“Whatever you do, don’t debate Trump,” he (Clinton  promoter) wrote on CNN. “Trump has made more than 20,000 misleading or false statements according to the Washington Post. It’s a fool’s errand to enter the ring with someone who can’t follow the rules or the truth. Biden will undoubtedly take heat from Republicans and the media for skipping the debates. But it’s worth the risk as trying to debate someone incapable of telling the truth is an impossible contest to win. ”

Think those are the reasons any leftie thinks Biden shouldn’t debate? 🙂  I don’t.

By the way, TALK ABOUT A LIAR…yes, sadly, Trump has been caught in a TON of non factual comments…but BIDEN?  Has lied his whole career…………..

Still, why does being unable to tell the truth keep one from debating?



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48 Responses to Up for DEBATE

  1. bocopro says:

    Plagiarism Joe has fallen from the heights of the Senate into a rotten tree and stumbled out onto a rickety limb by establishing skin tone as the primary criterion for selecting a running mate.

    He has pandered his mortally wounded integrity, bragged himself into a box, painted himself into a corner, dug himself into a grave, and rasseled himself into a bind by sucking up to the black vote for a job which is as far beyond his capacity as giving live birth is to mine.

    To keep his word, he now must choose between

    Susan Rice, a career propagandist, professional perjurer, and deep-state torpedo;

    Karen Bass, a brain-dead socialist who only last week became aware of the fact that her hero Fidel was not a nice guy;

    Val Demings, a professional LEO at a time when BLM and the hard left want to defund and dismantle law enforcement organizations;

    “Tank” Abrams, the greatest single threat to the nation’s supply of carbs and lipids, who would need to abdicate as imaginary Georgia governor to accept the role;

    and Kamala “Horizontal” Harris, the many-headed hydra of Kaliphonya, who has the loyalty of a crocodile, the integrity of a hyena, and the charm of a honey badger.

    Sending “Hairy Legs” Joe into a debate with Don Tweeto would be analogous to putting Nadless Nadler into a cage match with Machete Trejo. If he does it, he comes out exsanguinated and shredded, and if he bails, he looks like a wuss.

    Gropey Joe’s biggest liability is his mouth, which he runs like a big-block Chevy on a warped eccentric cam and a faulty fuel pump which completely overloads his rusted-out broken-hanger Pinto ass.

    He’d be better off ducking the face-to-face and staying in sniper mode from his basement. DJT would suffocate him in nyah-nyahs and sarcasm, but that’s better than being impaled with his own petard and thrown to the scavengers on the colosseum sand.

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  2. kidme37 says:

    Democrat voters could not care less whether Joe debates. He could be lying on a gurney filled with IV’s and in a coma and the democrat voters would vote for him.

    Democrats would vote for a fictional character championed by CNN. I think a fictional character could do even better than Joe. They could be a different person depending on the demographic. – A black nondescript gender short tall person with yellow stripes in San Francisco and a shape-shifting alien from the Vega system with an IQ of 3,482 and who had solved climate change on his/her native planet hundreds of years ago. One day she’d be an irresistible female of light green color for the male gender favoring individuals and the next day a bronze Sean Connery, aged 37 for the ladies or anyone wishing they were. Vote for Sean Chloe and get a chance at an all expense paid date with this person.

    Joe is not going to debate DJT. This I will tell you.

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  3. Mustang says:

    First, understand that presidential debates were an invention of the news industry, designed to sell papers, magazines, and advertising space on televised media. Not-very-bright politicians, whores all, fell into this trap, and we’ve been stuck on stupid ever since. We can ignore the Lincoln-Douglas debates because (a) they were vying for a seat in the US Senate from Illinois, and (b) they happened so long ago that they are no longer relevant. We can also ignore Willkie’s attempt because FDR refused to accept the challenge. Our only point of reference, then, is the first presidential debate, which occurred in 1960, won by a fellow who had a closer shave than his opponent. Seriously? Because Nixon’s performance in the debate was far superior to that of JFK. Well, as history shows us, neither of them was a particularly great president. We remember one because he managed to get himself assassinated, and the other one managed to disgrace himself.

