Have YOU heard of this?

It’s called HAVANA SYNDROME.   If you haven’t heard about this, our diplomatic corps (and that of some from Canada) in Havana has been hit with horrible symptoms…..odd and loud sounds and vibrations, unusual nerve feelings, head feeling crushed, very severe ear pains, blacking out, loss of vision and balance.    It’s made the news, and some short documentaries over the last few years but it’s not spoken of much.

For the last few years, our FBI/Gov’t has told those affected that they’re just suffering from “mass hysteria”.  The victims say our government has been gas lighting them though American employees come back from Cuba with such horrid symptoms ….nobody’s seemed to care but those families grievously affected.

They had a few young men discussing their illnesses recently;  loyal, caring FBI employees and other employees of our government, all of whom can’t work anymore.  Their children who lived in Cuba, too, have been affected. It’s horrible.  One young man said he can’t work anymore and “I LOVED my job and want to go back.”  It felt awful listening to him….what he’s suffered seems far worse to me than COVID.   No vaccination and no relief for most.

Have any of you heard of this?  Any thoughts?    Could it be called CUBA’S REVENGE?

z

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20 Responses to Have YOU heard of this?

  1. Mustang says:

    Could it be called Cuba’s Revenge? Absolutely. And we could also call it total a fairy tale? The entire article (link provided) is conjecture because no one seems to know. Every one of the possibilities is… well, possible. I can promise you that even if the CIA or other investigative agencies knew what was going on, they would never say … because in order to have expertise in something like radio waves, you have to have done experiments on people to have a theory about them. Does anyone in the U.S. government want to own up to such a thing? Based on our government’s track record, I wouldn’t think so. And not any government. Could China have a satellite that emits UHF waves that make people sick? Sure. Would they use such a weapon? Sure. Would we? Sure. Would we, on our own people? Sadly, yes.

    Just as the government refused to own up to using chemical and biological agents in the First Iraq War, and claimed that Saddam “did it,” when it was our own military’s ineptitude that caused significant medical problems the U.S. government lacked the courage and integrity to own up to. Bastards. The issue was, of course, if the government admitted to what happened, then they would have to offer military veterans military services through the VA. No one in Washington wants to do that. Speaking for myself, it’s impossible to trust a government like that. One wonders how many former and retired military and naval personnel are experiencing issues that the government caused. I can name a few.

    Thanks for the reminder about what the U.S. has morphed into.

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  2. geeez2014 says:

    MUSTANG… It’s not ‘conjecture’ to those who’ve been in the same places and suffered from whatever it is, that’s for sure. I wish it was and they’d all be suffering less and back to work.
    And yes, it’s terrible that our country is far from perfect and hasn’t acted on this and so many other things.
    An example of that is the border. How the heck HARD can it be to work out some acceptable solution to THAT?
    Thanks.

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    Or, vis a vis my post today, how hard is it for any gov’t to give the proper help to these people affected so terribly?

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  4. -FJ says:

    I call it the “US State Department employee Early Retirement Plan” since they don’t have “burn pits” at US embassies.

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  5. MAL says:

    Mustang, when you said “Would they use such a weapon? Would we?” I immediately thought “they already have”. What do you call a virus that was intentionally developed in a lab?

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  6. MAL says:

    As to your original question, Z, I hadn’t heard of this but believe anything is possible today, sadly even us. I wouldn’t put it past anyone doing these type things.

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  7. Baysider says:

    Yes, heard of this, and it’s not just from posts in Cuba – as the Wiki entry notes. But that was the first. And it’s not just Americans. Canadians, too. Some of them are in a lawsuit over it and contend their government has enjoined them from sharing some information with their doctors.

    “Hysteria” or undefinable stress seems to be the most common put off. Not a surprise sadly, from countries that can’t find a way to help or even acknowledge their vaccine injured, or many of their veterans. It was only about a year ago the VA officially recognized Agent Orange’s key role in Parkinsons and allowed veterans who served in country or the littoral waters offshore of Vietnam to be eligible for in-home aides that veterans with service related injuries can receive.

    Actually, after years of dickering about whether there was even an “it” or not, last year congress passed a Havana Act to fund treatment and compensation. But it’s yet to decide what basket of symptoms to include on the list.

