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PLEASE SAY A PRAYER FOR THIS FAMILY WHO LOST THEIR SON DUE TO LEFTWING FALSE ACCUSATIONS!

The story is AWFUL and VERY TELLING………..An innocent Marine Corp vet/bar owner shoots a rioter and is set free due with a self-defense ruling, only to be accused later of being racist, etc., and finally losing everything he had………and kills himself.

Please pray that stories like these make a DENT in proving to America how their baseless, evil accusations of good people just to make their own impossibly biased and evil, unfair claims is TRUE EVIL.

God bless the families of the White man who shot the Black man because the DA thought “it would restore public faith in the justice system,”  and God bless the Black young man who was killed for believing that the justice system was against him.

AMEN.

 

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32 Responses to Sunday Faith Blog

  1. bocopro says:

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  2. bocopro says:

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  3. Mustang says:

    You’re correct to observe that this incident was a tragedy — and one easily avoided. It wasn’t the first such tragedy, and it won’t be the last. I had to dig deeper to find out what actually happened since the original event occurred last year. From those accounts, it appears as if Scurlock was choking Gardner from behind when Gardner grabbed his pistol from his waist belt and shot over his shoulder, the bullet striking and eventually killing Scurlock. If true, then there is a case for “self-defense,” and likely the reason law enforcement didn’t charge initially charge Gardner. But there is more to this story.

    First, a district attorney’s decision NOT to prosecute is not a judicial determination; it is an administrative determination. It in no way precludes further prosecutorial action — particularly in a case of murder, where there is no statute of limitations. Suppose authorities had arrested Gardner, taken him to an inquest, and determined that the event was a matter of self-defense (depending on the framing of state law). In that case, it is not likely that the state would later charge him. But there are two prosecuting agencies involved in the Gardner case: the city prosecutor’s office and the country prosecutor’s office … both of which have jurisdiction over the alleged offense.

    Second, shooting someone, killing them, whether self-defense, accidental discharge, whatever, is murder. So, all you gun-carriers out there must know that authorities are likely to charge you with murder if you shoot and kill someone. Police will arrest you; police will take you to jail, and you will have your day in court. What determines the outcome of this action are the circumstances leading up to the shooting. What you did, what you said, and what you told the police. In these circumstances, most people who go to prison after thinking that they acted in self-defense convicted themselves by talking too much to the police. Where you live in the US also makes a difference. Where I live observes the castle doctrine; I have no obligation to run from a place I am legally entitled to be. But that doesn’t excuse shooting someone to death who was armed with a noodle, either. It doesn’t justify missing your target and hitting an innocent bystander.

    At first, I viewed this case as potentially one involving malicious prosecution, but now, I don’t think that’s the case. Was Gardner’s prosecution politically motivated? Definitely. Will a politically motivated prosecution matter in the civil suit? No. Face it, folks, every decision to prosecute is “political.” DAs routinely decide which cases to charge (and which to ignore) based on how much the case will benefit the DA’s political career (chances of reelection, etc.).

    I am pretty sure that the decision to charge Gardner with manslaughter was politically and racially motivated. Not only that, but by now, everyone should know that DAs routinely stack the charges. It’s part of the egg-on-the-wall strategy: if a jury acquits Gardner on Charge 1, they can still “get him” on Charge 2 or 3. In this case, after first deciding that Gardner acted in self-defense, the neighborhood yahoos began acting up, and the question became political in the space of a heartbeat. So, Gardner was subsequently charged with manslaughter, attempted first-degree assault, terrorist threats, and the use of a firearm in connection with a felony. Everything after manslaughter is egg-on-wall (to demonstrate the seriousness of the manslaughter charge).

