Doesn’t it stand to reason that…..

……….if we need armed guards at schools, that’s a mental health problem?

That seemed SO obvious when I saw this quote somewhere…”good fruit doesn’t come from a poison tree.”

Doesn’t it seem obvious when 10 year olds in the American South have received guns for years without shooting up there school that IT ISN’T THE GUNS?

 As my post yesterday suggested, when boys feel pushed to KILL other children isn’t that the lack of something in our SOCIETY?

Makes sense to me.  Sadly.

 

Z

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33 Responses to Doesn’t it stand to reason that…..

  1. bocopro says:

    The last few paragraphs from today’s rant (which started out as an evisceration of Puppety Joe and his catastrophic energy policies):

    And guns . . . . Every time some nut gets hold of a weapon and shoots up someplace, liberals demand that government take away the guns from people who didn’t do it. Soetoro was very upset that the guy who shot up a school during George Floyd week wasn’t a white supremacist.

    Most of the time government demands that your children be made vulnerable in “gun free” zones while they do everything they can do make sure you cannot defend them yourself. Then when the kids are slaughtered, government either lies about it or claims it’s your fault because you own a firearm and a gasoline-powered vehicle

    The fad today is to keep weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable people, and I definitely agree . . . starting with Putin, Kim, and Biden. Schmucky’s solution to our problem is beautifully simple: confiscate all privately owned weapons and raise taxes.

    But . . . not to worry, folks . . . this entire kerfuffle over 2nd Amendment rights will become moot when the pendulum swings back from the Red Wave this year and Rinos show with painful clarity why they’re just as managerially inept, politically corrupt, and morally bankrupt as Dems.

    And then one Orwellian day it’ll swing again, libs will get a veto-proof majority in both houses of Congress, and they’ll pass legislation that outlaws private ownership of the friggin ammo.

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  2. peter3nj says:

    You are more than correct Boco. Come November the pendulum the will rest at 180 degrees while the left, without majorities, will cut the republicans and the right (two separate entities) off at the knees. The republicans will surely as the sun rises in the east find ways to fall asleep at the wheel while the left works it’s magic. Only republicans in power can keep the left afloat as little will be done in the two years prior to 2024. So ya wanna take bets on who will be Kho’s black lesbian avowed Marxist VP pick? By hi hi

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  3. peter3nj says:

    Ignore spellcheck’s by hi hi.

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  4. Mustang says:

    You’ve heard me say this before — and frankly, I’m growing tired of saying it. Yes, shamefully, we place our children into penitentiary-like settings by compulsory laws that demand we do so, even when there is a considerable body of evidence that in doing so, we retard their intellectual growth and make them angry at being placed into penitentiary-like environments. Oh yeah … there is a mental health issue in our country, but it is one we created by over-medicating our kids with seriously dangerous drugs. Baysider has the skinny on this. We know it’s true … and yet elect to do nothing about it. We aren’t having a gun problem; we’re having a major mental health problem. Absolutely. It only takes ONE nut-bag to terrorize a campus of between 1,200 and 3,000 students. The weapon of choice depends on what the nut-bag can get his hands on and believe me when I say if you didn’t like seeing the carnage of gun-shot ten-year-olds, you would not want to see the result of kids murdered by a machete, a pitch-fork, or an automobile.

    So, what are we doing about the drug-to-psychotic problem? Not a damn thing.

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  5. bocopro says:

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  6. geeez2014 says:

    PETER and BOCOPRO…… We’ll see what’ll happen IF we win the Midterms… i can’t be the only one seeing the attacks (which are legit, apparently) on Herschel Walker and others….to insure voters turn from them…all by the DNC, of course. I’m optimistic but not AS optimistic as I’ve been.

    MUSTANG: No, we see nothing being done about the drug problem. As you know, they give drugs to little boys even when they’re just BEING BOYS but can’t be HANDLED. Odd, we USED to be able to handle them; perhaps it was those pesky FATHERS who got in the way of drugging our kids into oblivion…and violence.
    Drugged kids is certainly A problem contributing to gun violence…
    I believe armed guards will make schools more ‘penitentiary like’ than they have been..

