The Craziest Question EVER here?

WHY DOES THE LEFT HATE AMERICA SO MUCH AND, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WHY DO THEY WANT TO DESTROY IT?   AND WHAT DO THEY THINK THEY’LL HAVE LEFT?

 

 

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22 Responses to The Craziest Question EVER here?

  1. bocopro says:

    It’s self-righteous complacency, or supercilious pretentiousness . . . take your pick.

    Leftistes have come to see themselves as the elite, the cognoscenti, the illuminati when in reality most are essentially spoiled brats who fail to see the distinction between governing and ruling.

    Their mantra is “my way or the hi-way,” based on a professed love for diversity, free exchange of ideas, and human dignity. But when diversity becomes reality, as in Martha’s Vineyard, their chant reverts to the uber-racist “NIMBY!” as they expel the brown invaders back into the neighborhoods where they rightfully belong, with bible-totin, pickup-drivin, gun-carryin rednecks.

    They say they’re all for multiculture, for fresh approaches, for “progressive” solutions to modern problems, but then are flabbergasted when they encounter the possibility of ideas and solutions which differ from their own core beliefs.

    In a word, they are hypocrites . . . poseurs . . . self-righteous frauds doing their very best to impersonate Richard Cory and impose the “Nero Decree” as they prepare to fire that bullet.

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  2. JG says:

    The Left is run by Elites, but at lower levels they are common people being taught to hate one side against another. At a certain point when costs are too high these people will learn the Elites and the Left are not doing anything for them and turn against them. This happened in Venezuela and Cuba, but the only thing that saved the Elites in these place is that they controlled the weapons and the military.

    In the USA the weapons are still people controlled. The military is being forced to become “woke” but it is losing people especially from traditionally common areas that provide to the military. This will continue big time and will make the USA open to attack. The police forces in the US are losing people as the criminals are not being held for bail and prosecuted. At a certain point there will be breakdowns in the cities and counties that do this as people reach their “end” and the politicians will go one way or another.

    The worry is that the government is running programs that spy on Domestic Americans and are involved in there lives even when there is no legal reason to be yet they are not following the Constitution at all levels. We have seen elections stolen in 2020 and now in 2022. This is leading to massive wake up on our elections as we need to fix them now. Both Parties are corrupt and none can be trusted.

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  3. Silverfiddle says:

    The question could be framed better. “The left” is no more monolithic than “the right.” The Right includes fringe extremists who are violent, hate-filled bigots. I am sure nobody here wants anything to do with that.

    Your standard middle of the road Democrat, for example, loves this country, but has a slightly different vision than the middle of the road Republican.

    Having said that, there are extremists on the left who hate our foundational values and cannot let go of the egregious wrongs done in the past. They don’t just want those wrongs corrected. Indeed, we have made great progress, but they will not acknowledge that.

    These leftwing cultural vandals play the insidious game of comparing us to a gold-standard of perfection that is unachievable on this earth. They want to smash this patriarchal, cis-gendered society founded up on a belief in a creator and create what would be some kind of hell on earth. For what purpose? I don’t know. Probably because they have trapped themselves in pathetic, shriveled little lives, they are filled with rage and frustration, and just want to smash things.

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  4. Mustang says:

    What do you mean by hate?

    How do you define leftist?

    I want to understand your question, but more than that, I want to understand your sudden lack of optimism after only two days following Thanksgiving.

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  5. Elizabeth says:

    @Mustang Hi there. I do not understand what you mean by Z’s sudden lack of optimism only two days after Thanksgiving? I myself find it very hard to believe in our government and nation as a whole now being for the people by the people. Have you read the news and witnessed the left slant to everything and how they are hell-bent on destroying our Constitution in particular the 1st and 2nd Amendments? Did you not notice this sick generation of people that have the gall to believe they know better than our founding fathers? Do they hate America, yes, because they hate God, morality, and accountability? Honestly, neither party represents us well and if we stop depending on God and look to the government we are doomed. There is no nation that can stand without a moral footing and America has lost hers. Do I have hope for the future of America? Not anymore considering elections again were lost and or stolen. A nation without God goes to hell and where is the US now – in hell.

