FLYNN GOT A PARDON…but…

Flynn apparently didn’t really want a pardon because he wanted to exonerate himself, which I completely understand.

TWO QUESTIONS:

  1. Does his PARDON mean he can’t pursue an exoneration?

  2. Does his PARDON mean that the evil at the top of the FBI also is exonerated because nobody will pursue what they did to Flynn?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?  I’d really like to know.

Z

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27 Responses to FLYNN GOT A PARDON…but…

  1. peter3nj says:

    Flynn was set up by Obama’s FBI as anyone, even the blind can see. Unless I missed something none of the many participants in the overthrow Trump coup have skated as will those involved with setting up Flynn. The swamp is deep and wide. That being said Flynn knows or should know he will never see justice served in his case and accept the pardon. If he leaves himself up-pardoned with the corrupt former prosecutor turned VP waiting in the wings to take the presidential mantel from the Uber corrupt elected but soon to be retired POTUS he is toast. Even the FOX on air phonies know enough to jump ship in order to protect themselves from what’s coming down the pike.
    I understand this is a simplistic at best response but it’s all I got.

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  2. peter3nj says:

    Typo- “none of the many Participants” should read “all of the many participants.”

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  3. bocopro says:

    Donno the answers. Guess is that Flynn could continue to pursue the exoneration (at great expense, which he cannot afford), which should be simple now that the “evidence” has been totally debunked . . . and none of the seditious bastards who started it all will ever sojourn in Graybar House unless DJT gets a 2nd term.

    My question is whom he’ll pardon next.

    And my BIGGER question is how this lashup which has gone totally PC, tribal, and green gonna succeed with the admin sanctified by the LSM, a PotUS who sounds like a clone of Professor Irwin Corey with Kamala Sutra ready for her Lucretia Borgia moment.

    It all started with FDR and his giant ponzi schemes for wealth redistribution. Then in 1960 we got JFK, who didn’t really want the job but took it for Daddy ‘cuz Big Bro Joe got himself killed showin off tryin to be a hero.

    LBJ was nothin more than a sadistic bully who set the stage for Paranoid Tricky Dick, who in turn opened the door for Carter, who was more like a stage extra in a Mel Brooks movie than a chief executive.

    Reagan came along just in time to stop the increasing port list, which would eventually have resulted in a keelover, but like Trump was only a speed bump in the progressive movement envisioned by Wilson and enacted by Roosevelt.

    Slick, of course, was there for the same reason Navy pilots went to the Tail Hook conventions, and Bush II was a barely effective follow-on to Raygun Ronnie’s trip hazard in the socialists’ inexorable march toward “if we can’t all be rich, we’ll all be better off poor.”

    DingleBarry was — and remains — thoroughly, irredeemably, dangerously . . . unaware, unaccomplished, and unAmerican, the greatest single threat to racial harmony since the Tower of Babble.

    It’s as if once we finished WWII and had our well-earned Happy Days period, we decided as a nation to ignore Washington’s caveat about foreign entanglements and take the restraints off the national debt hog.

    I have trouble seeing how more than maybe 10% of the decisions our government has made since 1960 were in our best interests. Sometimes it’s looked like the House was run by Curly, the Senate by Larry, and the Oval Office by Moe.

    And now we’re in an ever-deepening rut dictated by self-appointed experts to completely modify our national character and become a completely new society as unlike those Happy Days as modern-day Italy is unlike the Rome which once controlled everything from Scandinavia to India, including north Africa.

    It’s like Pelosi, AOC, and Harris standing over a caldron witching us a boring Christmas and a lonely new year.

    What do I think? I think you can stick a fork in us ‘cuz we’re done. And whoever’s the last one out, don’t forget to turn off the lights, ‘cuz THIS party is over.

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  4. geeez2014 says:

    Peter, I wish I’d read your second comment before I replied with a paragraph on “Who didn’t ‘skate’?!!!!”: Haa!!!
    Has Flynn not “accepted” the pardon? Or are you just using that term because I said he had n’t wanted it?
    First, not all the FOX folks are phonies, that is FOR SURE…..which do you think are?
    Second, I SORT OF AGREE……..while I’d LOVE Flynn to REALLY PUSH THIS, how much more evidence COULD he and Powell have that would FINALLY indict those who tried to get him? If he does, where HAS IT BEEN???