    So then, what do we expect to learn from presidential debates? That political operatives are dishonest? That presidential candidates are, in the final analysis, liars? The other day, I heard Biden say, in one of his campaign ads, that it’s time to get small businesses back on their feet and (in the very next sentence) spoke of cleaning up the environment. Are small businessmen really that stupid, to imagine that Biden won’t tax them into oblivion? Do we need a presidential debate to know, in the deep recesses of our minds, which of the two platforms are best for America’s long-term interests?

    My point is that if we need to have a multi-gazillion dollar televised debate (Barnum & Bailey would be so proud) to help us figure out who we ought to support, then in all honesty, the Republic is already dead … and rather than having another “do nothing” presidential debate, we should have instead a full blown funeral ceremony. The latter would be far more honest, far more productive, and far more fun to watch … don’t you think?

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  4. The last debates that affected for whom I ultimately voted were the GWB-Gore debates. I’m not sure why I was on the fence back then, but I was.

    Kid is spot on with this comment: Democrat voters could not care less whether Joe debates. He could be lying on a gurney filled with IV’s and in a coma and the democrat voters would vote for him.

    Mustang is spot on, too: Barnum & Bailey would be so proud.

    I can’t imagine that Biden will debate Trump. Biden is feeble and senile. When he appears cogent for a few moments, he’s probably been shot up with B Vitamins and vasodilators. That combination kept my grandmothers somewhat cogent — until they quit working.

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  5. Mustang says:

    As a postscript, has anyone ever considered the “psychological warfare” aspects of presidential contests and the news media’s part in putting it all together? In 1960, NBC decided (not the GOP or DNC) that blue should represent Democrats and red should represent Republicans.

    What do psychologists tell us about human reactions to these color schemes?

    Blue: Often found in nature, pale blue of a daytime sky or the rich dark blue of a pool of soothing water. It generates feelings that range from calm and serene to cold and indifferent. Who identifies most with blue? Blue collar workers, of course, blacks (the color purple), people who disassociate themselves from “America the Beautiful.”

    Red: Represents deep anger, hostile intensity, associated with Nazi Germany’s red flag, and in language, such words and phrases as “better red than dead,” “redneck,” “red hot,” “caught red handed,” “seeing red,” “the color of blood.”

    So, convince me that the media isn’t manipulating the American people. Presidential debates are all part of that campaign.

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  6. kidme37 says:

    Mustang, I favor the funeral ceremony. It could be MC’d by all the black rappers who haven’t been killed by another black rapper yet. (I mention ‘black’ because Vanilla Ice is still kickin as far as I know)

    Imagine the floats rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue filled with every deviant, perverted, naked slime devil known to man. The last float would contain all the democrat politicians shouting through bullhorns “We Killed America !” (those who’s dentures hadn’t fallen out yet or could otherwise still enunciate) while the crowds cheered wildly.

    The kids would all wake up sometime the next day with a terrible hangover wondering what happens next. No one knew except China and Russia.


  7. kidme37 says:

    AOW, Thanks and good point. Yes, they could spike Biden’s blood stream to keep him from trying to sniff all the female CNN debate moderators as well as put two words together that belonged together and could be found within the confines of an English language dictionary.

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  8. kidme37 says:

    Mustang – Red vs Blue. Wow, I never thought about that but it must absolutely be true.

    I remember back to when PC’s were first being sold that Microsoft had a study done to determine the best color to use as a basic color for Windows. The conclusion was a silvery sheen blue.


  9. kidme37 says:

    Also Red: The color of Hell, the number 666 is often in red. Red Firetrucks – fire-danger-hot-pain, Red rose, thorn-Ouch. The red color is always associated with passion, anger, and danger, the exact opposite of what democrats are interested in.

    A lot of people think the democat politic controls the media. I’ve been thinking lately that it is the other way around. Not all of the media, as people like don lemon are morons, but rather a think tank of individuals actually controlling the democrats. I just can’t believe democrats are smart enough to come up with these things on their own. Given that the media manipulates we can easily recognize that the entire democrat political strategy is to manipulate.

