Kids doing badly in school?   Simple solution;  Nix literacy tests for….(drumroll) TEACHERS!



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26 Responses to EDUCATION…down the PC DRAIN

  1. Then why test the kids, either?

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  2. bocopro says:

    My thots on ejjicashun are so voluminous as to require the destruction of a major forest for printing in hardcopy.

    Suffice to say that gummint is invasive and pervasive in far too many facets of our lives.

    What I’d like is for everyone to be familiar with Sophocles and Plato and Blake and Shakespeare and Milton and Hemingway and Faulkner and Byron and world history and US history and Buddha and Jesus and Confucius and Schopenhauer and Spinoza and St. Thomas Aquinas and the Tora and the Talmud and the Mahabharata and the Beatitudes and be able to quote the Constitution and Proverbs and Ecclesiastes and Genesis . . . . . .

    BUT — that said, the mission of institutionalized early ed should be limited to the mastery of readin, writin, and ‘rithmatic along with general science and basic skills on how things work, such as electricity, engines, agriculture, data processing, physical health, and such.

    Taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for 12 years’ worth of snowflake indoc and Marxist propaganda. If the fam wants its progeny to be entitlement junkies who are completely ignorant of the lessons of history and what keeps the wolf away from the door, that’s their job. The educational system’s job is to help kids learn things that will help them earn a paycheck IRL to help them pay for the parasites who refuse to listen to teachers for fear of being seen as “acting white” or refuse to learn English so they can understand what the teachers are saying in the first place.

    I’d really like for everyone to have a decent college education including art and philosophy and all that, but I’d also like for everyone to be free of disease and fear and hunger, but as my grandfather liked to say, get two hats: wish in one and s— in the other and see which fills faster.

    Those who want degrees in fine arts and “Would you like fries with that?” degree-completion plans should be required to pay for them privately, not get them on the taxpayers’ tab. Chemistry, biology, math, physics, electronics, medicine, logistics . . . the things that help design, create, apply, maintain, and repair stuff that’s essential for a dynamic society — THOSE should be subsidized.

    So let it be written; so let it be done.

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  3. bunkerville says:

    We don’t want educated kids anyway..only good drones who follow government dictates and will vote Dem… I thought you knew…. 🙂

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  4. geeez2014 says:


    Ed, why, indeed? WHY BOTHER? Just keep passing them………reading or not. And WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE!?
    Betsy DeVos needs to make a speech on national TV and say “We are in crisis……..this has to STOP. Children who don’t pass THIS TEST we have come up with are going to stay in their grade…End of discussion.”

    Bocopro; I tried to single things out to reprint here in agreement, but I agree with all you said! I love the “Would you like fries with that” Degree. So true 😦
    My own doctor told me the other day that his wife tends a bit more lib than he is, socially…but that both of them grew up in lower than middle class families…yet she is totally against entitlements and believes HARD WORK is what people should be paid for…NOT having illegitimate children.
    So, now he’s one of the best MDs in town (which is saying a LOT here in Santa Monica) and she has started a beer company on her own…which is doing so well that she had dinner last night with the Ambassador IN PARIS for her business!! And they have 3 little girls who are being raised in private church schools so far, and are paying his med school debt but THRIVING. Amen.

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  5. bocopro says:

    You musta read my mornin rant today (containing this paragraph):

    Most socialists, in direct contrast to what Jefferson envisioned, don’t want well-informed, intelligent people with good critical thinking skills in their populace. What they want is people just smart enough to be trained to do simple jobs and dumb enough to keep voting career politicians into office, exactly the opposite of what Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, et al. warned against.

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  6. geeez2014 says:

    Please pray for the family of the female student shot in Maryland Tuesday…she’d been hospitalized but she didn’t survive after all……..Her family’s lives are changed forever.

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  7. geeez2014 says:


    “We are tired in this administration of hearing stories of kids being graduated who can’t read. Do you parents realize this is happening in AMERICA? This will stop. We will do whatever we can to stop this because it is a national security question; we need informed voters, smart people who want to propel America back to greatness. We don’t believe every student needs to go to college but every American deserves to be able to read and do at least simple math and we are going to fight for it starting now. What we do believe is all Americans must learn something by which they can support themselves and families as they marry, have kids, etc. They deserve this, not to get entitlements which strip them of their confidence. Stay tuned……..if your child is 17 and can’t read,he will not be graduating.”