    A government that has DARPA, funded Willy Burgdorfer’s ‘Lyme’ research for the NIH (as a bioweapon – surprise, it got loose), and runs the HAARP program for Pete’s sake cannot be as mystified about this as is publicly claimed. As Mustang said, they ain’t owning up to it and likely won’t. I wish I had more confidence that ‘some things’ must be kept secret. Theoretically, yes. I’m not for spilling DARPA’s secrets all over the front page of the New York Times. But I think virginal innocence can be safely ruled out.

    According to a recent New York Magazine article a “U.S.-government study concluded that exposure to electromagnetic or acoustic waves might have harmed some Americans because their specific symptoms — pain and pressure on one side of the head, vertigo, and loss of balance — couldn’t be medically explained. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which commissioned the study, wouldn’t say how many people fit into that category or where they had worked.” As they dug into it, the pool of affected people quintupled.

    Psychology Today also had a good article this year.

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  8. geeez2014 says:

    FJ….amazing you’d think they’re faking…I’m not naive, that probably happens, but these people aren’t, and their small children certainly aren’t.

    MAL, thanks…it’s pretty awful.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER, yes, it’s no coincidence that all those affected were affected in certain places…..
    The Psych Today article’s probably pretty believable and I do hope they are helping as we hear they are…. They were on 60 Minutes very recently and some had not been treated. Or even acknowledged.
    I don’t believe Mustang has enough information to be as definitive as you two seem to feel about it.
    I just pity those afflicted so much; have heard about it for some years, and am hoping those not helped finally do get what they need.

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  10. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER, by the way…as far as “Some things must be kept secret” I have always stood by that and feel we’re less safe because so much is being revealed lately….enemies hear what we hear……..but I think we’d ALL feel better about secrets being kept secret when the administration puts America first, and that’s not the impression some of us get anymore, sadly.

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  11. Mustang says:

    Thank you for the link, Baysider.

    From Dr. Gilbert’s key points:
    • A recent University of Texas symposium on Havana Syndrome involving a multidisciplinary panel clarified what makes Havana Syndrome so unique.
    • Among the more than 250 individuals complaining of possible Havana Syndrome, 24 of them experienced a combination of symptoms never seen before.
    • The most probable cause of Havana Syndrome (also called Anomalous Health Incidents) appears to be directed radio frequency, the panel suggested.

    As Z pointed out, I have not heard of the “illness” before now … but I think I did say that (a) I would not be surprised if a government (ours or someone else’s) is behind such a thing — but (b) since we know absolutely nothing for certain about it, I will maintain that my use of the word “conjecture” is the correct one. And, quite frankly, the more I think about it, with symposia and medical panels scratching their heads, and personnel being affected having worked at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, makes somebody’s government likely the guilty party. And, given the number of American employees (civilian and military) working at foreign locations throughout the world (I can’t estimate the number, but it’s in the thousands), then … Dr. Gilbert is wrong to suggest that Marc’s case is not unique. It is unique IF there are only 250 cases of mysterious illness out of a population of thousands.

    Also, as I suggested, I wouldn’t hold my breath in assuming that the government will own up to this … a trend now long established since the U.S. government denied military personnel medical care and compensation after sending them to Hiroshima a mere couple of weeks after the atomic explosion to “measure radiation,” all of whom (I believe) have died horrible deaths.

    So, no, I don’t trust our government because they are untrustworthy. If it was the Russians, or Cubans, focusing high-frequency waves to intentionally make our employees ill, our government wouldn’t acknowledge it because our government doesn’t want any other government to know what we know. Ergo, I do pity those affected as well, but urge them not to expect goodness and mercy from anyone in the government. They won’t get any help from the home front.

    What would an honest government look like in this instance? If our side had pretty good proof that the U.S. Embassy in Moscow was the target of such activity (for example), the President should cut off all diplomatic relations with the Russians, close the embassy, and expel the Russians from U.S. soil.

    Thanks again, Baysider.