    What matters in this case, beyond the fact of Scurlock’s death, is what transpired before that instant. According to the Washington Post, Gardner’s own words posted on Facebook before or after the shooting suggested a pre-meditated affinity for the use of deadly force, as well as a lack of remorse that the incident even occurred. Again, what a shooter says, and how he behaves throughout the event will be used against him in a court of law. So, I conclude (again) that this was likely an avoidable shooting. It was a tragedy, but I doubt if Gardner’s parent’s lawsuit will succeed. The action of the prosecuting attorney’s office was a typical reaction to such cases, and Gardner, for whatever reason, was not in a normal frame of mind when he took his own life. At this point, it is up to God to sort it all out.

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  4. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO…good representatives of what’s happening these days!!!

    MUSTANG: VERY unclear case…. I hope more people aren’t called racist and forced to lose everything they have in the course, or after, a legal judgment………..which then gets overturned.
    Gardner shouldn’t have gone through that. Probably shouldn’t have shot but he was threatened. And the climate was bad for all shop owners, etc., at the time……as it was for the cops being attacked for trying to protect them.

    THanks for your amazing research!

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  5. kidme37 says:

    How many will 2nd guess when in a situation where the correct thing to do is kill the black person to protect your own life?
    In conceal carry courses they tell you that the only thing you say to anyone is “I was in fear for my life” regardless of any other circumstances, and that a lawyer is going to follow any bullet from a gun.

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  6. Mustang’s analysis is professional grade.
    And Kid is correct.
    That’s the appeal of CCW/CPL insurance.

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  7. Father, per Zs request, please other eyes of the American people to the evil in governance. And help them to react appropriately.

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  8. geeez2014 says:

    THANK YOU, ED….The crux of this story is this from the article “However, following unrest largely because of the races of Scurlock, who is black, and Gardner, who is white, the DA appointed special prosecutor Fred Franklin and a grand jury, hoping “it would restore public faith in the justice system,” NPR reported.”

    We don’t want to restore faith by demonizing anyone, black OR white.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    KID…meaning you believe people might NOT protect themselves because having shot a black man will automatically mean they were wrong and only shot because he was black? I think that’s an excellent point…..one emphasized by what the DA did to Gardner.

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  10. geeez2014 says:

    AOW AND WARREN GETTING MARRIED IS THE BEST NEWS ONE CAN HAVE ON A GORGEOUS SUNDAY!

    Wishing them both health and so much happiness for many, many years to come.

    God bless you both!!!!! Love, Z

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  11. Mustang says:

    I was taught this, Kid:

    Hello, 911 Operator

    Yes, my name is the Tucson Kid. I am the victim of an assault. I require police and medical support. I am located at 123 XYZ Street.

    HANG UP

    DO NOT ANSWER YOUR PHONE

    Next call, US LAW SHIELD who will contact you with an attorney immediately.

    When the police arrive, you say: I’ve given my statement to the 911 operator. I have nothing further to say without the presence of my attorney.

    Then do as promised and STFU.

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  12. kidme37 says:

    AOW and Warren ? Much happiness to them both !!!

    Geeez, I originally read that as AOC and [elizbeth] Warren.. wow.

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  13. kidme37 says:

    Exactly Z. and I’ll tell ya, if I was a cop I’d think 3 times before engaging a black person.

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  14. Baysider says:

    Father, give this family peace and justice. Protect ALL victims of Nifonging, and stop the mouths of the wicked.

    I wonder if the reverse of races (black criminal, white victim) gets the SAME special treatment. Not likely. For one thing, there aren’t enough special prosecutors to go around.

    Mustang, thank you for that excellent evaluation. Before you hit “send” always think “what will this look like if read in open court.” Mr. B served on a jury where the prosecutor had piled on. It was an insult to their intelligence. The man was on probation, guilty of a technicality but NO CRIME. The jury found guilty for that but NO on all the piling on. I hope if I’m ever charged the jury is full of men like you.