    BOCOPRO: What evidence has been DEBUNKED? I pretty much agree with your presidential rundown but I wouldn’t say that about Joe Kennedy Jr…..
    Do you think ANYTHING on this PLANET could save America now?
    I believe two yearS of Biden and they’ll be dying to vote for an all Republican House and Senate and hoping to keep him alive ONLY to keep Kamala from the presidency.
    But, I’m being POllyana…cuz I gotta. Or go stark raving mad 🙂

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  5. geeez2014 says:

    THIS IS INTERESTING: My CHinese student who lived here for a year about 2 years ago just emailed….He and his friend will be “traveling around China”….hmmm. I will definitely be writing back asking how easy that is with (DON’T YOU HAVE????) Covid.
    He actually apologized for it and I know he’s that kind and sweet a boy. But they’re traveling…huh!

    Also; I wonder if China has a vaccine, which I WILL ASK HIM. Get some insider stuff? !!!

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  6. peter3nj says:

    Geeez-I took poetic license of sorts going back and force between past and present. You noticed so Thanks😎

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  7. bocopro says:

    Perhaps “debunked” isn’t the right term; “discounted” might be closer to the mark.

    Basically what had happened is that Obama didn’t like Flynn and fired him as Director of the intelligence agency, basically for disagreeing with him.

    Flynn then fell back on the time-honored tradition of giving speeches, and when Trump set his campaign in motion, Flynn joined.

    Since Comey, Brennan, Strzok, Page, McCabe, et al. couldn’t stomach the idea of a Trump potusy, they constructed a plan to sabotage him and his team, which included Flynn.

    Flynn had given speeches in Russia, so the Swamp Rats blew that up into his being a Russian agent. The guy had done nothing wrong, and all they could find that he said to the Russians was that they oughta wait for the next administration (which he hoped would be a DJT one) before presenting their case to the US (I forget what it was all about . . . missiles in western Europe, I think).

    But . . . in the ever-suspicious minds of the spooks, Flynn had been to Russia, had given a speech in Russia, and had Russian friends; ergo he was clearly some kind of double agent, subject to blackmail, right?

    Hell, even Mueller was low-key about Flynn’s interviews with the FBI in which they said he lied to them. And even Sally Yates wanted to know why they were bothering to investigate him at all.

    The whole thing was a frame job, and everybody finally knows it. The genesis was very simply that Obama didn’t like him, and a Trump presidency was NOT in the best interests of the swamp dwellers.

    As to Joe Jr., here’s as good an article about his goin full chest-thumping mode as you’ll find:

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-secret-drone-mission-that-killed-joseph-kennedy-jr-5985733

    BTW — old Joe made his pile by bootlegging during Prohibition . . . you knew that, right?

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  8. kidme37 says:

    Before I read comments….

    1. Dunno.
    2. Dunno.

    Overall feeling is that Flynn, Manafort, and whomever else were caught up in a net to make DJT look like his associates are all criminals. In this regard, it wouldn’t matter what happens. The jury can be told to disregard but they already heard it. Similar to it wouldn’t have mattered if DJT talked like the Outlaw Josey Wales or Julie Andrews singing Doe Ra Me. Donna matta.

    For Flynn it is a matter if he wants to spend more money. I’d say he isn’t getting anything back, and in the end it isn’t worth it. No one will care on the right and especially on the left. This is one of the biggest problems imo. Prosecution has no skin in the game. They can accuse you of anything. Some psycho-female can accuse you of anything and you’re stuck shelling out for legal. Doesn’t cost the plaintiff a nickel. Not good.

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  9. kidme37 says:

    Z “But, I’m being POllyana…cuz I gotta. Or go stark raving mad”

    I won’t give you my assessment then.

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  10. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, ya, don’t. !!! I know your assessment and, in honesty, it’s not far from mine! And, I BELIEVE all of this mess, all these lies, disasters, obfuscations would be OUT and SOLVED if our media was honest. Period. Back in the day, Media actually cared about TRUTH…..we need two conservative Woodward and Bernstein’s and, even then, nobody’d listen to them until the NY Slimes printed OBAMA SCREWED THE WORLD, and even then there’d still be Obama fans.
    And our kids are wrecked….the only school system to teach kids in a country to hate their country is America. Period. The ONLY one.

    I think Manafort’s a limeball, but the others aren’t…..

