“In a blockbuster ruling on Thursday, the Supreme Court struck down President Donald Trump’s efforts to stop New York investigators from obtaining his financial records.

In Trump v. Vance, the court ruled 7-2 in favor of the Manhattan district attorney’s office, which subpoenaed Trumps’s tax returns as it investigates whether he or his business violated state laws.

The court also ruled against Trump in a second case in which the president sued his accounting firm and bank to stop them from complying with congressional subpoenas for his financial records. The justices ruled 7-2 in Trump v. Mazars USA that Congress has the power to subpoena the president’s financial records, but it also sent the case down to the lower courts to assess “separation of powers concerns.”

This probably won’t change voters’ minds….many have voted already, anyway, but Trump could go to jail if a lot is revealed, like if he did pay Stormey Daniels (do they list that stuff in tax records?  PAID STORMY DANIELS A MILLION BUCKS TO HAVE SEX WITH ME ???)

and WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?    Are Indians going to tell American cities to get off their land now?

ALso, God forgive me, I just have to say this, too.   I DESPISE NANCY PELOSI.

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  1. peter3nj says:

    Looks like the money is being spread around almost the entire court. Dirty politics coming from the left has no bearing on this autonomous court: (in Kantian moral philosophy) acting in accordance with one’s moral duty rather than one’s desires- or bad law may i add.

    As for the whothefugarewe tribe, notorious for enslaving fellow tribes along with cannibalism surely they can make better use of the land than civilized racist white men.


  2. geeez2014 says:

    You made me laugh again! the ‘whothefugarewe tribe’! Yes, I think that’s true…what do civilized racist white men know, surely it’s an accident they built this amazing country..!!!!!!

    Tell me more about what you mean in your first paragraph…you surely don’t mean real ‘money’, right? i hope?!!

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    BY the way, who wants a president who, when or if reelected, can THEN get records revealed that will completely consume his next four years with lawsuits, ugly stories, etc? OY

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  4. I cannot write what I think.
    The ramifications on all three rulings are enormous. Maybe.
    It sounds like Gorsuch played the strict constitutionalist as we would hope, not legislating from the bench. But half of Oklahoma going to a tribe?
    As to Trump taxes, it would be really cool to find that he had trolled the left.
    Now let’s go after Obama’s records…..


  5. geeez2014 says:

    Ed, I know what you mean and I thank you for not writing what you think 🙂 yes, huge ramifications.
    Sadly, his taxes might come out AFTER the election and, if reelected, who’d have time to govern? Maybe that’s the plan “Keep him busy”
    Also, are they going to find Stormy Daniels checks? Do tax returns of rich men REALLY make notes like:
    STORMY DANIELS…$50K for letting me do her last weekend”?

    OH, if ONLY he’d trolled the Left! Sadly, he didn’t know that he should in the years that he paid taxes!

    By the way, you won’t like this, but here’s what I wrote on FB in response to an article about the Idiot Whitmer saying she won’t back down on not reopening:
    “OK. Then all the people in her state who DO want to reopen should ‘;peacefully protest’,, just outnumber her and her minions….like BLM and ANTIFA do. But, they don’t…they won’t. So stop complaining, Michiganders.”

    Because I get such silly criticism of my state, I rarely mention it, and I NEVER call out in negative ways the states of the people I love here….and I didn’t mean to demonize all Michiganders …BUT I mean this on a larger scale…it was a perfect time to say how I feel:

    I don’t mean rape, murder, pillage and loot…I mean REAL PEACEFUL PROTESTS….and we’re not. So, we’re screwed. But not like Stormy Daniels.

    HEH HEH! 🙂


  6. peter3nj says:

    Now if only the pre land bridge cavemen would claim the land as theirs it would be tied up in court long after the coming gulags are in operation making all claims moot.

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  7. geeez2014 says:

    He’s saying we need to PERSUADE again…Politicians must try to PERSUADE! (not “TRY AND PERSuADE”, by the way)

    YES YES YES! it’s what I’ve been saying for months about Trump….when I say “EXPLAIN WHAT YOU DID, TRUMP! DOn’t just do things…EXPLAIN, people deserve to know what and WHY!”

    YES, PERSUADE………Gowdy often gets it right, no matter how some of you don’t like him.

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  8. bocopro says:

    My confidence in SCotUS as an impartial defender of the Constitution, and especially the Bill of Rights, has withered and blown away with the political winds generated by ignorant mau-maus demanding that US history be rewritten to show that everything was created by Africans, Arabs, or Aztecs.

    The justices are seated because of some predecessor’s death or retirement and nominated by a biased politician. Period. For their entire tenure, they serve merely as delayed reminders of the policies of the party, and the PotUS, which elevated them to the Olympus of Murkan jurisprudence.