    Sorry if I offended you or anyone here but that is how I feel. I have no hope left for this nation but I have hope our Lord Jesus will rapture us because this life will pass away and so is/will the USA.

    Bye Bye Miss American PIE!

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  6. peter3nj says:

    @Elizabeth
    I’m assuming some or perhaps even many writers here have little left but to wax sardonic. Taking the left to task for the destruction of the nation is no longer incremental but rather, in your face and daring those who aren’t on their oncoming train at the end of the tunnel to either get on or get run over. Some choice. I cringe at the prospect of leaving behind my children and grandchildren knowing they and their generation will be consumed by the fire. Pessimism, the gift that keeps on giving.

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  7. Mustang says:

    Hi Miss E.

    Z has always been one of the most positive people I know, so I suppose I was surprised by the question — which seems to presume that anyone to her left is a hater. That seems a bit extreme to me. I don’t think she thinks the left all hate America any more than she imagines all blacks are thugs or that every Hispanic belongs to a drug cartel. That’s not the Z I’ve known for twenty years.

    We can agree that some elements of our society are “sick.” I disagree that all of society is sick. I also do not think that everyone on the left is a communist — any more than I think that everyone on the right is a fascist. We live in a very complex society, so as a skeptic, I try to avoid over-simplification in solving complex problems.

    We may agree that our government has taken a turn toward totalitarianism, but I have to say that the government’s tendency to ignore our Constitution and Bill of Rights has been going on now since around 1790. Now, realizing this — what do we do? We keep voting for the same kind of losers to sit as members of Congress or in the White House or various cabinet posts.

    Is the news media tainted left? Sure. But here’s something I also believe: the purpose of the press is no longer about keeping us informed. No, it’s about keeping us all stirred up, if not about one thing, then another. This slanted information overload causes people to “drop out” of participating, which is what totalitarian regimes do. The question then becomes, “Do we let them get away with it?”

    I am a skeptic. I believe certain things but accept that not everyone thinks as I do. I’m okay with this because I value democracy. As a skeptic, I believe I am obligated to listen to other points of view but not obligated to agree with anyone. Without different points of view, or arguments (some of which become heated) (and extreme), there can be no democracy. If you take away democracy, you’re left with “1984”. Totalitarian people condemn themselves. We need not agree with anyone else, nor should we condemn them unfairly or out of hand.

    Do I think that the U.S. government has become totalitarian? Yes, I do. I also realize that I have very little control over that. I am only one person in a nation of 338 million. What I think doesn’t matter; I don’t matter. But I’m not going to let that reality push me toward the dark side. I know some people would like to use the government to force us into believing as they do (or keeping quiet) … and I think that people like this exist on both the left and right. I simply do not believe that MOST Americans want the government to control them.

    Neither do I believe that the political left is any more wicked than the political right. Most people who love America resent totalitarianism — and I think such people exist on both the left and right. Or, if you prefer, the center-left and center-right. Name-calling seems counterproductive to me — particularly when we begin lumping everyone together (which is also something we’ve been doing since the founding days).

    I think it is wise to avoid combining politics and religion. The story of Jesus Christ is the GREATEST story ever told. No political story can even touch it. So, I would not want to pollute that story with politics. Yes, I think some people live on the dark side, but I don’t think that involves most people or that wickedness has taken over the world. We still have a lot of love in the world.

    As for religion, I know what I believe, and — I know why. I’m happy for people to find their own way to salvation. Happiness is having God in your life, and hell is the absence of God in your life. Either way, I’m okay with everyone deciding where and how they want to live. I don’t lose sleep at night worrying about whether my neighbor will make it into Heaven, and I don’t care who he votes for. We have free choice in this country. I like to remember that not all “non-believers” are wicked, not all Democrats are evil, and not all Republicans are saints.