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  7. bocopro says:

    A jpg relevant to the drug thingie is festering in limbo . . . know it’s there ‘cuz when it didn’t show after the 0659 post, I tried again and the bot told me I was duping and had already “said” that.

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  8. bunkerville says:

    Schools suck the life out of kids.. its what its suppose to do.. The setup started in the 1800’s for the purpose to train workers for the industrial revolution. Widgets..lined up in rows…. Take a couple of hours to tutor a kid each day with full attention, and I suggest you will have the same result. Mustang is right and how much I thought the same thing when I drove past a mega school and all those kids housed in tickey tack boxes…in a bigger box.
    Many kids can’t handle it.. after all we were never designed to live like rats in cages. All lined up in rows. Fights break out.. exactly what one finds in the animal kingdom when too many are in one place. So we drug the kids… that will work.. well maybe not.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    BUNKERVILLE! Yet all of us did well in those big boxes….at least everyone I know did. Lawns, trees, quads…clean, large classrooms….pretty good attempt to ‘house’ many children in one location, which is, after all, what school is.
    With armed guards? Yes, while I see they’re probably necessary now, THAT makes it an institution…a very sad place for children to pass through … HORRID.
    And, of course, inner city schools are nothing like I describe from the experience my friends and I had…

    I have tutored kids and sub’d for many….’same result?’ as what?

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  10. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO…if you mean it’s in ‘limbo’ in my comment moderation, it isn’t. sorry. I just checked for you.

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    IS THERE ANYBODY WHO’D BE THRILLED TO RECEIVE THIS “from DJT, Jr. ”

    “Friend,

    You need to see this.

    My father just asked about you. He is about to send a TOP SECRET message to his Trump MVPs. See for yourself…(Z…cell phone here with this message by TRUMP!)

    You have a chance to get your Trump MVP status so that you can receive President Trump’s CONFIDENTIAL message.

    Do not wait any longer, Friend.”

    Yup…am going to RUSH to get his confidential message!??

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  12. bocopro says:

    Ah, well . . . c’est la vie. The pic is a teenager holding a spoon full of pills and capsules he’s just taken from a bowl in front of him.

    A cellfone lies beside the bowl, and the caption reads “School shootings weren’t a problem for Generation X. It started with Generation Rx .”

    (In response to Mustang’s 0633 comment)

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    While I believe that drug is mostly for lazy parents and teachers, and eager doctors, not for little boys who just want to misbehave like little boys always have from time to time, I don’t believe this whole mess of juvenile shootings can be solely or even largely based on that as its cause.

    I stand firm on the lack of fathers being a huge cause…..not to say the supposed ‘need’ for going on those drugs might not be a result of a lack of fathering, too. ADHD is a big reason for that drug…boys are more subject to ADHD than girls are…WHY? Because I BELIEVE ADHD diagnoses are mostly just BOYS WHO DON’T WANT TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK OR SIT QUIETLY FOR SIX HOURS AT SCHOOL.
    Am I oversimplifying? Probably… But I’m not wrong… I’ve heard this far too much from experts on the anti Ritalin side.

    We have social, cultural problems in our country now….Children aren’t seeing the decent behavior of most of our parents anymore….Children today say “F YOU” to their parents. We weren’t allowed to say “Shut Up!” at home. I still don’t use it! (I do, sometimes use the F word, however!! I said “the damned…” something or other to Mom last night and was surprised she said nothing!!! :-))

    At the school I was associated with, I heard snotty young teens demanding on the phone that their mother come back from DOWNTOWN with the camera the kid had forgotten in her car…downtown, in rush hour, from where Mom had to leave her job to comply with her child’s demand…AND DID.
    MY mother would have said “You forgot it for your photo class? Maybe you’ll remember next time if your teacher marks you down”. Amen. Just one example of what kids are today….who are not on ritalin.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    RE SCHOOLS and whatever damage many of us think they cause , I had an interesting phone call from a dear Jewish friend of mine.