    Roberts, no more conservative than Colin Powell, is the exception to that rule. He doesn’t like Trump and will rule against him at every opportunity. He’s basically a poll-watcher, an appeaser, a quisling. As far as conservatives are concerned, he shouldn’t be called “Justice” but “Judas.”

    Actually, that’s not entirely true, is it? I mean, he was put on the court by Dubya, who doesn’t like Trump either, so he’s just parroting and perpetuating the personality of his nominator, true to form.

    I don’t trust the court these days to do what’s best for the country. In fact, I don’t think they’re entirely competent to KNOW what’s best for the country, having been in the rarified atmosphere of courts and contradictory rulings and political pressure for decades.

    Going to the US Supreme Court these days to get justice is probably most analogous to going to The View to get advice. Those 9 out-of-touch pontificators are nothing more than social justice warriors in peignoirs. They make a quarter-million bucks/annum in salary and probably wouldn’t know what the hell to do if they had a flat tire on a dirt road and their smartfone battery was dead.


  9. MAL says:

    I believe folks have the right to know if someone has paid their taxes and could ask the IRS, but thats it. Their finances should be kept private and be shown on a voluntary basis only.

    As to the Indian claims, I believe its a little late now. Shouldn’t the statute of limitations apply here? And if not, how about the Mexicans…..or the Spaniards. And if we hadn’t taken it, another country most certainly would’ve but not been as cooperative as we’ve been. We not only allowed them their own territory, a nation within a nation if you will, we also furnish them with many benefits, like health care. In the 1991’s after my son graduated and got his DDS, while he awaited approval from Washington State dental board for his license, he was paid by the government to provide dentistry for a local tribe.

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  10. MAL says:

    The “whothefugarewe” reminded me of a joke where when the white man came and drove a small tribe of Indians to the top of a mountain, and the chief looked north, south, east, then west and said:
    “Wherethefugawee?” and thus were known by that name thereafter!

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    Bocopro “The justices are seated because of some predecessor’s death or retirement and nominated by a biased politician. Period. For their entire tenure, they serve merely as delayed reminders of the policies of the party, and the PotUS,”

    Which is hideous……and you’re right… humiliating.
    Gone are the days of Scalia and his integrity…I’m sure there were even some Lefties, who actually DID decide based on the Constitution………NOT ANYMORE.

    “Going to the US Supreme Court these days to get justice is probably most analogous to going to The View to get advice”

    Yup. This morning, I’ve pretty much decided I can’t stand another SECOND of the damage the F*ing left is doing to America and may need to even stop blogging. Talk me out of it, please. This mood stinks.
    And I have to Zoom this afternoon with my sisters, one of whom’s a big Obama fan (all others are with me) who even has grandchildren she doesn’t realize her vote will cause to walk the socialist plank if Trump isn’t reelected. #W$(*&*@#$(*&@#($*&@#(*&
    We will NOT talk politics.

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    MAL…”I believe folks have the right to know if someone has paid their taxes and could ask the IRS, but thats it. Their finances should be kept private and be shown on a voluntary basis only.”

    I could NOT agree with you more. They can’t knock on OUR door and say ‘WE WANT TO SEE YOUR TAXES” Why TRUMP or any other president?

    And, oh, sure….FREE DENTAL HELP FOR THE TRIBE. Not us, right? Well, not ME, you can because your son’s a dentist 🙂

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  13. The old joke is that the right doesn’t protest. They are all at work.
    Covid was the only thing that freed up (and motivated) people to go to Lansing.


  14. kidme37 says:

    You don’t like Nana eh Z ?

    Well, we know DJT’s tax returns will remain Strictly Confidential in the hands of the New Yoik Commies…


  15. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, yes, NO LEAKS on his taxes 🙂 HAAA! I don’t “not like”her…I HATE HER, God forgive me…

    Ed, ya, I’ve heard that old joke……’s too true, isn’t it!!


  16. bocopro says:

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  17. kidme37 says:

    Z, You’re coming along to my way of thinking. I’d do the deed in any official capacity on (pick any democrat politician), especially these satanic beasts.

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  18. Mustang says:

    About those damn Indians: they were Americans before we were and insofar as Oklahoma is concerned, Congress gave up half of it to use for Indian resettlement and then changed its mind. It is about time Congress was held to account for all its misdeeds.

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  19. Baysider says:

    Mustang + 1

    The minute something valuable comes up on Indian land somebody is going to want it. (Well, everywhere, but the swindle point on Indian land is narrowed more to a federal gatekeeper.) Read Killers of the Flower Moon about a series of murders of Osage indians in the early 20th century. After oil was found.

    I LOVED this from Gorsuch’s opinion: “saving the political branches the embarrassment of disestablishing a reservation is not one of our constitutionally assigned prerogatives.” Too much of that tomfoolery has happened by a court waving its magic wand. I found this gratifying.