    Just my two cents. You probably owe me some change. 🙂

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  8. Baysider says:

    Nihilists who want perfection and utterly lack the understanding this state is impossible to achieve. So blind they cannot recognize when they ARE in the closest state possible on earth. Kissing cousins to Marxists who chime in with Marx’s favorite quote from Faust: “everything that exists deserves to perish.”

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  9. Baysider says:

    Yes, they HATE America. And often set up straw men to make their point – as in this example. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2022/11/24/joy-reids-take-on-thanksgiving-one-of-her-most-ignorant-yet-n2616369
    And she, one of the queens of Fear Porn in the last 32 months!

    My response to her and her ilk?
    https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/friday-funnies-as-the-world-burns

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  10. Baysider says:

    Sorry, missed the link to get the single picture I wanted. Here it is:

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  11. peter3nj says:

    On the other hand, life is stupid so keep laughing.

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    No reason to respond to all of this…but a bit;

    BOCOPRO…I agree. You describe the Left well and answer my question with alacrity and depth. thanks.

    JG, thank you. ONE of the ways the Left is destroying us is having encouraged leftwing partisanship in the CIA, FBI, etc….one of the most dangerous things we’ve faced in America…GOod comment.

    SILVERFIDDLE…not sure how much better my question could have been phrased..it’s what I’m asking, exactly. You said ” there are extremists on the left who hate our foundational values”
    I’d say hating foundational values are a bigger threat than 1/6 was…..I don’t believe the protesters hated our foundational values, I believe they hated and acted out on what they thought was unfair control through fraudulent voting….Your thoughts?

    And, i’m SO TIRED of the Far Right extremists being called out (like for 1/6, etc.) when the Left’s ‘summer of love’, barely EVER gets a mention……..when probably billions of dollars of property was destroyed, people killed….and barely a person in jail for it. THAT’s extreme to me.
    When an abortion clinic is bombed it’s “FAR RIGHT EXTREMIST NUTS” …when a PRO LIFE office gets bombed we’re never quite sure WHO did it, are we.. At least the media plays dumb. I’ve seen it countless times.

    You very wisely add that “These leftwing cultural vandals play the insidious game of comparing us to a gold-standard of perfection that is unachievable on this earth”

    As I’ve said here for years; fall off the swings on the school yard? SWINGS COME DOWN!! Etc etc etc etc etc….if it’s not PERFECT, it has to be GONE! Swings are weapons now! I use that as a pretty good example of my point…and why I believe you’re 100% correct……there IS no perfection on this earth and until the Left learns that, we’re doomed…I really do think that.

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  13. Elizabeth says:

    @Mustang Hi! I am sorry I had to laugh. You telling me not to mix politics and religion is reminiscent of comments at the defunct Politics Rewritten. I am sorry sir you cannot separate the two, that is politics and religion. The letter was drafted and sent to separate politics and religion as you know I have no doubt by Thomas Jefferson and sent to the Church of England. Since that time people have used this as an excuse to separate the church and politics in the US. Yet our nation is founded upon Judeo-Christian ethics and so is our Constitution I find it repugnant when people dismiss the truth and say differently. If I choose to speak on politics and religion please do not ask me not to as this is what I believe. I did not tell you what to say or ask you to speak for Z. So please, respect me and my views as I do respect yours though may disagree from time to time.

    @Peter Yes, pessimism abounds and I too hate to leave this world, our nation to our children. The sad thing is if you are a Boomer as I was we loathed the “establishment” and now the same Boomers have ruined this nation into the ground and people like Mitch McConnell are in bed with China just like Biden. My views are not that all Americans are not to be trusted but I doubt any politician, even the best one out there to be had cannot be trusted. Not anymore. Like my dad taught me it is a dog-eat-dog world out there and you have to watch your back.

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  14. geeez2014 says:

    ELIZABETH…thanks. I agree with you……..thanks very much for your comment!

