Fentanyl…….some questions

This is a very sad story about drug use and Fentanyl…..

That article includes this:   “Our priority is focused on the man Jaylon was and the positive impact he made on so many as a father, son, fiancé, friend and teammate.”

Here’s a successful football player with a good future with a father, son, fiance, etc., and he’s doing cocaine.  And some of his cocaine was apparently bought with Fentanyl on it, or experimented with, hoping “i’ll be just enough to get really high and get me freer from pain”?

MY QUESTION IS SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN ON MY MIND FOR A WHILE:

DO YOU THINK THE FEAR OF FENTANYL COULD HELP PEOPLE STOP TAKING DRUGS?  THAT IT COULD SCARE THEM ‘STRAIGHT’?     MAYBE?   Yes, I KNOW not the hard core types, they think they’re infallible, anything for a high, and maybe it’s just WE who are more sensible and would learn from the deaths of others, but………..maybe??

Has anyone heard BIDEN mention FENTANYL? Even in spite of THIS?  Or, since so much is coming over our OPEN BORDER, they’re afraid to?    Senator Portman isn’t.

CAN FENTANYL BE DROPPED IN WATER SUPPLY?

There’s a cheery thought, huh?

Z

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29 Responses to Fentanyl…….some questions

  1. kidme37 says:

    Cocaine and heroin users don’t care about fentanyl.

    Portman doesn’t care about any of it. He’s flapping his gums cause it’s getting near an election.

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  2. Mustang says:

    I have no answers to any of your questions. I went online and found a few facts about it — and I learned that fentanyl is just another of more than a few self-inflicted disasters. When you look at all the things that end human life, you begin to wonder if “natural causes” isn’t in the minority. I checked. Now I’m not sure what a “natural death” is.

    Leading the pack in the U.S.A. is heart disease, but isn’t this too “self-inflicted?” Doesn’t heart disease occur because of smoking, the things we eat, and lack of exercise? Don’t we all know enough about this now to have taken a different path in our lives?

    Ranked second, cancer — which takes a little over 600,000 lives annually. Ranked third was COVID (under 400,000) and accidents at just half that. The death rate in this country is 1,027 per 100,000 population. In a year, on average, 3.38 million — what, one percent of the population?

    What I found interesting, though, is that death due to drug overdose (listed on one site as around 100,000 annually) doesn’t appear on the CDC’s list of leading causes of death. Strange. (As of 2020).

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    KID….I suppose when you need that high, you’ll think you’re invincible…..

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  4. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG…Fentanyl is definitely a serious concern when millions of dollars of it are being found in the trunks of cars and apartments filled also with weapons.
    Drug deaths like that described in my link are nothing to be ignored and I’m not a big believer in the CDC anymore, but they list some information here:
    https://www.cdc.gov/stopoverdose/fentanyl/index.html

    Maybe one of us should do a post on cancer and heart disease……..but I think most of us know enough about those things and I hope we’re all taking good care of ourselves.

    To know about Fentanyl deaths is important…the amounts of Fentanyl coming into our country marked as fairly ‘mainstream’ drugs such as Zanax and other drugs is astonishing…and I’m hoping young people especially might be “scared straight’.

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  5. bocopro says:

    Biden is out of it . . . totally. His identifying characteristics are plagiarizing, knee-jerking, hyperbolising, and ducking the issue.

    When I was 12, my mother married a decent guy who liked to drink. Not an alcoholic, just a frequent drunk. Lived in their house ‘til I went to college in the late 50s. Then in 1960 I joined the Navy, where most enlisted guys smoked and drank beer to excess.

    Never really developed a taste for beer, but somebody was always shovin one in my face, so usually I drank it, to be sociable. Did develop a taste for rum ‘n’ coke with a squeeze, and on certain occasions might wind up commode-huggin, knee-walkin, snot-slingin knackered.

    Navy life has a very persuasive way of determining if you’re an alcoholic or just drink too damned much sometimes: get plowed for an entire weekend shootin pool or watchin sports or whatever . . . then go to sea for 30 days without a drop of the stuff. Alcoholics self-identify fairly quickly.

    Watched careers crawl inside kegs and drown or guys dent their skulls with fifth or quart jugs and decided that that wasn’t appropriate behavior for a guy with 4 kids dependin on him for the necessities, let alone the luxuries.

