This MATTERS and shouldn’t be ignored (in my humble opinion!)

THIS PROBABLY SEEMS LIKE NOTHING TO MOST OF YOU………….BUT, I think it’s HUGE and indicative of real trouble in America.

Sure, not all of us care about  the University of Michigan, or its medical school….but what these grads did last weekend, what it says about them (and some of their parents who joined them)  to ME, is beyond scary.

I care that we have medical school grads, I congratulate them because it’s a hell of a haul to go through med school…….but to WALK OUT because a speaker who is known to be pro life (but isn’t speaking on that subject) is the grad speaker?  You can’t LISTEN to another opinion?  And she didn’t speak about abortion at ALL!    And what happens when these students get patients who are pro life?

We know this country’s left-sided now……but I suppose I’m extremely naive in believing America was built on at least LISTENING to other opinions….and maybe not rude enough to turn backs and walk out on someone?

Do you see my point?   These aren’t stupid people, they’re silly, one-sided, unthinking, indoctrinated JERKS and the very fact they JUST WON’T HAVE THIS WOMAN THERE is indicative of something we all know exists but shouldn’t allow to happen.  Thankfully, there’s this:

The article includes “In his ( the school’s dean)  decision, he expressed the “critical importance of diversity of personal thought and ideas, which is foundational to academic freedom and excellence,” according to the report.

HALLELUJAH to the Dean!

Z

 

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14 Responses to This MATTERS and shouldn’t be ignored (in my humble opinion!)

  1. Mustang says:

    I think you are 100% right to be concerned about this. As you say, it doesn’t matter as much that these “medical doctors” have a different point of view — it is that they choose not to listen to any other person’s point of view. And part of this, I feel, is that these “college educated” privileged class can so easily dismiss (out of hand) anyone who disagrees with THEIR point of view. They judge those pro-life — as have Obama and H. Clinton in the past as if they are country bumpkins; you know, people who cling to their Bibles and guns. A close-minded doctor is not a good doctor — but then again, they are young, idealistic, and haven’t a clue. Most of those who walked out (and note it wasn’t even most of those who were present) will turn around as they mature. Some won’t — most will.

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  2. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG! Well, my dear friend! OPTIMISM, thank you…I TOTALLY agree with you and honestly hadn’t given that consideration…YES, most of them WILL mature and turn around…..young people DO…….I love that. And I also was happy it wasn’t a huge representation of that group which walked out…..you’re right.
    And yes, we welcome different points of view…that’s science, that’s the study of medicine….and it’s often how we find cures, new ideas, etc.
    THanks, Mustang……..And don’t you agree that the School Dean said just the right thing?
    You lifted my spirits; when I saw your comment; I was so down because it’s SO important we at least listen to other points of view and think about them…discard then, that’s fine, but LISTEN. Particularly young people, and particularly young doctors whose patients will come to them with different views….
    thank you

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  3. bocopro says:

    Well . . . yeah —

    If a conservative doesn’t like guns, they don’t buy one. If a liberal doesn’t like guns, then no one should have one.

    If a conservative is a vegetarian, they don’t eat meat. If a liberal is, they want to ban all meat products for everyone.

    If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

    If a conservative is homosexual, they quietly enjoy their life. If a liberal is homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect.

    If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

    If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

    If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A liberal wants all churches to be silenced.

    If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.

    But . . . all that said, I gotta tell ya that if I were placed in a situation where I could not avoid coming face to face with Basement Joe, Shrillary, Schiffty, or the halfrican, I’d make eye contact, spit at his or her feet, and turn to walk away without further comment.

    The only thing I’d say if meeting Trump would be, “Hire a personality coach. Your Howard Cosell persona ain’t cuttin it.”

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  4. JG says:

    This is why I stopped giving to my University because they became stupid. I finished in the late 70s but changes in all colleges added admin, social programs and degrees that were useless, and added heavy costs. I had met my wife at UCLA and our sons were born in California as we were.

    However business moved me to the East Coast in 96 and we found the school systems poor and corrupted. Me and my wife tried with teachers, admin, and the school board to fix things but got nowhere. We ended up tutoring our sons to get them through school with a proper education like we had. Both decided on different Trade Schools and it was a good choice at cost less then half a year of college and they make around 6 figures, have houses, cars, and good bank accounts.

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  5. bunkerville says:

    Mustang…. not so sure I agree that most will turn the corner. My experience with working with Residents and later full fledged Doctors they remain fixed in their ways.. Especially when it comes to treatments. One reason that Nursing homes become death traps. It’s old and tired Docs who wind up treating older folks and have been treating patients one way for a condition, and will and do not embrace new treatments or for that matter new tests.
    Actually no one really for the most part wants to treat older patients. They are complicated, take much time, and financially not money makers.

    That has been the problem with COVID.. once committed it is difficult for them to change an opinion I see no difference in this arena as well.