    MUSTANG: I think we all know what ‘hate’ means…. Not sure I have a special meaning for it.
    Dictionary VERB “feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone)

    And I define leftists as those not on the Right…As the online dictionary knows …”a person with left-wing political views”

    YOu say “I want to understand your question?” Those definitions help.

    “I want to understand your sudden lack of optimism after only two days following Thanksgiving.” I don’t see how those questions I asked in my post are any different than when I’ve posed the same sentiment from time to time here……but if you feel it reads a lack of optimism, you might not be too far off, sadly.

    I must admit that, lately, I am seeing things I don’t see can be ‘healed’…and they’re major things………..we’ll talk about this some day soon. And, of course, my ‘overview’ of the Midterm/state elections is not an optimistic one: ” So, things are CRAP here in America now thanks mostly to Biden and leftwing DAs and Governors…high prices, open borders, covid coming back, Fentanyl killing people, energy dependence again, enemies testing missiles again, etc etc….yes, things are SUCH CRAP we ought to vote for them AGAIN!”

    You said (to Elizabeth) that you sensed from my post that I presume that anyone to my left is a hater. Amazing.

    As Silverfiddle kindly suggested, I have Democrat friends I don’t believe hate America….BUT BUT BUT:

    TO ALL WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SENTIMENT IN MY POST:

    WHEN YOU TAKE US TO ENERGY DEPENDENCE AGAIN AND SEE THE HUUUUGE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT…WHEN YOU LET CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL FOR PRETTY BAD CRIMES WITHIN HOURS WITH NO BAIL (OR, INDEED, HAVE A VP WHO RELEASES PEOPLE WITHOUT BAIL) OR HAVE AN OPEN BORDER AND SAY IT’S NOT, AND WHEN YOU HAVE AN FBI WHICH COVERS FOR CRIMINALITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT ONE PART, ETC ETC., I’M THINKING I WASN’T FAR OFF IN SUGGESTING THE LEFT HATES aMERICA THESE DAYS.

    Democrat friends of mine might say “I don’t like those open borders, I know MY Democrat candidate whom I’m voting for doesn’t either……….so I’m no extremist, I love America”…..then my comment usually is “YOU might not like open borders, but no matter what you think of your candidate in Congress, he’s supporting his party and they ARE for open borders….so think about your vote.”

    SADLY, I’M NOT SURE IT’S OBVIOUS TO SOME OF YOU WHO I’VE KNOWN FOR YEARS…..BUT I DO KNOW REPUBLICANS, TOO, ARE THOUGHT TO BE EXTREMISTS………..I’M A PRETTY EVEN HANDED CRITICIZER…

    BUT, JUDGING ON MY CRITERIA (for instance, Trump said to the 1/6 crowd “go up there and be peaceful” not “GO UP THERE AND TEAR CONGRESS DOWN AND MAKE SURE YOU KILL A COP OR TWO WHILE YOU’RE UP THERE”) I DON’T BELIEVE THE RIGHT THESE DAYS IS TEARING OUR COUNTRY DOWN, IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS WHICH WILL BREAK US FINANCIALLY AND BRING TERRORISTS IN, ETC ETC.

    I don’t know a ton of Republicans who have the disdain for and desire to destroy our history, for example, that the Democrats do. Maybe you do. I’m sorry about that.

    PETER…could you rephrase, pleaSe!!?

    BY THE WAY; i’m pretty sure i know no Republicans who didn’t celebrate Thanksgiving because of how we treated the indigenous people. Do you? I know lots of Democrats who didn’t.

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  15. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER…ah yes! Just saw your link. I know people who feel how Reid does! SO not surprised she talks of :

    THE MYTH OF THANKSGIVING.

    THAT is an AMerica hater, folks. THANKS FOR THAT LINK!
    “What a load of CRAP!” is practically what my MD told me HE felt when he met a woman the other night and asked what her family was doing for THanksgiving and she gave the Joy Reid response!!