    For a sobering reflection on what it means to protect yourself look up Massad Ayoob’s videos. It’s way too easy to second guess what another should or could do. It’s even more sobering when you consider your jurors will not be 12 Mustangs. As an expert witness Ayoob testified in the police killing of an armed criminal. The prosecutor pushed the theory that the cop should have waited – for the perp to draw his gun and turn around to shoot the cop, to “be sure.” Ayoob offered that could have gotten him killed. <i"The perp didn't need all that time to shoot the cop. I'll show you." “Oh, Mr. Ayoob you are an expert. Of course you could do fire in less than 2 seconds.” “No counselor. Anyone on the jury could do the same.” Then he demonstrated the unexpected – a quick flip up of the gun in its holster and fire backwards through his coat without turning around and aiming. The jury tried it during deliberations, and one holdout said that convinced her to exonerate.

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  15. Mustang says:

    Kid asked, “How many will 2nd guess when in a situation where the correct thing to do is kill the black person to protect your own life?”

    I can’t speak for anyone else, but … (1) I don’t hang out in places where I’m likely to run into pissed-off tribal persons. (2) I won’t waste ammo by shooting beyond the effective range of my weapon. (3) I won’t see skin color when I bead in on someone who’s trying to harm me or my wife. (4) I won’t miss, and I won’t just shoot once.

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  16. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG, I’ve been thinking about the case more…. There is something SO wrong about nearly every point about this case…pro or con, for Gardner.
    My upshot is there was enough evidence to self defense…and now there is not. What kind of lawyers were there, judge?, witnesses? Enough to say “Yes, self defense” THAT’s the RULING… when we KNOW most wouldn’t like that decision because the dead man was black so judges/juries tent to go against the white guy, that’s just a given… But, suddenly…..? NOT SELF DEFENSE!
    SOME court procedure. SOME research into the case. I think the lawyers should be up on charges.

    KID, I ABSOLUTELY agree…what white cop’s going to shoot a black man ..before that black man has a chance to kill HIM? Not many. Horrid situation and I don’t know how that changes.

    BAY….SO many aspects to a shooting……it used to be GOOD GUY v BAD GUY and we just hoped and prayer that, somehow, the shot was just. We knew bad cops might win, but we knew most perps lost….today, that’s not the case.
    I’m not sure our laws or our society can even survive otherwise.

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  17. Mustang says:

    Baysider has served this community well by suggesting Massad Ayoob’s videos. They are quite excellent, and I second her recommendations. Sensing Z’s frustrations in this case but knowing that she does not conceal carry (I doubt if she has a weapon inside her home), the videos may not be her cup of tea. But as Baysider suggested, if you are one of these people who possess or carry firearms, and you have left numerous (racist/terrorist/homophobic/anti-police) rants on Twitter, Facebook, blogs, or other social media, and you end up shooting someone, you can bet your bottom dollar that all those rants will be taken into court as a demonstration of your intemperate attitude and/or behavior. And by the way, even if you are acquitted for murder under circumstances of self-defense, you are going to be financially ruined. A stout defense will clean out your bank account, force you to sell your home, and take your kids down to the pawnshop. Unless you belong to US Law Shield or some similar organization.

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  18. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG>.. I haven’t had open heart surgery but don’t mind watching videos of it, either……I totally understand the Ayoob situation and hoped I made that clear in my last comment….

    How’s my owning a firearm (and I wouldn’t but I applaud those who do) have anything to do with my understanding all of this…?

    My only “frustration in this case” still applies…..the judgment had been MADE. Testimonies, facts, evidence..all looked at, all taken into consideration and found to be self defense. I like to think political correctness cannot come along and change a judgment because the community supports the black guy more. Even if it wasn’t self defense.
    Gardner lost everything he had…his family probably lost a lot too, paying for the defense. …whether he won or not, yes.

    You don’t stiff the doctor because your grandma didn’t make it through her surgery.

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  19. Mustang says:

    @ Z … there are things about this case we simply do not know. An event that initially looked like self-defense could change if, for example, witnesses came forward to testify that Gardner egged on his attacker. I don’t know what happened. I wasn’t there. I do understand that two wrongs never make a right. I do understand that sometimes, people do really stupid things, and sometimes these stupid things turn into tragedies. There is no reason to feel good about shooting/killing someone, it’s simply a better alternative than being killed yourself. I don’t see a case of prosecutorial misconduct here, but I don’t have all the facts, either. Here’s one fact, though: the Grand Jury System is shit. The saying, “A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich” is absolutely true. Being indicted sounds serious, and some people (morons) will argue, “Well he must have done it then.” An indictment is not a finding of guilt, and anyone who thinks that should never be on a jury.