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  12. Baysider says:

    Agree. It’s the kind of secrets they keep. Who trusts this lot? Blabbing all over about when and where each incident happened would be like handing your enemies signals and confirmational intelligence. We have lost so much TRUST, that now when they say “trust us” we roll our eyes.

    I was being quite literal, though, in saying those who run DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), of which HAARP is a partial baby, can’t be without some knowledge of technology of this nature. HAARP, after all, is a massive electromagnetic capabilities study and experiment that’s been going on for 30 years. I believe it is to its ostensible purposes of “radio science research” what the Glomar Explorer was to magnesium balls (they were really after the K-129, and I would never have wanted the CIA to say so). At full power it could send VLF and ELF waves with sufficient energy to affect large groups of people.

    Affect how?

    We know the nature of the government’s interest in “how” from the Scientific Board of the Air Force’s documents published in 1988, outlining interest in these capabilities 5 years before HAARP opened:
    “One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions [and thus behavior], produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set.”

    Does it do all that? A quarter of that? I don’t know. A HAARP program manager was willing to say on the record that “the HAARP system creates a huge coherent controllable electromagnetic field which … potentially fills a region the size of a large western state and possibly, a hemisphere. Tuned to the right frequency, using just the right wave forms, mental disruption throughout a region could occur intentionally or as a side effect of the transmissions.”

    By our own government’s words Havana Syndrome symptoms are the nature of the kinds of manipulations we are interested in. (I’d be foolish to think no one else is.) The fact that now we have credible case studies of someone’s efforts to create such symptoms lends support to Mustang’s contention that “in order to have expertise in something like radio waves, you have to have done experiments.” Somebody has been doing them.

    What to do with the victims? I am very distressed to see us fall back to “nothing to see here folks.” I too hope these people get the kind of relief/compensation that makes their futures more livable. I suspect they do not want this getting into the courts with discovery, etc. It’s more like they need under the table relief. But people also need to feel heard, to be validated, and to be publicly acknowledged as not crazy. It will be interesting to see how the cover story goes. They can’t compensate them ALL like Mary Jo Kopechne’s family.

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    Thanks for the input…I think it’s very important we know about this, I do believe there’s something untoward that has happened and I also believe we all should be a lot happier were our gov’t actually deeply looking into it. If it happens on a small scale, there’s nothing that should stop it from happening on a very large scale. To us?

    I first heard about it a few years back and I was glad it was back in the spot light if only on , I think it was 60 Minutes.

    I see no reason to believe it’s AMericans who’ve caused this…or Canadians…….

    Losing TRUST is an awful thing…..probably THE most damaging thing to our country. Without trust, elections are doubted, the nature of illnesses aren’t believed when true understanding can be a matter of life and death, suddenly a whole founding history is denigrated, only the news individuals want to believe is believed, ..etc etc…and worse, America becomes the kind of country the Left has encouraged; “just another country”, not what all of us felt it was not too many years ago.

    Our loss of trust plays beautifully into the hands of the left….. They will take over and tell us what to trust.
    And, of course, I see no way out of this.

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  14. Baysider says:

    God is bigger than anything man can dream of. I just watched a 30 minute video on the exploration of Pluto over at Bunks. Yup – He’s definitely bigger.

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  15. geeez2014 says:

    Baysider…..If you’re suddenly reminding us that God is in control, you’re right………is NEVER EVER far from my thoughts, my soul, my heart. thanks…I can’t watch a 30 minute video right now but will try soon.

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  16. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER…sorry, I only meant “suddenly’ as it was kind of a sequitur in the thread of comments….that’s all by “suddenly!” 🙂

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    NON sequitur!

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  18. myfoxmystere says:

    The government has been doing this for more than 100 years. They didn’t tell what they did to the Chinese, Japanese, Natives and African Slaves either until they got shoved into a corner to the point they couldn’t hide and escape.

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  19. geeez2014 says:

    Yes, every government’s been lousy to migrants in some way or another……..

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  20. -FJ says:

    I’m not saying that the “victims” are faking anything, Z. I’m saying that they’re faking the “cause” of their illnesses in a ploy to obtain special health benefits. It’s another “Cry Russia” from greedy Deep Staters. For all we know, someone misaligned a microwave tower.

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