    Never entered my mind to throw away rank, income, education, medical care, a warm dry place to sleep, and good chow to trip out on mind-altering chemicals. Never once dropped acid, rode a horse with no name, popped whites or reds, or even rolled a fattie.

    Didn’t make sense . . . MUCH more fun to just have a glass of merlot or shot of Drambuie or good sippin whiskey now and then and watch the other guys release their inhibitions to toss their common sense overboard and wind up in the brig for the jarheads to torment.

    Beer makes guys friendly, booze makes ‘em silly, and weed makes ‘em hungry. Meth makes ‘em stupid, and supermeth makes ‘em dead. I won’t even take codeine or tramadol when doctors prescribe it for me for pain. Doesn’t look as if I have an addictive-type personality, but why take the chance?

    If I’m gonna die by puttin somethin in my mouth, it’s gonna be pizza, or banana splits, or lava cakes, or cheeseburgers, not poison.

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  6. kidme37 says:

    I’m convinced some people are drawn to drugs and some just aren’t. Way it is. Not gonna change.

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  7. geeez2014 says:

    KID, I think you’re right about that……….but I’m hoping SOME kids who just want to ‘try it because my friends are’ MIGHT think twice. Maybe I’m dreaming. I hope not. It would have scared ME straight, believe me.
    It’s REALLY scary that they’re now printing pills with normal names on them…like Zanax, etc…but they have Fentanyl IN them. So even adults really have to be careful and know where their legitimate drugs are coming from.

    BOCOPRO…great stuff! VERY interesting observations….for some reasons, the way you put this cracked me up! “Alcoholics self-identify fairly quickly” Sure sounds like it!
    And YES!, let’s us two OD on cheeseburgers and pizza! 🙂
    What’s your favorite pizza topping? (or two!)

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  8. bunkerville says:

    The sad ending to this tale is that older folks as well as younger who are suffering from debilitating pain are denied adequate pain control. PA will simply not write any prescription for any type of pain medication. Short term or otherwise. For those in their 70s one has to ask, what if the person becomes addicted? Denied a quality of life, I believe many are forced to suicide.

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  9. Elizabeth says:

    This is very sad and it is a huge problem with the southern border now having the highest rate of bringing it into the United States. Not the import we want or need. So dangerous. God help us!

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  10. bocopro says:

    As you prob’ly know, the pizza in Italy ain’t a’tall like what we’re accustomed to here. Basically just a farina tortilla smeared with marinara and drizzled with olive oil before being thrust into a niche in a wood stove.

    Best pizza I ever had was in a mom & pop ristorante in North Chicago, “Canale’s,” with thick crust, extra pepperoni, and medium-spicy salsiccia. I am joined in that opinion by all of my adult offspring, each of whom considers himself a pizza officionado.

    Canales’ trick was to sprinkle a generous mix of powdered romano and provolone onto the edges of the crust before baking. I asked what they used to make the glaze on the crust . . . and was told it was a family secret. Odd flavor . . . kinda like anisette. Worked, tho. GREAT pizza.

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    BUNKERVILLE, that is SUCH a good and true point…..
    I’m having a hip replacement next month and I KNOW they give pretty strong stuff (which I won’t take)…I know Tramadol is still given, Oxicodone, too, I BELIEVE? So I don’t know if, perhaps, it has to do with DOSAGE?, but I have heard exactly what you’re saying…and that is WRONG.
    If people desperately need pain relief, they should have it.

    Yes, “could they become addicted?” And, in our 70’s, maybe that’s a legit fear…but I’ve heard that in people’s late 80’s…!! They don’t have TIME to become addicted if they’re so ill they need such pain relief! 🙂

    Visiting Grandma years ago at a retirement home, I used to flip when I heard the doctors wouldn’t allow the REALLY old people an occasional cigarette or a delicious hamburger or something because ‘there’s fat in it”. This, to old people who could barely hold their heads up in the wheel chair! I have to admit I slipped a cigarette to one VERY old man….And I’m still glad I did!!

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    ELIZABETH, it’s really a horrible thing………they’re finding enough pills in some homes that could kill FORTY MILLION AMERiCANS! I wonder if it’s possible to still work if slipped into our water supply! God help us, is right!