    I wish it hadn’t happened.

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  20. Baysider says:

    Grand juries indict something like 98% of cases presented to them. Depends on the facts presented. And omitted. They aren’t court rooms. No cross examination. That phrase “restore faith in the public justice system” is a minefield today. Translation: We’re making a sacrifice on the altar of CRT, so vote for me next time and don’t burn down city hall.

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  21. Baysider says:

    AOW – wishing you much joy!

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG, thanks….I am glad I know no one who’d be happy for shooting, let alone killing, anyone.

    I see many holes in this awful case…..and I hope a case doesn’t get overturned for PC ever again.

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  23. kidme37 says:

    Z, Well, I triple guarantee you justice happens in court at random and that Juries are about as competent as the individual in a tattoo parlor trying to figure out which one to get next.

    The average person is of average IQ (100), the rest are lots dumber than that.

    Nothing would scare me more than being in a court of law with an iron clad alibi and the average lawyer.

    I hate lawyers. They’ve destroyed everything about life in America and they continue on unabated.
    I hate them on a float, I hate them on a boat. I hate them in a crunch, I hate them very much.

    Generally speaking the justice system is total bonkers. The plaintiff has no skin in the game. They can sue till the cows come home and all of Trump’s acquaintenances go bankrupt even if they ‘win’ the case.

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    KID, (Or should I say Dr Seuss?!!!) ….Oftentimes, those who are bright enough to serve have perfectly good excuses not to go….like doctors, etc… But I think SOME people care about the verdict being the right one; I hope so.

    I think EVERYTHING in our country is SO low down these days that nothing really has dignity or civility or truth in it anymore. I hate to admit that’s how I feel.

    My own uncle’s chipped in about $4 million for a lawsuit with Mohammed Hadid here in Bel Air…it’s in the news so I suppose I can talk about it here…his neighbor who’s in the lawsuit with my uncle’s also chipped in that much..EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS in legal fees, I kid you not.
    I think I’ve emailed you about it…….they’re in court now….let’s see what happens.
    The house may come down but nobody’s getting their money back…….they just protected their resale value, etc.

    TERRIBLE………You’re so right about MOST LAWYERS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    CRANKS

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  25. Mustang says:

    @ Kid

    So does the fact that Billy Clinton was disbarred make him a better person?

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  26. kidme37 says:

    Mustang, the only thing would make the clintons better people would be a tree and some rope.

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  27. kidme37 says:

    Good luck to your uncle. Z. That’s the kind of stuff that makes me understand the street justice of the early America.

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  28. Mustang says:

    You’re so right, Z. The punished (rightly or wrongly) never seem to be able to get their lives back. It’s part of the tragedy we were speaking of earlier. I always looked at “disbarred” as someone who should have never been “barred” to begin with. I hate that the Clintons have always played fast & loose with the rules … and hated it more that they’ve always gotten away with it. Everyone hates lawyers (with good reason) … until you need one. It seems as if the USA has more laws than it does JUSTICE.

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  29. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANT “…the USA has more laws than it does JUSTICE.”

    Amen to that, sadly……

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  30. kidme37 says:

    Z, It’s been long enough since you told me about that house situation, that I find it incredibile it still goes unresolved. A good example of how money distorts the legal system beyond reason.

    Something nags at me to bet it’s going to end up with ‘Well the house is already built now’. Maybe there will be some unsatisfying mediation agreement and payout but I doubt the house is going anywhere at this point.

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  31. Baysider says:

    @Mustang – “So the charges against me were dropped. Now, where do I go to get my reputation back.”

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  32. kidme37 says:

    I’m looking forward to hearing how it resolves.

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