    I have long said the greatest injustice done by this country was not, I repeat NOT slavery. Slavery was everywhere for all time and continues on after we abolished it here. But making treaties with entities you treat as sovereign nations then breaking your word. THAT is shameful and dishonors a nation. Like now, it shows men either weren’t thinking through the ramifications of their actions or wanted to kick the can down the road. Well here we are, down the road. Mustang + 1 again.

    Don’t feel bad. God hates Nancy Pelosi too. Even though He died for her, Proverbs 6 says God hates arrogant (haughty) eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers. Which of those does not apply to Pelosi?

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  20. Baysider: Excellent use of Scripture!


  21. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang and Baysider…the only really valuable thing that’s recently happened on Indian land is what White America built on it…

    That they were mistreated is known and true and awful. So you’re both thinking Congress should give it back because Congress has done ‘misdeeds’? I feel a bit differently about it than you both do, but killings on both sides, brutal ones, certainly have been acknowledge. Well, at least the Indian on American settlers is.
    Or allow them to open hugely successful gambling casinos and not pay taxes? Or give free medical and dental with our college interns? or..??
    Free health care, college tuition grants, temporary assistance for needy families, food stamps and the Food Distribution Program on Indian Reservations is pretty good, I THINK.

    Trump’s actually done some good things for them lately, too. I’m a big Native American admirer; culture, basketry, other arts, etc………I think we’ve all benefited.

    What do you two suggest by which America can atone?


  22. Baysider says:

    Nevertheless, we conquered territory and made agreements with the conquered. I don’t offer atonement. Only stick to our treaties, or re-negotiate. We chose not to wipe them out to a man, or enslave and relocate – just think if Genghis Khan had overrun them. Freebies don’t help and I don’t know how much of that is in our treaties. I think the paternalistic liberal has been doing that stuff to ‘atone.’ It certainly smacks of racism of low expectations, although I know specific cases where Indians for sure were put in the place of being dependent as they were moved off of land and did not have a choice. What is in the agreement? We have an obligation to honor it.

    When 2 semi-independent entities are allowed overlapping claims to the same territory it’s just plain trouble. My best friend’s father was assassinated in his position adjudicating such claims in the Philippines which ran long and deep between the conquered and the conquereror.

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  23. Mustang says:

    I can’t answer for Ms. Bay. But I think your question is too general. Atone for what? Slavery? No one alive today is responsible for slavery in this country. No one in my family in America owned slaves or traded in human bondage back to 1638. If anyone pays reparations to blacks for slavery, let it be those who profited from it: Muslim slave traders, Portuguese and Spanish slavers, English aristocrats who bought, worked, or sold slaves, and the 12,000 free blacks in America who owned 150,000 slaves. Blacks have received enough free stuff in this country. Debt paid in full.

    As to the Indian question (setting aside the conflict between them and westward migrating whites), the US government signed a contract with some of the tribes; in exchange for their surrender —large grants of land that no one at the time wanted. In other instances, such as the Cherokee in GA, the US government arbitrarily arrested them, forced their migrations to Oklahoma, and stole their land. The Cherokee were not alone in this. In both cases, the government cheated Americans. So, do we want a just society, or not? Shouldn’t we do the right and reasonable thing to achieve justice? What is right and fair? We should let them have their half of Oklahoma to do with as they see fit.

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    Mustang and Baysider…
    Yes! And TULSA is in the area considered Native American land……let’s give up TULSA. 🙂

    As I said above, I think Indians continue to have quite some good reparations, but ya “let’s give them half of Oklahoma to do what as they see fit!” Give them TULSA because GORSUCH suggests OPTIMISM 🙂

    “In reaching our conclusion about what the law demands of us today, we do not pretend to foretell the future and we proceed well aware of the potential for cost and conflict around jurisdictional boundaries, especially ones that have gone unappreciated for so long. But it is unclear why pessimism should rule the day. With the passage of time, Oklahoma and its Tribes have proven they can work successfully together as partners,” he wrote.”

    We can only hope …HA!! mAN. that IS OPTIMISM, FOR sure.


  25. bunkerville says:

    Let’s give California back to Spain… I am sure there is some misdeed we did…..Please?


  26. MAL says:

    Bunker, IMO that would be ceding back the best state in the union.


  27. MAL says:

    Geographically speaking, that is!


  28. geeez2014 says:

    Bunkerville, it’s my state …I have always loved it and continue to do so.

    I think we all need to open our eyes and realize California’s not much worse than most other states. Thanks.

    MAL: GOD BLESS YOU…Geographically and in SO MANY other ways…


  29. MAL says:

    Yep! They ruined our state. So sad. We lived the best years, didn’t we? Actually, we ALL have, but esp. Californians.


  30. geeez2014 says:

    Mal…it’s pretty darned great still….but ya….esp. California.


  31. geeez2014 says:

    Which is why so many are so quick to criticize tho SO many other states are SO screwy!!


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