    BOCOPRO…’extra pepperoni” says it for ME, too! I think putting toppings right to the edge is a great idea because I’m one of those who’ll stop eating when the topping stops…on the edges! I eat bread crust, of course, but will leave the ‘white’ edges of a pizza not infrequently…
    WOuld you believe that as huge a FOODIE as I consider myself, a pretty good cook and aware of most ingredients, I had to Google Salsciccia? Sausage…..YUM. If it’s a great sausage, I’ll even choose that over my beloved pepperoni!!
    I’m just SO glad you didn’t include PINEAPPLE and HAM. When I was living in London for a short time, MANY years ago, that’s all I could FIND there!!! Not a fan. I was only there for a month or so, living with a bunch of Englishmen! They were all out one night and I walked across the street, could only find pineapple/ham pizza so I bought one…came home and watched Rockford Files…Talk about feeling NOT HAPPY. In London, bad pizza and Rockford Files? I’m more a “When in Rome..” fan! Thankfully, that was the ONLY bad night (or day) on that trip!

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO….dovetailing off “When in Rome…”…….We were in Vienna and getting on a small boat on the Danube to Budapest one morning about 8:30…..room for about twenty to sit…..in the front were about 10 Japanese people…. When WE got served Hungarian sausages, peppers, breads, and other DELICIOUS things, they had somehow found sushi at 8 AM in Vienna and were eating that!!

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/greg-gutfeld-biden-officials-liberal-world-order-comment-biggest-reveals

    Hoping a lot of you saw thise remark by Deese………very little said about it and it’s huge. It’s what most of us have been saying for a very long time 😦

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  15. peter3nj says:

    Heart disease is a stepchild of type 1 diabetes as well as drug addiction. By the time I had my quadruple bypass in 2005 I had been a type 1 diabetic for 38 years. A life long athlete, as well as high school basketball 🏀 soccer ⚽️ and baseball/ softball ⚾️ official my heart was functioning at 20%. Why bother making matinee stars out of diabetics, an affliction no one chooses. Meanwhile Fentanyl users choose their poison when patronizing drug dealers then the taxpayers are stuck with the bill for billions while giving the politicians another reason to stick it to us. Suicidal drug addicts need our attention and our money, ask any elite. My late ex-father in law struck by polio as a young man was fond of saying sympathy comes between shit and syphliss in the dictionary. Why not ship fentanyl addicts south of the border down Mexico way saving all that diesel fuel for the cartels?

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  16. peter3nj says:

    My comment was lost in space…?

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  17. kidme37 says:

    Bunk,that’s the real tragedy. Honest law abiding people having to do gymnastics to get pain meds if they can even get them because of a few degenerates. Pull my DL out to get friggin Sudafed but don’t need it to vote. Friggin evil clown show.

    And let’s not lose focus on the problem. It is not the Southern border. It is China who is shipping ithe fentanyl in, China who created (with our help) and spread Covid around the world to get rid of Trump. China who owns probably half of the US government. China who pollutes the world. Why does no one talk about China. Must be too profitable not to. And they don’t even need the S border. Way Less than one % of the shipping containers bringing chinese goods, food, pet food, prescription drugs and everything else in get ‘inspected’.

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  18. geeez2014 says:

    So PETER…not sure why your questions about where your comment is print and your comments sometimes don’t!? ANyway, there it is.

    I kinda like the SYMPATHY phrase…! Smart guy!! Well, there’s another reason we need to stop Fentanyl…..not that many CHOOSE to do it, it just gets tacked on to their crap and they die, usually…
    I’m so glad your bypass did you well! Was your heart functioning at 20% WHILE you were doing sports like that, or after you’d aged a bit?!!!

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  19. kidme37 says:

    Peter, and I read where Narcan doses administered to almost dead addicts on the street are $600 per. Probably more than that. Gee, wonder who pays for that.

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  20. geeez2014 says:

    KID, right….and who pays for the “Shoot heroin stations?” US.

    But, heck, our tax dollars and paying to send illegals all over this country, sick or well, so what’s a little more, right?
    Here in California, if Newsom gets his way and actually PAYS for young girls in some other state to fly here to kill her baby, I think all Californians should sue for flights to Hawaii……….WE’re paying for it, why not?