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  10. Mustang says:

    @ Kid

    I agree, but would expand that notion to include all political strategies. They are all designed to manipulate. It’s easy to do, too, since American voters seem incapable of thinking/reasoning for themselves. But in our system, we only get to choose between bad and worse. Voting is a duty –so we are frequently reminded, but I sometimes wonder if “not voting” is as much a responsibility as well. You know, among people who are capable of reason. People imagine that clothespins were designed for hanging out the laundry; I think they were designed to help people vote.

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    And, of course, the word most of us have heard is that RED was chosen to become the Republican color because of COMMUNISM. The Left at NBC didn’t like Democrats being saddled with any whiff of red because, let’s face it…..it fit them better in actuality.

    It doesn’t matter to me who started debates or any of what else swirls around them; they often have given me a chance to see a man in action, in the way he can respond, in the way he knows the material. They’ve been helpful to me.

    The Left doesn’t want ANY of what I just listed to be seen from Biden because it will not be pretty…we all know that.

    BOCOPRO! I agree…Biden is STUMPED now because he’s finally figured out what a dreadful list of women that is…
    And I LOVE your list and how you see them………I heard just this morning that most Dems who know Kamala do NOT LIKE HER. The reason for that is clear at hearings where her unbelievable MEANNESS is so well exhibited.
    I do have a friend who served on some Board with her….the one good thing she could say was she’s beautifully dressed and put together 🙂

    KID, if Joe doesn’t debate DJT, it’ll be a whirlwind of conjecture and thoughts like “See? Joe just isn’t smart enough.. He can’t be president!” So the Left has to figure THAT out. 🙂

    MUSTANG…yes, EVERYTHING is manipulation these days……… Absolutely everything….
    I’m hoping for debates as those are the least manipulative offerings; They’re naked on stage…set to go.

    BY the way, did you all see how an MSNBC producer quit and wrote a letter that she can’t be involved with an agenda which demands journalists only cover one side? 🙂 Something MAY be happening. …OR only I will have seen it and then, who cares? 😦

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  12. MAL says:

    There is no one who could win a debate with Trump. No one. Even if Joe was like he was at his best, he’d be easy fodder for Trump. Trump is a past master at debating. He is so much sharper than anyone in politics today from either party, he would win, so of course Joe will not debate him.
    Trump and the GOP should keep egging him to, however, and keep bugging him.

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    Off Topic; I haven’t cringed QUITE so badly as when Trump wrote that Dr Brix is ‘pathetic’…for having said COVID is appearing more and more in rural areas..
    He says it’s because she capitulated to Pelosi who’d accused Brix of being too optimistic…so he thinks Brix had to dig up something negative to play the game and please Pelosi.

    Were I Brix, I’d quit.

    Were I DJT, I’d fire both Fauci and Brix (if he suddenly dislikes her that much) now…but he can’t because Fauci has some weird hold on the media (probably thru Gates and Soros, of course. ) I believe Brix is not a game player and I hate what Trump did. I’m not alone 😦


  14. geeez2014 says:


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  15. geeez2014 says:



    Gillian TUrner on more and more…

    FOX IS MOVING……MOVING MOVING………..thank GOD for the very strong conservatives still there and thriving!!


  16. geeez2014 says:



  17. geeez2014 says:

    WOW, the questions from Dana are tough, but give Mrs. Biden a great chance to ‘remind’ us JOE IS A MODERATE 🙂
    Mrs. Biden is extremely prepared and slick; I’ve got to say that, she’s been well primed for this interview.


  18. geeez2014 says:

    “A lot of Republicans say ‘Jill, your husband has to win!’ when they see me at the grocery store.