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  6. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO…yes, I’ve seen that list before a few times and it’s TRUE, isn’t it.
    “Hire a personality coach. Your Howard Cosell persona ain’t cuttin it.” So true, only Cosell wasn’t QUITE this nasty. I said to a friend a day or so ago “Trump HAD this and he’s blown it with his blustering”…and I know I’m right. A tiny bit of empathy, a little better explanation regarding 1/6 (I’ve asked here probably 3 times and have asked on FB and asked friends “What’s the REASON Trump didn’t want to go back to the WH that day, in the limo he supposedly attacked the driver in?” As far as I can see, nobody else even wonders and I think that’s HUGE. MAYBE he was hoping he could go calm things down back on the Hill? NOT ONE PERSON who supported him 100% during his administration is saying what’s being said isn’t true 😦
    I’m not sure his ego COULD have pulled the prosters at the Capitol back, but MAYBE? He lost his standing (except with his base who’ll never leave him anyway) and he’s jeopardized America now because so many American ignoramuses believe ALL REPUBLICANS ARE LIKE TRUMP …….
    And still I’d give anything if he was president again. TODAY

    JG…..thanks for that info…….I’m so glad it worked out so well for your children……TOO MANY college kids are LOST with their big salaries and big cocaine habits 😦

    BUNKERVILLE…it is NOT a lucrative specialty and yet my nephew and SO many of his fellow new doctors (about 4 years since ends of residency) are Geriatricians and LOVE it. My own internist is also a geriatrician. But it is NOT lucrative…mostly Medicare, etc.

    I think Mustang has a point, as do you…..As people mature, they DO learn and can change, but NOT ALWAYS, for sure.
    And yes, they’re afraid of COVID, don’t know enough and can’t research themselves, so they cling to the general philosophy on all of it….. AND some of them just write COVID on death certificates because their hospital gets $$$$ 😦

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  7. MAL says:

    Everyone needs to stay out of the pro-choice, anti-abortion issue. PERIOD.
    It’s her her body, not the government’s or the medical professionals.
    The reminds me of a conversation a former neighbor had with a Mexican laborer doing some work for him. Both were Catholics, and when the worker said they use birth control, my neighbor said the Pope is against that, to which the Mexican said “Yeah, but the Pope doesn’t have to pay for the kids”. (my neighbor had 5 children).

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  8. Mustang says:

    Right, Mal … but without those Catholics churning out babies, all we are left with here in Estados Unidos is Muslims doing rumpy-pumpy with four wives (three undeclared) until they take over America through the voting process. None of us will have to deal with it, but it is coming to a theater near you.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    MAL and MUSTANG…I REALLY am in a conundrum about abortion….Part of me says This is a WOMAN’S BODY and if SHE can live with herself and her God and decides to have one, that’s HER decision.
    The other part that lurks in me is how GOD is such a part of giving life and can’t be happy about killing babies at ANY point after conception. ANY.
    I’m wearying of hearing HOW RELIGIOUS HISPANICS ARE when almost the only hispanics I kinow are cleaning women who have had men in their lives but no marrriages…and plenty of kids. If that’s religious, well………..okay!

    Seems to me it’ll take a very long time for the Rumpy-Pumping of Muslims is going to pay off in numbers for them, but who knows, with our idiot American girls so upset about abortion prohibitions that many are opting for sterilization? idiots.

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  10. Baysider says:

    These were my exact thoughts as I read that story. So who wants THAT doctor? Mustang +1 except as noted by Bunk.
    Bp could not be more accurate.

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  11. MAL says:

    Z, the conundrum you state is exactly why we shouldn’t be involved in the first place. It’s easy for us to say what lifetime burden someone else needs to take. In reality, society is already supporting a whole bunch of fatherless, even parentless, children so we don’t need to add more.

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    MAL, I can’t imagine considering children a lifetime burden; they can give the child up for adoption. THere are many homes who would love to take them.
    But, I KNOW….that’s not easy to ask a mother. I suppose the very fact that a pregnant mother loathes the idea of giving up a child is reason enough to know abortion is wrong. Something in her tells her spirit that this is wrong, that that baby is someone to be loved. Let someone else give loving your baby a try…it IS rough to raise a child.

    Funny that nobody EVER tells young women either not to have uncommitted sex or be EXTRA careful while having it. THat’s just not okay anymore, I guess.

    BAYSIDER, I do feel people can change……Not about everything…none of us does! But to walk out on a speaker with the speech not even being on the subject you abhor is so childish …and children to grow up! I don’t care if those students NEVER ‘like’ saving babies…they may (not all, as Mustang and I’ve said) just grow up enough to at least be polite. Sit there. Graduate with your class and enjoy yourself.

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  13. MAL says:

    Z, what I meant is it’s a financial burden, esp. for a teenage high school girl. I certainly don’t like the idea of terminating ANY pregnancy so its not about that. It’s about WHOSE choice it should be.
    No, we loved having all four of our kids, but having them was our choice, not some governmental agency, law, or whatever.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    MAL…and they can give up the child for adoption if it’s too much a financial burden….horribly difficult for some, but NOT ALL, I’m sure.
    It’s murder….some on the Left want abortion till the last minute before birth and, even then, I remember hospitals were allowing newborns to be put aside to die on their own during Obama….
    Of course you loved your four, and you could afford them, even if it might have been tough from time to time….I’m sure VERY few parents are thrilled every time they discover another child’s coming, but they’d not kill it, right!?

    I talked about this at lunch with a friend….she reminded me “it’s a LIFE”…so if it’s a LIFE, isn’t that murder to go in and crush the skull, etc? Because, trust me, I DO get your point…I don’t think a gov’t should really tell a woman what she can do…..but we’d sure tell her if she wanted to kill her sister, right/!! ???

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