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  21. geeez2014 says:

    KID….I think a lot of people are getting on to the China infiltration….It’s everywhere! “MADE IN CHINA” we’ve always had has now taken on a whole new meaning.

    Everyone knows China’s responsible for Fentanyl but, hey, Hunter and Jim Biden (and Joe) were paid so well they’ll ignore it….UNbelievable.

    I was REALLY dismayed to see that Nutrisystem does NOT say where their foods are made….It’s clever because it says “DISTRIBUTED IN PENNSYLVANIA” (or somewhere in the States, anyway) and I Googled and people are asking IS IT MADE IN CHINA? and the answers are like “Nobody knows for sure.” Oh, REALLY?
    That’s just one example.

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  22. MAL says:

    What Boco said about pizza being so different in Italy compared to here reminds me the same applies to Chop Suey not being Chinese, but American.
    Also, when we lived in Olympia we enjoyed having a calzone at a counter in the Capital Mall that was out of this world! It all depends on who is making them, doesn’t it?

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  23. Baysider says:

    “Fear of” stepping outside social and legal boundaries keeps most of us in line most of the time. But attitudes like “I can do this” or “just this one time” or “I’m invincible” or “f the system” will draw a minority over the line. My rule of thumb is 5% will ALWAYS do right no matter how much pressure otherwise; 5% will always do wrong cuz they’re just that way; and the 90% in between will be kept in line by boundaries. The firmness of those boundaries, and the certitude of unpleasant consequences for crossing them as well as the extent to which people really believe God is watching them, will determine if that number is more like 90% or 60%. It’s that mobile middle we target with laws, warnings, teachings, object lessons and rewards.

    I love an hispanic comic who talks about how hispanic mothers teach by illustration. For example “you keep doin’ what you’re doin’ and you’ll end up like your cousin Victor (in jail).” 🙂

    “Distributed in” or even “assembled in” in big print are hopeful distractions.

    “The future of the world liberal order.” WHATTTT? The word liberal is only thrown in for the same reason “distributed in” appears on a label, to throw you off the scent.

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  24. MAL says:

    Z, I continually see the same thing at a lot of places we shop. A lot of Costco’s stuff says “distributed by Costco in Kirkland, Wa.” or WalMart often says “distributed by WalMart in Omaha”. Often if you look all over a package it will finally disclose “product of China” hidden somewhere.
    But hey! We sure enjoy buying a new pair of jeans instead of sewing a button back on the old ones! And holes? You pay extra to get them worn out looking!

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  25. geeez2014 says:

    MAL…Yes, it depends on who’s making them. I think some of the pizzas I’ve had here are better than in Rome….but it depends on WHERE, you’re right! I DO like the thin crust and you find that more in Italy, as far as I could see!
    And yes, the more holes, the more expensive, chic jeans!! go FIGURE.
    DISTRIBUTED is a term like LIBERTARIAN.
    If someone is Conservative but doesn’t want to tell a Liberal, they often say “I’m Libertarian”…If companies don’t want customers to know it’s from China, they just say where it’s DISTRIBUTED from, I think!

    BAYSIDER. I’m afraid I’ll just say again that most Americans think of LIBERAL as LEFTWING, not the classical liberal it was meant to be……..that’s just the way it is!

    ALso, sometimes it’s best to single out a comment we’re replying to ….hard to tell what comments are coming from sometimes. If you’re talking about my point that FEAR OF Fentanyl could keep kids from doing some drugs, I’m thinking FEAR OF is a pretty strong persuader!! !??

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  26. geeez2014 says:

    FOX’s Hillary Vaughn, Steve Doocy’s new wife, is the only person I’ve heard other than Martha MacCallum (and me) who pronounces Fentanyl correctly….not FentyNALL…!!
    Why I get bugged by mispronunciations is a mystery 🙂 But when it’s people’s JOB to talk , and to investigate, and to prosecute FENTANYL, you’d think………..!! ?

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  27. Baysider says:

    Yes, exactly. Fear of.

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  28. peter3nj says:

    Geeez
    I was a young guy athletic 54 when I nearly took the trip to nowhere. The surgery is 17 years old. I took a licking and keep on ticking at 71.

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  29. geeez2014 says:

    PETER…glad you’re TICKING!!! 🙂

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