Colin Powell

Well, General Colin Powell passed away this morning, as you all know by now, I’m sure.  Rest in Peace, General.

I am hearing SO much about “First Black….this, First Black that…..” and  it bothers me.  He is a MAN and was apparently very good at all he did.  Except backing Obama, which changed my mind on him forever when he said he thought Obama was “transformative”…that’s for sure.  I wonder if he ever regretted that public declaration of his vote.

Which of these points of the Powell Doctrine would you NOT agree with?

The Powell Doctrine states that a list of questions all have to be answered affirmatively before military action is taken by the United States:

  1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?

  2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?

  3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?

  4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?

  5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?

  6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?

  7. Is the action supported by the American people?

  8. Do we have genuine broad international support?[2]

ALSO:  I’m impressed by Jeh Johnson, who said this morning how much he admired General Powell and how he was more than THE FIRST BLACK anything...he was a man who did the best he can, much of which was excellent, and he HAPPENED to be a Black man.  I felt the same way after hearing all the ‘FIRST BLACK MAN” stuff………who cares? HE WAS A MAN. 

THOUGHTS?!  Z

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18 Responses to Colin Powell

  1. kidme37 says:

    He should have stopped at #2.

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  2. peter3nj says:

    For those who haven’t heard yet a real military man with a real military mind a real man of action died in 2012. You haven’t heard, well he was white so…his Name Was General Schwarzkopf. RIP.

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    Peter, I don’t remember how much hoopla there was when Schwarzkopf died….he was wonderful, wasn’t he.

    KID: WHY? You disagree with the others or the first 2 are so crucial we could avoid the others had we followed them?

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  4. bocopro says:

    Events of the past 40 years or so have instilled in me a skepticism, a sort of distrust or persistent suspicion about any black man appointed to a position of power or importance.

    Powell’s ethnic loyalty to the halfrican cemented that amorphous suspicion into hardened skepticism, as if I’d been betrayed by somebody I’d come to trust.

    No doubt this general was initially a good one, but I think power kinda went to his head and he needed that little guy riding behind him on the chariot reminding him “Thou art only human.”

    But what bothers me most about it is the automatic “covid” knee-jerk reaction. I’ve heard at least half a dozen different reasons for his death . . . other than the fact that he was an octogenarian. I’m goin with the “blood cancer” version.

    We’ll never know the truth about this WuHuFlu bug . . . ever. It’s now a tool for politicians and media, and they’ll make the numbers come out to fit their agenda.

    Did Powell (who was in his mid 80s) die AFTER having the stuff?
    Did he die OF it?
    Did he die WITH it?
    Did he die because it magnified some other condition?
    Or did he just die and the media decided to ratchet up the fear for Joey B.’s “jab for your job” “mandate”? And when did a potusial mandate acquire the force of law?

    From what I’ve read this morning, the general was fully vaccinated. So . . . is anybody safe by being vaccinated? If not, then what’s the big whoop about it, ‘cuz if it’ll still kill you after you’ve had the shots, what’s the point?

    Point is, we don’t know what to believe, and that’s how they like it.

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  5. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO…I wish you could have seen Dr Saphier this morning explaining..
    I’d written a ton more but deleted it… I will leave you with this from googling:

    “He had been treated for multiple myeloma, a type of blood cancer that hurts the body’s ability to fight infections. Fully vaccinated people with weakened immune systems make up a large proportion of hospitalized breakthrough cases, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

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  6. geeez2014 says:

    I don’t usually put ANYTHING on COVID here because every source is apparently “IN IT FOR ITSELF” or “JUST GOVERNMENT BS!” (!) So, what’s the point, right/!!!

    But this stat is pretty much known from all ‘sides’ of this issue “A simplistic analysis of these numbers would yield hospitalization rates of 0.005% for the vaccinated population (1 case in 22,118) and 1.6% for the unvaccinated population (1 case in 62)”

    General Powell hadn’t a chance with all his illnesses and his age..and the type of illnesses, particularly.

    Please, all, keep your immune systems up if you refuse to be vax’d….]

    I am SO hoping Merck’s new pill is approved and proves effective in curing COVID in patients…that would be JUST the ticket…. But, of course, some would say the owner of Merck is just in it for the money.
    THese are rough times…no trust, no correct information, everybody either very cocky in what they believe or rightfully informed and still worried………

    whatever

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  7. kidme37 says:

    If we have a Vital natl security interest threatened, and we have a clear goal (Not so sure attainable is necessary, and who would decide that part of it anyway), then we must act or just sign the papers to the place over to China or whomever.

    3, 4, 5, and 6 are pure analysis paralysis BS, and 7 is laughable. I wonder if we checked with Iran before we put the Aircraft Carriers from Pearl Harbor on their mission to seek out and destroy as much of the Japanese navy equipment as possible.

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  8. Baysider says:

    I really go for 1, 2, and 6.

    The only plausible exit strategy is VICTORY. Know ahead of time what that looks like. Is it 3,000 lives for 20 years of peace, then run with your tail between your legs? Maybe.

    How much time will you spend dinking around with No. 4? Long enough to let the enemy know he can run out the clock with endless variations? Like the North Vietnamese ‘peace’ talks which argued endlessly about the size of the table but were ultimately brought there by Operation Linebacker II which actually bombed the snot out of rail centers and marshaling yards (NOT the HCM Trail) when the NV had run out of SAMs.