    !! I WISH!


  8. Mal says:

    And just why does this surprise anyone? This kind of thinking sounds more like California though, doesn’t it? I mean, sanctuary cities, illegals being elected to government, etc., so why not this?
    It looks like this type of thinking is contagious ’cause its catching on nationwide.


  9. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, sorry….this is in New York, possibly the only state with a public school named for an avowed and admired Socialist, Norman Thomas.
    Am thrilled at the cities in California disavowing the sanctuary trend and saying they won’t obey Gov Brown.


  10. Kid says:

    I thought this was already happening for teachers.

    Well, I think the only way to get public schools healthy again is replace them with charter schools or let’s just say schools run locally without unionized teachers who will be required to perform and leave their liberal views at home if they have them. Then let the public schools wither and die for communities with motivated parents willing to get involved. I think that is what DeVos is up to for the most part.

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  11. Jersey Jack says:

    Tell me someone…where in the constitution does it say we provided public / federal schools? Where? I can’t find it. What we need to do is abolish the Department of Education and leave it to the states. Especially the states that hate this bilge, this idiotic rot called common core. I’d say 42 states would immediately put civics and American History back into the curriculum.
    The other offense that kids have to bear is this ESL rot….low iQ illegals sitting in these classes that are dumber than a tortilla. Imagine half or more of your class is made up of those types and the remaining “students” are of single parents….about 75% so far, black criminals in waiting that the schools are forbidden to expel or discipline that 50% or more never graduate in the first place. Sorry…that’s the facts folks. If its racisssss to be realistic and truthful…well then that’s why the schools are holding pens for irresponsible “parents” anyway. Millions of Travon Martins and Michael Browns own the hallways.


  12. Mal says:

    Z, I realize it was New York, and the reason I said it is catching it from Calif. Actually, the big cities on both coasts are of the same mind, aren’t they? Both N.Y. & L.A. have become nut cakes!!


  13. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I think NYC started the real nuttiness, California just took off with it and exasperated the whole thing. Imagine a socialist having a public school named after him? Even we don’t have that here!!
    I don’t know ‘nut cakes’ here but I know they are here. It’s like anywhere else, exaggeration reigns.

    Kid, “Charter schools are elementary or secondary schools in the United States that receive public money but have been freed from some of the rules, regulations, and statutes that apply to other public schools in exchange for some type of accountability for producing certain results, which are set forth in each school’s charter” I agree with you that we need to go to this sample. They’re usually more full of the brighter kids; parents who care work to get their kids into charter schools. All six of them 🙂

    Jersey, it’s nowhere in the constitution. But I do believe that curriculum should have basic American information in it so all our citizens are up on certain things, don’t you?


  14. bocopro says:

    O T —

    Well, it’s over for The Donald. He just threw his base to the curb and scuttled any chance for a second term.

    Not only will Democrats hate him out of knee jerk and RINOs out of spite, but now he’s lost his loyal base, the people who put him behind that desk to drain the swamp and cut the budget.

    Jordan is spot on with this one, as is Rand Paul, both of whom called it rotten and completely opposite what needs to be done in Washington. Schumer and Pelosi are happier than cold hogs in a warm mudhole.

    Funded Planned Parenthood, but not The Wall. Screw DACA . . . I couldn’t care less about that in the larger scheme of things . . . but with the DOW and S & P dropping like lies from Hillary’s mouth, plus failure to get his wall, plus the apparent chaos in his White House staff, it’s beginning to look like the fargin honeymoon is over and despite having both houses of Congress, he can’t get squat done except elect one judge to the SCotUS. DIS-a-freakin-pointing.

    Nobody seems to get it, and if a guy like Trump can’t understand why we MUST cut entitlements and raise eligibility requirements for them, we are friggin doomed, ‘cause the Dems will now pick up speed and virtually eliminate any reliable majorities in either house after this November . . . and maybe even regain control of one or the other — or both.

    The libertarian disguised as a Republican failed us and only Beelzebub knows who’ll grab the brass ring on the DNC merry-go-round a year and a half from now.

    Anybody disagree??? Is he Dead PotUS walkin? Or will he be the Comeback Kid?