    She’s going to the grocery store? I thought Biden’s being so careful about the virus? 🙂


  19. geeez2014 says:




  20. geeez2014 says:

    JILL BIDEN is doing what Joe has done frequently….”I was so sorry Beau died because I really thought he’d live”
    I do NOT like personal stuff in campaigns… Ooh, she even talks of the car accident where Biden’s first wife and daughter died. “I had to make sure our marriage would be ‘from death do us part’ because his poor sons couldn’t take losing another mother’ ”
    A woman helped her recover her faith………(hint: to you Christian conservatives…I, too, BELIEVE! 🙂
    Dana: “And, of course, prayer isn’t a partisan issue at all.” No, not unless we make it one.
    Trump has, a bit, probably….I don’t believe for a minute he’s quite the believer many Christians like to tout…I hope he is, for his own purposes. I know Pence is.
    Not that I wouldn’t vote for someone with only a bit of faith…or a Jew. But I don’t like pandering faith if you haven’t been shown to live it your whole life.


  21. geeez2014 says:

    Me: ALEXA; Check my bank balance and tell me what Apple product I can buy.

    Alexa: Apple juice.



  22. geeez2014 says:

    When asked how the VP thing is going, Mrs. Biden responded “WE’RE CLOSE…………..HE’S CLOSE….it’s all his decision”

    🙂 RIGHT …WE are close!


  23. MAL says:

    You’re probably right about Trump and his faith. After all, we never hear about him having been a member of a church he attends regularly. On the other hand you don’t have to go to church to be a good Christian, and vice versa. His best argument for reelection besides his outstanding first term is, unlike all other politicians, he’s not in it for either fame or fortune because he’d already had both. Who else can compete with that? If they could, they wouldn’t be willing (or care enough) to take it on. Doing so is being a real patriot, IMO.

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, he’s sure not doing it for fortune! Not sure he’s not doing it for fame.
    All I know is I like a lot of what he does……….and BIDEN CANNOT WIN!!!


  25. MAL says:

    I figure he already had fame, what with all his hotels worldwide as well as his T,V, shows.
    He hasn’t exactly been a recluse, has he? ;o)


  26. Baysider says:

    “It’s a fool’s errand to enter the ring with someone who can’t follow the rules or the truth.” So what does that say about those who enter Congress with Pelosi, or any Dem these days for that matter?

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  27. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, a very saD commentary and probably true…I’m betting on those who actually DO love America still and are trying to put things back together…there are a lot of very young candidates, Conservatives, I’m seeing on Facebook and elsewhere, Black and WHite, and I believe we must keep our fingers crossed while we pray 🙂 WHo else would enter into Congress but those who still haven’t seen the corruption?> Or actually DO see it and want it changed?

    EVERYBODY: After hearing Kayleigh McEnany talk about voter fraud with mail in ballots, listing some individual incidents that are pretty shocking, I turned to CNN just now where they’re doing yet another complete RIP on Trump, saying “THERE IS NO PROOF THAT MAIL IN VOTING HAS ANY FRAUD” it’s almost unbelievable that people can believe CNN, but…if they ONLy see CNN.

    ALSO, I’ll say once again that I’ve turned CNN on about 10 times a day for the last 5 or so days..on purpose….to see protest coverage. NONE. ZERO NADA RIEN NOTHING.




  28. kidme37 says:

    @Mustang, Agree. campaigns are all about the seduction of the idiots. If people have to wait until a couple months before the election to make up their mind, they have no mind or they are extremely new to the game. It’s all marketing. Even with DJT – although, he has worked hard on the campaign promises. GW Bush scored zero out of three and his were easy ones.

    @Z, Jill Biden. Yep, it’s all about emotion with the left. Forget logic, they don’t have the ability so the democrat campaign has to appeal to the emotional side. The chillldren, the animals, the environment, bla bla bla. All concepts where there is no possible way to measure success or failure. as an added bonus to them.


  29. geeez2014 says:




    KID: YES, ALL ABOUT EMOTION~ One possible way to measure something is debates….naked on stage…ya, they COULD get questions in advance, and have, but face to face? I think that just very well MIGHT make some late deciders, those truly on some fence I can’t even image, think “What the… ?? He can’t even THINK? He knows nothing about that? ” or “I totally disagree with that concept and that’s enough for me”..

    I see that happening…no problem seeing that happen. Is it Sept 10 the first debate is? Something like that….two months….maybe some haven’t decided. I can’t imagine, but…..