    PETER: I must be missing something or don’t know enough about planes…..To me, two tours of duty flying like Joe Kennedy did is pretty heroic and the possibility of blowing up and knowing it is chest-thumping worthy, …what am I MISSING?

    And yes, Joseph was a bootlegger, for SURE…

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  11. Baysider says:

    @BP – “I have trouble seeing how more than maybe 10% of the decisions our government has made since 1960 were in our best interests.” There’s more to that than a shallow dismissal. I really believe the beltway makes decisions first and foremost to perpetuate influence, power and ego.

    As for Flynn’s pardon, Sydney Powell has her hands full now. He’s been exonerated in the eyes of the people. Anyone who thinks diff’rent should lose their voting privileges.

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  12. bocopro says:

    Could be I’m just reading the articles differently, but Joe Jr. wasn’t thrilled by the persistent celebration of his little brother’s “heroism” by getting his boat cut in half by an enemy ship. We need our heroes, and although I’ve never liked the Kennedy klan, JFK and Camelot were good for America, for a while. But he DID try his best to get us into a nuke rumble with the Russians.

    Jack had performed admirably during the ordeal of being thrust into the sea at 0230, but IMO he (1) never should have been in command of anything in a war zone since he was essentially 4F and (2) the ramming was very likely due at least in part to poor leadership.

    And yes, having ridden on craft very similar to the WWII era PT boats, I am familiar with their speed and maneuverability compared to the Japanese destroyers, which were quite fast and maneuverable themselves.

    In fact, JFK’s was the only PT boat ever rammed and sunk during the war (as far as I’ve read). Nearly a quarter century in the USN tells me that somebody was basically asleep at the switch there.

    Anyway . . . yes, Joe Jr. had literally earned his wings and turned down a chance to get back to the states, but he wanted to grab a brass ring if he could to score points for becoming president after the war.

    JFK’s celebrity status rubbed his butt raw by overshadowing the boxtops he’d collected so far, so he decided to go for the gold . . . a basically suicidally dangerous bombing mission on a German target in France.

    Basically the only reason Jack, who was frail, sickly, and cursed with lower back problems, was out there was that he got bored with stateside shore duty and asked Daddy to pull some strings and get him out of a punishment tour in South Carolina (where he’d been sent to break up his romance with a Danish woman who had known ties to Nazi pezzonovante while he was assigned to Naval Intelligence in D.C.).

    What we have here is sibling rivalry and a pushy daddy. Two young-adult brothers breaking out the rulers and measuring, with Big Bro not the least bit happy with second-fiddle status.

    Old Joe had opposed the war, and now he’d lost his eldest son whom he was grooming for PotUSy. So he went pedal-to-the-metal to get his second son the post position (once he got out of the hospital).

    Here’s a quote from JFK: “It was like being drafted,” JFK later described it. “My father wanted his oldest son in politics. ‘Wanted’ isn’t the right word. He demanded it.”

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER, I agree, except for the most rabid HATE TRUMPER on both sides of the aisle, the public knows FLYNN was INNOCENT. AND, they know he’s lost his home, lost his savings…he’s in HORRIBLE financial shape…(or close to it) and Americans don’t like that EVER….our hearts go out to people bullied by the government and right they should.

    We just have to hope and PRAY Sidney Powell knows what she’s doing because if there isn’t a blockbuster revelation about this election (and/or Flynn) THIS week, we’re screwed.
    The PA court again turned Trump’s folks down…….And I’m REAL REAL tired of the news reporting that “And the judge was a TRUMP APPOINTEE!!” as if ALL judges just decide based on their party? How disgustingly typical of all our media.

    I BELIEVE TRUMP HAS TO NOT MENTION THE PRESIDENTIaL ELECTION TONIGHT AT HIS RALLY IN GEORGIA. AT LEAST NOT HIS SIDE OF IT. PEOPLE ARE TIRED, THEY’RE HEARING THE GUY HE FIRED SAY HE DIDN’T SEE ANY VOTING MACHINE IRREGULARITIES, NO PAPER BALLOT PROBLEMS….MANY ARE SAYING THAT AND, LET’S FACE IT, THEY’RE WINNING. AND, BELIEVE ME, THE FACT THAT JUDGE AFTER JUDGE IS TURNING APPEALS DOWN “DUE TO ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF” ISN’T HELPING THE TRUMP CAUSE 😦
    MY PRAYER IS IF BALLOTS AND VOTING MACHINES ARE FINALLY ‘EXONERATED’ FROM FRAUD, WE REDO THE WHOLE ELECTION SYSTEM FOR THE 2022 ELECTION….ALL PAPER. ALL ONE AMERICAN METHOD, NOT STATE BY STATE.