  15. geeez2014 says:

    Bocopro…I just told a big fan of Trump’s, on the phone, that he’s lost a lot of his base. Man, considering he only really had ‘base’ rooting for him, that’s not a great move, for sure.
    Again, SADLY, I agree with everything you say…
    This is the ONLY way America can survive : as you said “why we MUST cut entitlements and raise eligibility requirements for them, we are friggin doomed, ‘cause the Dems will now pick up speed and virtually eliminate any reliable majorities in either house after this November . . . and maybe even regain control of one or the other — or both.”
    Of course, I’m just at the age of entitlements, and I’m scared that’ll happen. but I’m also a strong conservative who’ll put America before my finances. I have to honestly tell you I feel awful using Medicare..and yes, yes, I KNOW I paid for it…but ….I don’t like using it, I don’t like the gov’t paying for anything for me, and they ARE.

    I believe he’s a Dead POTUS walking…..and pray HARD he’ll be a Comeback Kid.

    BY THE WAY, why does DACA cost anything at all? WHat MORE are we paying for? What’s DACA really mean, anyway? Instant amnesty? Everybody stays, including great aunt Maria?
    Why’s it have to cost us anything? We’re paying enough for illegals now, already…

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  17. geeez2014 says:

    I’m a bit cheered that the media’s not going HAPPILY NUTS about this bill…but…they will.


  18. Sparky says:

    So many excellent comments. Just one thing I can add for parents ‘out there’: please take the kids out of public schools. They’re not the public schools we (or they) knew when growing up. Home school or put them in private school. In God’s eyes, parents are responsible for their children’s spiritual well-being. Their children will probably never learn about the importance of eternal salvation in a government building. If they don’t learn about Jesus Christ, then the parents will be responsible on the Day of Judgement. It’s a fearful thing to stand before an angry God.

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  19. Mal says:

    The only thing he got and was protecting was $$$$$ for the military. Though that’s important, it wasn’t enough. He should’ve held out for the wall, at least. A promise made is a must achieve.


    That includes buying girl Scout cookies.


  21. Sparky is right of course. Education in this country started out with the purpose of teaching kids God’s way for them. McGuffey Readers, the Bible.
    Benjamin Rush was perhaps the first secretary of education.


  22. kid says:

    ED, Unless we are missing something, the military has been without funding since Jan 2009. So what’s another few months. Veto the bill, shut the gov down. Trump’s base is fuming from what I see in comment sections. ME? My entire voting history is voting against democrats, no emotional issues to deal with here.
    Yea, if Trump is to survive beyond 2018, he may just need a Hail Mary pass touchdown-home run-strike-hole in one-slam dunk, followed by a 6 point conversion.
    The “had to sign this to fund the military” is not going to fly imo.


  23. Baysider says:

    Ed, Bunkerville and Sparky +1.

    You’d be surprised how OLD this problem is. May I share a story? In the 70’s I had a black friend with a youngster in a private, mostly black school, with a good academic reputation. When my friend was in 2nd grade in south Philly her teacher convinced her for life that you must learn the language and speech of the mainstream or your life expectations better be low. She did. Her younger sister did not, and for awhile wasn’t communicating much with her because my friend would mark up her letters with red pencil (YES – RED PENCIL!) and return them to her corrected. She told me “my sister stopped writing.” 🙂

    Now, her own 2nd grader came home with papers that 1) had mistakes marked, 2) had mistakes NOT marked, and 3) had correct items marked as mistakes. This woman was also a 6-foot tall ex-marine. I would not have wanted to be that teacher at the P-T conference she called. And call one she did. Almost 40 years ago an elite K-12 couldn’t get [every] teacher literate. At least they held that as a VALUE. Now? Psshht! They want to run to a safe room if they have to listen to you say “this is important.”

    So to the rejoinder “we won’t have enough black teachers teaching students I say “so?” The place to worry about THAT problem isn’t at the literacy test, but in 2nd grade. All praise to AOW. We need to clone you times 100. But are today’s parents ready for that? 🙂


  24. Baysider says:

    Oh my gosh, then I found THIS, explaining their Plan B:
    “To replace the ALST, the New York State Education Department recommending on modifying one of the three remaining exams, the Educating All Students (EAS) test to “assesses both students’ ability to teach a diverse population and also their literacy skills.”

    Is there not something wrong with that sentence? Shows why we NEED such testing more than ever.


  25. As Chief Executive, can’t Trump slow-walk some of this spending?


  26. Mal says:

    Good thought, AOW. It was bound to happen sooner or later ’cause everyone makes mistakes.


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