  30. kidme37 says:

    Sept 10? I don’t know. I pay no attention to the details. If they have one, I’ll watch at least the first one for humor value.


  31. For Trump’s sake I hope he’s a Christian.
    Considering everything he has done for Christians, as opposed to the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas that claimed to be Christians and acted otherwise. “show me your faith by your works.”


  32. Mal: Charlie Kirk sums it up:


  33. geeez2014 says:

    Ed “Show me your faith by the amount of votes you’ll get.” That’s what worries me.
    I’m not judging him, I even know a few Bible teaching schools say ‘ONE CORINTHIANS” but….let’s just say I hope so.
    Charlie Kirk’s been at my uncle’s home…think they’d have invited me? Naaaa 😦

    Will listen later..thanks

    KID…now I’m seeing Sept 29….it’ll be October 7, then October 27….I STRONGLY believe you’re right..NEVER HAPPEN. but I also strongly believe any excuse Biden gives (unless he’s hospitalized with proof ) will be a vote for Trump…



  34. geeez2014 says:

    I searched BALLOT HARVESTING…yet another way to commit fraud. Particularly based on things I saw during the Obama elections…with my own eyes. Imagine an elderly person in a wheel chair with spittle coming out of their mouth, head on their chest…voting? I’ll bet the Black ‘nurse’ pushing the wheel chair helped “turn it in”, huh? REALLY odd thing to call it…’harvesting’…almost greedy and selfish somehow…”I wilL HARVEST the votes”…


  35. MAL says:


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  36. geeez2014 says:

    I had to laugh at the video, Ed…I thought it was Charlie Kirk DOING the interview and I was thinking ‘”Man, you built Trump up, now let the guy TALK” then I realized… 🙂
    ya, it’s good….all well known…but only by Conservatives.

    As my conservative MD just said in his office to me…”Don’t listen to Trump, just look at the good things he’s DOING”


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  37. Mal: I don’t have your email. I invite you to go to my blog and listen to a link there.


  38. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I can email Ed your email if you’d like…let me know.


  39. MAL says:



  40. MAL says:

    And, incidentally, Z, I liked both your Alexa and Biden jokes! ;o)


  41. Baysider says:

    Debate? Because Joe will look so bad they will try to keep him away from Trump. How? I can’t imagine, but I’m sure they’ve been working on something ‘credible’ for months now. Or – for those who know the old Russian joke about ‘why the Jews’ – they’ll blame it on the chimney sweeps.


  42. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, now I’m hearing that the Biden folks want NOTES 🙂 HAAAAAAA!! We could have predicted that, right?


  43. Baysider says:

    Ballot harvesting is what gave several Republican leaning districts in Orange County Democratic congress critters in the last election. They ALL went Democrat, even though several were called for Republicans late in the evening. It’s outright theft. And outright LEGAL in California. Activists have organized cadres to wring in the vote for the Dems.

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  44. Bob says:

    I am going out on a limb, here, and say that Biden will not do a live debate. He will plead COVID-19 and debate only over ZOOM. Everybody knows that he is in the terminal stages of stupidity, and possibly life itself.


  45. skudrunner says:

    The trump campaign need to start a wheres Waldo but insert wheres Joe. Puppet joe has learned from his mentor that you have a press conference, read a prepared speech say thank you and leave. How many press conferences did obama open up for questions from the press, very few.


  46. The video I posted today pertains to this thread. Worth a few moments of your time.


  47. geeez2014 says:

    aow!! the Trump campaign MUST use that…but they have to walk a very slim line…….not sound TOO mean (as Trump usually does, which loses voters) but DEFINITE………

    HA! I just had the thought that a better approach might be for Trump to start being REALLY REALLY KIND toward ol’ Joe…”Poor Joe, we do wish him well…I’m not kidding, this campaign is tough and it’s clearly getting to him” ‘Poor Joe, people like him in Congress and to see him sliding is hard on most of us” 🙂


  48. MAL says:

    Your suggestion is good, Z. “Poor Joe. He just can’t help it. We only wish the best for him”.
    It need only be implied the WH is no place for him. Too much is at stake with our country, etc.


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