    He had gone to the HS Graduation of the Christian high school where I worked….and loved it. He said the speakers were fantastic, kids and administrators…..respect was shown, no political crap, but plenty of opinions on grace and truth and standing by your beliefs, etc. Christianity is not pushed on anyone there…we have had a few Muslims and Jews there over the years. Discipline is tantamount, kids LOVE this school (as much as any kid could love school!), they stay friends for years after…I know this. They treat us admin types with respect and fun….Sure, they have discipline problems; they are then told to leave after a lot of talks with admin, parents, etc…VERY respectful, protective of the school and the other children.

    He then went to a gathering at the local Jewish High School his daughter attends. He hated it. His daughter had started a club of writers and this gathering was to have some of the read their pieces to the audience of largely family…. One girl ended her piece with “I am a BISEXUAL”..(to which other of the writers gathered around her, hugging her in delight)..
    Other kids talked of parents in very disrespectful ways right in front of their parents, mostly leftwing crap these kids have sucked up from our society……… It was dreadful. I would venture a guess Judaism is not a guiding force of this school but lefting is….As he says (He is a conservative) almost all temples today are leftwing…it’s rare to find a Synagogue of open thought and respect.

    I found this interesting …hoped you might, too.

    Am I saying the Christians do a better job? No, but in the case of these two schools, apparently so. Is it the admin and not faith? Probably…but the faith helps…. I saw it every day, subtly, and there in the best ways…

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  15. MAL says:

    RE: A red wave in November:
    Sure..if we still have a country left in 5 months, and if we have an honest election, not like in 2020.

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  16. bunkerville says:

    Z… not the way many schools are….and for many its not the way we grew up… just saying.. We may have done ok but our generation failed our kids.

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    BUNKERVILLE…that our generation has failed kids is absolutely true.
    I didn’t have some ‘pie in the sky’ education…I went to public schools, good schools with caring non-politics sharing teachers……..all the way through college. I don’t think I’m rare…at least not for when I was in school….I graduated college in 1973.

    I agree many schools are not that way today, as I noted in my comment.

    MAL>… I agree….now the WH dope Press Sec says it’s not important for us to drill here.

    AND, the SAUDI OIL CHIEF IS VISITING RUSSIA TODAY. Think that’s normal?
    nope, it isn’t. It’s all about Biden’s upcoming ridiculous visit to the “Pariah.”

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  18. MAL says:

    When I tanked up yesterday at Costco, it was a historic $5.15 / gallon. NOT good! It’s gonna get even worse so hang on, folks.

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  19. Baysider says:

    “we’re having a major mental health problem” is true. But interestingly enough, they are not so stupid as to shoot up places where people can shoot back at them. The silent deterrent.

    I was a great candidate for sitting in a classroom and actually learning. By the time I was in 4th grade I was aware others were not. Many others. On top of parking your butt still for hours on end, they took away recess in many schools. We ALL need fresh air breaks, and to run around and exhaust energy. Poor boys especially. So much wrong with schools. Just as big ag has developed CAFO techniques to ‘raise’ animals (confined animal feeding operations) so have the educrats developed CHALO (confined human animal learning ops) to cook to mush, pelletize and dry out minds like dog kibble.

    So, so good to hear that feedback on your school. Elsewhere it’s a common norm to instill a lifeless, hopeless outlook. .

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  20. geeez2014 says:

    MAL…we’re about $6.50 here! (no, not the $10 FOX is constantly touting…except for the one gas station they got a picture of)
    Yes, it’s going to get worse.

    You pleased LAXALT won? Was his veteran opponent burned at war? It looks like he’d suffered facial burns, poor guy!!

