the park–who themselves failed to follow guidelines as to use of masks, gloves, and social distancing. Happily, there was one person close enough to film what happened:

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  35. kidme37 says:

    Yep, Trump has not ordered a national lock down because of the Constitution. I agree with it.

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  36. CharleyC says:

    I think that when this Wu Flu scare started, the president thought that he was getting good information. Only too late did he realize that he was getting propaganda. I believe that President Trump chose to present a unified leadership as opposed to a bickering fight which is why he has not hammered the “experts” for their wildly wrong projections.
    The president was not in on the scam to shut down America. Look at the difference in response between democrat run states/cities and republican run ones.
    The democrats saw this Wu Flu as a chance to accomplish many things, not the least of which were; deflect from the impending investigations into their illegal actions in Ukraine and elsewhere; stuff any relief bill with major socialist items that would never pass on their own; and take out the president.
    America needs to get back to work. Senators from both parties who profited from insider information need to be removed. Biden and his corrupt family need to be indicted. And let’s not forget about Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Clinton and the rest of the traitors. Justice needs to force its way to the front.
    Vote in November for your life depends on it and then be prepared to defend and fight for the government that we elect.

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  37. geeez2014 says:

    DO MOST OF YOU THINK TRUMP WENT ALONG TO GET ALONG? LET’S FACE IT, WE DON’T LIKE SHUTTING THE COUNTRY DOWN, OR PRACTICALLY DESTROYING OUR ECONOMY AND, REALLY, WHEN THE HECK DID WE THINK GOVERNMENT MONEY SHOULD BE USED AS IT’S BEING USED NOW?

    Ed, do you think he can or will stand up to over reach? How? I’d like to see it….I agree with you.

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  38. geeez2014 says:

    WOWZIR, CharleyC….great stuff here, thanks for coming by and that good insight.
    Ya, what happened to the Durham Report, the FISA investigation? Some of us were asking that here yesterday…..ALL FORGOTTEN?
    Thank you VERY MUCH. You can BET we’ll vote because we ALL know here at GeeeZ that if Trump doesn’t win, we’re DONE, “Bye bye, Miss American Pie” as I’ve said far too many times around here lately!! Scary times. Be safe.

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  39. He keeps talking about getting the nation back to work.
    Bloggers and social media like ourselves are pointing out the need and the over reach.
    The media is the larger culprit here.
    The UAW shutting down the Automakers is killing the suppliers who operate on short margins.
    Those are jobs.
    People I talk to realize the buy-off isn’t good in the long run even thought they’re willing to take a couple weeks off.
    Trump needs to know he can move without the media killing him because he moved.
    We the Thinking need to support him in that.

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  40. This picture has had hundreds of shares.
    People are getting it.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=2807158192653159&set=a.215074421861562

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  41. geeez2014 says:

    Ed, I’m not sure death tolls are off here in America; that would be difficult to stage/lie about…they most surely are under reporting from China.
    I do, however, hate that people with a heart attack who happen to have COVID are being registered as having died of COVID instead of the heart attack which took them; and it seemed to me that Dr Brix was approving of that somehow? Couldn’t quite get what she was saying .

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  42. I’m sorry if I was not clearer.
    The numbers reported as deaths are deaths.
    The deaths are far under the predictions that the dempanic is predicated on.
    And as you (and many others) point out, the deaths are not all attributable to Covid even though they are being reported as such.
    There’s money to be collected by a death being attributed to Covid.

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