    I BELIEVE TRUMP SHOULD MENTION IT A BIT AS FAR AS GEORGIA WENT….BUT JUST TALK UP HOW AWFUL THE TWO LIBERALS WOULD BE FOR GEORGIA…AND PLEASE STOP THE “HE’S EITHER SOCIALIST OR COMMUNIST…I THINK HE’S A COMMUNIST’ AS HE SAID YESTERDAY. NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR ANYBODY CALL SOMEONE A COMMUNIST; IT CHEAPENS THE WHOLE ARGUMENT…..(even if he is)…

    BE DIGNIFIED, BY STRONG AND PROUD, MR. TRUMP. …AND TELL WHAT A DANGER GEORGIA FACES WITH TWO LIB SENATORS AND PLEEEEASE USE FACTS AND FIGURES….ENERGY DEPENDENCY, RACE PROBLEMS, VIOLENCE PROBLEMS, ETC ETC.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    https://www.oann.com/sidney-powell-files-lawsuit-claiming-iranian-chinese-operatives-potentially-targeted-dominion-voting-systems/

    PRAY PRAY PRAY Ol’ Sidney just HAS to get it right…and FULL of PROOF!!!!!!!!! Saying the machines COULD be tampered with is NOT enough 😦

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  15. kidme37 says:

    Somebody wake me up after the Supreme Court speaks. Nothing else matters.

    Hey, nothing personal Z ! But seriously, we’ve had Proof of serious criminal activity by the heads on the Intel agencies, etc, etc, and nothing. My heartbeat is not going to change until the SC makes some monumentous decision. A decision for the ages. A decision to Trump all other decisions. And Roberts has teamed up with the commies on the court, so it’s 5 to 4 again. All this drama eh? ha.

    Well, I do see the word ‘Potentially” in the hyperlink you posted….

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  16. geeez2014 says:

    KID….And when the Supreme Court speaks, it’ll be all “THAT’S WHY TRUMP STACKED IT!” The good news is the jerks won’t have a chance because the SCOTUS IS THE ONLY IMPORTANT DECISION. AND FINAL.

    “nothing personal?” Of course we’ve had proof and ‘nothing’….Yes, Roberts teamed up against American again. WE know there seems to be proof but NOTHING is sticking in ANY courts…they can’t ALL be Biden lovers at the bench.
    The word POTENTIALLY is the BUMMER! YOu can’t go to court with POTENTIALS….we have to SHOW IT..PROVE IT… “they were POTENTIALLY tampered with” isn’t proof, Kid, or am I wrong?
    The Courts apparently don’t want to hear “It could have happened because………………..” or “It potentially happened because………..”

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  17. kidme37 says:

    “Potentially” kills the story before you even click on the link. So I didn’t. I see a Buy My Book phase in her future.

    Personally, I hope DJT stays in the White House and that the libs believe it was because in part “Trump Stacked The Court!!!!!” AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!! That will turn up the volume on my enjoyment factor. I want the libs squirming around like worms on hot cement without a blade of grass in sight for shade. Seriously. I want them so they can’t sleep in peace.

    “Proof” No Z, I’m talking about the proof that we have on Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Donner, Strock and Page who can sex and text at the same time, Lois Lerner, Susan Lice, etc, more, and others, Many others and yet still more others. They haven’t even been indicted.

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  18. bunkerville says:

    I doubt the Judge is done with him.. I had read that he.may cite Flynn for Contempt of Court for trying to reverse his plea and the Pardon doesn’t cover that.

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  19. geeez2014 says:

    BUNKERVILLE…I was surprised to hear the Judge had asked Flynn last time they ‘met’ if he’d talked to Trump about a pardon. NONE OF THE JUDGE’S BUSINESS. Jer,

    KID: Oh, I get ya…thanks…yes, TONS AND TONS of proof about those people….and zip. Lucky them.