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  21. Baysider says:

    Mal – I filled up at Costco here at $5.40-ish

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  22. geeez2014 says:

    I’m WAY WAY more concerned about food prices in the short run….. I’m not driving much , so…
    And VERY few are complaining about the food prices in conjunction with gas…odd.

    But the gas being SO high is scary because we might not GET food or anything else till trucks can fill up reasonably…..

    BAYSIDER…glad you got to Costco without the horrid lines I’ve heard of…

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  23. Baysider says:

    Oh, there was a very long line. I was out in Pacoima.

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  24. geeez2014 says:

    BAY…Oh yes….Pacoima would…I’ve heard even the Marina’s Costco has long gas lines whenever prices are up elsewhere!!!!

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  25. MAL says:

    Baysider, Costco is much cheaper, as we know, so those prices for petrol are high, no question. However, most of us use the Costco Visa (currently Citibank) and we get 4% back at the end of the year which translates into over .20 cents additional savings, or in our case, $4.95 per gallon. Still high, but still better than most. Our son who is living in Cheyenne said they were paying something like $3.65 a gallon. That was about a month ago but still a whole lot cheaper. They have no state income tax and only a 5% sales tax. No masks were mandated at any time, either. He loves it there.

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  26. MAL says:

    Z, we had voted for Sam Brown, also a veteran, but Adam Laxalt is a good one, too.

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  27. Elizabeth says:

    Z wrote to Bunkerville “BUNKERVILLE…that our generation has failed kids is absolutely true.
    I didn’t have some ‘pie in the sky’ education…I went to public schools, good schools with caring non-politics sharing teachers……..all the way through college. I don’t think I’m rare…at least not for when I was in school….I graduated college in 1973.

    Yes, Z, you are right the baby boomers have failed this generation of kids. The generation that was against the establishment is not that establishment they had said they hated. Never say you hate something or do not want to be like that lest you become worse. The Boomers are a prime example of failing on many levels and personally, I am very disappointed. Our parents truly were the last GREAT generation.

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  28. geeez2014 says:

    Elizabeth…I think they WERE the last GREAT generation……good point. Sad, but true!

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  29. kidme37 says:

    The children of WWII veterans, true Americans in any case, lovers of liberty, have failed not this generation. This latest generation, based on 15 years per, are 3 to 4 generations removed from the young ones running around today. It is the parents of the latest generation who have failed.

    Just for giggles though, imagine this was a valid concept. Imagine what sort of generations we are producing now, if kids born in a true America couldn’t get it done.

    Nope, back to the drawing board on this one,

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  30. geeez2014 says:

    KID, REALLY!? The kids of WWII Vets are now US….the 1969 Woodstock hippie generation……..no? I never fell for that hippie stuff too much, but my friends sure did! I’ll bet you didn’t….

    We have to wonder how the incredible young Conservatives running this year and even recently before that come from….Byron Donalds, Flores, Boebert (though she’s so hyperbolic she might not last with that mouth), ..young people I’ve heard in candidacy ads…………You bring up a good point…..seems like PARENTING is getting more and more lax…………where did these people COME FROM ? !!!!!

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  31. geeez2014 says:

    KID..it’s a great point…I’m glad you brought it up.

    I guess we all know not EVERYONE in each generation is SO cookie-cutter….there are exceptions, but…

    For example, I think we all have nieces and nephews who appear to be raising upstanding little ones….aged around 10 years old…. I know PLENTY of GREAT kids at the high school……..

    But we see such AWFUL stuff all around us…..I’m not against a Tatt here and there but you see a fully tatted body with pink hair and metal all over their face, and you have to know SOMETHING IS WRONG……

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  32. kidme37 says:

    I gauge a person’s mental health on the quantity and type of tattoos they have. Hey, nice they wear signs I guess.

    There are of course good kids and good parents, but WAY more parents today are the product os indoctrination and social decay. I look at American society and see a body being consumed by cancer.

    Eventually there won’t be any left and any that are will be imprisoned subjects (literal or figurative) of an out of control government.

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