    Do we have sufficient international support where it matters? Who cares what Togo thinks, honestly.

    Yes, I lost a lot of respect for him when he backed Obama. But not all. Since he was disillusioned with Republicans (who here is not also?) how could he not support Romney?

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    KId, thanks for the explanation….agreed. SOme of them seemed “Kiss butt” to me, too…particularly #7…as if any American even knows where foreign countries ARE let alone what’s happening there and why?

    Baysider…i think you got VICTORY perfectly described there …20 years, 3000 dead…hideous and true. 😦
    KID AND BAY…#4 feels to me exactly like BAY describes………and we hear it SO often ….
    “Don’t fire till you see the whites of their eyes”…now our enemies can say “Don’t fire till you see America’s waving the white FLAG” 😦

    I’m not against Int’l support 100%…I’m TIRED of OUR paying and OUR kids dying…let others foot the bill and put THEIR kids on the battlefield if the battle at all affects that country, too. Even if it doesn’t :-)!!!

    REALLY lost respect for Powell …but, yes, SUPPORT ROMNEY? On the other hand, “Obama is TRANSFORMATIVE”…ya, we know…change America to the hell hole it’s becoming 😦

    BY THE WAY, anybody hear anything about Valerie Jarrett lately?
    Ya, I thought so. SHe’s busy at the Obama’s running the country with them 😦

    “GEe, Mr. Obama, ” the media asked, “Why are you staying in Washington now that you’re not pres?”

    “We’re staying because of our kids’ schools.”

    “So, NOW why’re you staying now that your girls away at college?”

    OH, ya…running America for Biden $#(Q*&#($&Q#(&

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  10. bunkerville says:

    Was he a GOP or a Dem? Whatever…I always like some loyalty to the people one serves. Other than that my memory grows hazy at this age so I won’t opine further. Either way, he will now join the ranks of the first ……

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    Bunkerville…supposedly GOP…who announced he’d be voting for OBAMA.

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  12. Right. Belong to one group. Vote for the other team.
    There’s a word for that.

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  13. Baysider says:

    I’m not quite that harsh on him Ed. I would not call him a traitor. The Obama endorsement was very disappointing, and his attitude toward Trump even more so. “Skirting the constitution” – he said it about Trump, but who did this in spades, if not Obama? Yes, a blind spot. Or region.

    To clarify about Romney: Since he’s ‘Republican light’ at best, and was more on the commercial side of policy than the war side, it would have been easier to back him than to back some other Rep’s.

    I loved your “hoping Merck’s new pill is approved.” They hope so too! Ivermectin’s been off patent for over 20 years. They had no interest in pushing it. Yes, it’s about the money. Of course businesses have to make a profit. I don’t expect less for Pharma. It’s when they kill people – or let them die/suffer needlessly – because of that I do get angry. They make gargantuan profits off of mostly MY money (taxes) that pays for the base research through federal and university programs. Pharma just brings the pick of the litter to market, plays Byzantine legal games to extend patents, and a big slice of their profit is not subject to the same product liability laws other manufacturers face. That’s a problem. Rant over.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER, Of course they hope so…nobody does these things for free….everybody wants LOTS of business, and if it helps us, more’s the better.
    Gad, the facts are 7,000 have died after being vax’d, and almost all are obese or highly ill before and most are elderly…300,000 dead who weren’t vax’d….

    I follow Dr Makary as I find him even handed on ‘pros and cons’….Anybody too far “over there” is full of prejudice and politics.

    I do believe we are NOT getting drugs like Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and others which DO HELP, and am tired of hearing them mocked….
    Both of these drugs have been used for YEARS for other ailments, nobody’s going to DIE from either one…………I hear some pharmacies don’t even carry them!!

    I also found this fascinating: https://iowaclimate.org/2021/09/16/uttar-pradesh-india-wipes-out-covid-with-ivermectin/

    Emailed to me from CHUCK, a fellow commenter here….Do I believe it? Not sure, but it’s well worth consideration. of all the things Indians might be none of those things is “STUPID”…

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  15. Mustang says:

    Personally, I’m getting sick to death of all this racial shit. I don’t give a fiddler’s damn what color skin he had. I think he was a man of good character — up until he became political, then he sacrificed his character for “skin color” — not just bad mojo, the worst character flaw. No great man can lose his integrity and still be a great man. Not only that, he wasn’t a great general. If he was a great general, we’d be talking about his generalship, not his skin color. I’ll agree with 1-3 … the rest is BS. Exit strategy? Sure, it’s call victory — and the sooner obtained, the better.

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  16. Mustang +1. Benedict Arnold was a hero, until he wasn’t.
    That may be harsh, but what convictions could he have held to throw then away for a socialist race monger like Obama?

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  17. Very recently I had an ailment that demanded Ivermectin according to the WHO, but politics say that health system doctors won’t write it and corporate pharmacies won’t fill it.
    So I got second best treatment. Thankfully it worked.
    But what do I know? I’m “full of prejudice and politics.”

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  18. geeez2014 says:

    Ed, I think a lot of people are so full of WHAT THEY THINK, and POLITICS that the whole country has lost track of the importance of vanquishing this disease.
    When one has lost healthy friends to covid, one gets a different viewpoint and might be more open to understanding a serious pandemic.

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