    I just got an Amazon.com announcement “A book we know you’ll like!”…..Obama’s latest. As if I EVER bought ANY book that even hinted that I’d be interested in reading anything by HIM? I reaD almost only NOVELs…FICTION.
    Ya, sure, his book’s mostly FICTION, but you know……….. 🙂

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  20. Baysider says:

    We know we had massive fraud. Not new. In fact, there is a serious question of Bush’s win in Ohio in 2004. I think that’s why many Dems were raising alerts about electronic voting THEN. It’s essential that some form of impressive [genuine] fraud be brought to light regardless of final election result. We MUST have a basis for returning to the rational voting arrangement our republic deserves: one man, one vote, one day and dumping this electronic system.

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  21. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider, if we “KNOW” it, they should be able to PROVE IT. So far, we have about 1000 affidavits by voting counters, watchers, etc., which apparently mean NOTHING to every stinkin’ judge.
    And yes, one man, one vote…PAPER.

    I laughed out loud at the CEO of Dominion the other day when he looked SO innocent and “we don’t have foreign funding…it’s all AMERICAN CAPITALISTS” (which I found an odd thing to sAy), and then he added the piece de la resistance “…and all the counters were NON PARTISAN!”

    Oh, really? about 90 Black Detroit and Philly counters and HE KNOWS they’re ALL NON PARTISAN? I’m SURE there were at LEAST 3 Republicans in that 90, right? That’s NON PARTISAN 🙂

    GERMAN use their ID cards…slip it into the machine, vote, and that card can’t be used again. And they vote on either one or two days, ON A WEEKEND..Brilliant.
    BUT, today? If Americans EVER got past the Republicans who’ve always looked at ID cards as “BIG BROTHER” , and we got ID cards and voted, who could trust the machines?

    I SAY PAPER BALLOTS ONLY. Period. And maybe bring in people from Haiti to count? 🙂

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    In Wisconsin the status of “Indefinitely Confined” ballot means you don’t need to prove your identity. The number of people claiming this option in the past was about 1,000. This election the number was 200,000.

    Isn’t THAT worth checking into? !!! I THINK SO!!! “JUDGE….is that POTENTIAL enough for you?”

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  23. geeez2014 says:

    I am SO SORRY I gave Perdue a little money! I get four or five texts a DAY now…..NEVER GIVE YOUR CELL NUMBER AGAIN, Z!!!

    And do Democrats also THREATEN? When I was being besieged by Joni Ernst emails EVERY SINGLE DAY (with no UNSUBSCRIBE offered), they said things like “Why are you not helping?” and “Don’t you know how hard it is?”

    Now I just got “WHY ARE YOU TURNING AGAINST DONALD JR IN HIS FATHER’S BID TO CORRECT THE ELECTION FRAUD?” WHAT?

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  24. MAL says:

    Its a sucker list, Z. We’ve probably gotten on at least one during our lifetime. You simply have to keep ignoring them till they get the idea and remove you from their list.

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  25. Baysider says:

    We ‘know’ there is a God too, Z, but can’t prove it. We saw hundreds of thousands of inexplicable votes show up in the middle of the night vote tallies. Without a paper trail, hard to prove. I’ve seen reasonable estimates of a 6M vote margin created for Hillary in 2016. The left knew this, and knew they had to keep people from in person voting as much as possible with the mail out scheme. Hence lockdowns, now with a life of their own.

    There is nothing to keep a vengeful new administration from creating charges against Flynn out of thin air just to be nasty, what Harris is so good at.

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  26. peter3nj says:

    Geeez-Neither did I mention nor did I comment on Joe Jr.
    Other than his war record I know little else about him. As for the rest of his clan:
    Joe Sr was a corrupt rum running Nazi lover who bought the Chitown Vote in 1960.
    JFK was to the right of today’s fiscal conservatives (is there such an animal still in existence?)
    RFK was a carpet bagging baby making phony sucking on the teat of his dead brother John’s legacy.
    The Swimmer administered the coup de tat to American culture. Had Mary Jo been driving he could have been left submerged in the creek. So much for divine providence.

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  27. geeez2014 says:

    PETER!!! YOu are CORRECT and I am so sorry! it was BOCOPRO who talked of Joe Jr, etc….oops!!
    it’s hard to remember who wrote what!!

    Good point about poor mary Jo! And YES on JFK’s being RIGHt today…many say that, and I believe it’s true.

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