    THE LEFT IS DESTROYING US…IT’S GOING ‘GREEN’ WITHOUT THE PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE, IT COULD COMPLETELY BLOW OUR ELECTRIC GRID ALL BY ITSELF………….THE LEFT IS ALLOWING MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS IN, MANY OF WHOM ARE KNOWN TERRORISTS FROM YEMEN, IRAN, ETC., …THE LEFT IS DOING THINGS I’VE NEVER SEEN REPUBLICANS DO BUT I AM NO FAN OF MANY, MANY REPUBLICANS, TRUST ME….MC CARTHY BEING ON THE TOP OF THAT LIST, BY THE WAY.

    MY QUESTION WAS EASY; HOW CAN WHAT SO MANY ON THE LEFT SAY AND DO BE SO ANTITHETICAL TO ALL THAT’S AMERICA AND NOT BE CONSIDERED HATE. Dislike, if you like that word better ? 🙂

    Thanks for the input……
    when I first saw the long comments, and type of comments, I wrote in my first comment “No reason to respond to all of this…but a bit;”

    And , the more I read your comments, I knew they deserved my response.

    thanks.

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  16. bunkerville says:

    All I can add is I am sorry to see the blog turn into the chilling days of yesterday.
    Other than that, I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    BUNK “…chilling days of yesterday.” At MY blog? What?

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  18. geeez2014 says:

    AND, I have to add…while it seems sillier by the day, I AM STILL HOPEFUL and believe it’s important!! 🙂 HARD, but important…very.

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  19. Elizabeth says:

    Z wrote:

    “TO ALL WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SENTIMENT IN MY POST:

    WHEN YOU TAKE US TO ENERGY DEPENDENCE AGAIN AND SEE THE HUUUUGE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT…WHEN YOU LET CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL FOR PRETTY BAD CRIMES WITHIN HOURS WITH NO BAIL (OR, INDEED, HAVE A VP WHO RELEASES PEOPLE WITHOUT BAIL) OR HAVE AN OPEN BORDER AND SAY IT’S NOT, AND WHEN YOU HAVE AN FBI WHICH COVERS FOR CRIMINALITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT ONE PART, ETC ETC., I’M THINKING I WASN’T FAR OFF IN SUGGESTING THE LEFT HATES aMERICA THESE DAYS.

    Democrat friends of mine might say “I don’t like those open borders, I know MY Democrat candidate whom I’m voting for doesn’t either……….so I’m no extremist, I love America”…..then my comment usually is “YOU might not like open borders, but no matter what you think of your candidate in Congress, he’s supporting his party and they ARE for open borders….so think about your vote.”

    SADLY, I’M NOT SURE IT’S OBVIOUS TO SOME OF YOU WHO I’VE KNOWN FOR YEARS…..BUT I DO KNOW REPUBLICANS, TOO, ARE THOUGHT TO BE EXTREMISTS………..I’M A PRETTY EVEN HANDED CRITICIZER…”

    Thank you! Perfect Z! BRAVO!

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  20. MAL says:

    HOPEFUL = PEACE AND A GETTING A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP!

    Ergo, I’m hopeful, too! I seldom get less than a good eight hours sleep.
    The alternative is unhealthy. Either way, it won’t change what happens.

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  21. geeez2014 says:

    MAL; I haven’t slept 8 hours in a row, or even separately, since Mr. Z passed away…..Stopped taking Ambien and am on Trazadon now…not sure about it yet 🙂

    Why, Elizabeth! Thanks!!

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  22. Elizabeth says:

    Z, Trazadone is an iffy and strong drug. My son who is Autistic has been titrated off because it has no lasting effects and honestly it did not work for him. I hope you have better results. I know about not getting a good night’s sleep and not getting a straight 8 hours, at least in a row. I am on .25 mg (lowest dose) of Alprazolam (AKA Zanax) in the AM for severe anxiety and panic disorder. I have titrated down from 3 MG daily. I am working to be off and use only PRN. Titrating and the holidays are posing more difficult due to a lot of grief I have surrounding holiday time and family here and passed on. But with God all things are possible and with His help, I will make it through. XX

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