Thomas Jefferson

“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”   Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson might have been implying taxes were an injustice and were law……..

TODAY, what would Mr. Jefferson have listed as injustices becoming law?

How dangerous to our society do you think he’d have thought getting rid of his statue in New York was?   I sure think it is.

Talk to me about Mr. Jefferson.

 

XXX Z

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30 Responses to Thomas Jefferson

  1. Mustang says:

    Tom was always saying stuff like that. It eventually got to the point where I wouldn’t go fishing with him anymore. Tom, as you probably know, was one of those insiders who liked to offer advice that was contrary to the well-being of others, but he was never seemed to place himself at risk by following his own advice. You’ll notice, for example, that while he was a delegate to the Continental Congress, from mid-June 1775 to September 1776, we hear no more from Tom until 1779 when he served as governor of Virginia (through 1781), and then not again until 1783, when the Revolutionary War was over.

    So, it doesn’t look to me as if Tom ever placed his neck on the line for anything he “fervently” believed. But I will give him credit for starting the Civil War with his dumb-ass nullification idea … that resulted in a lot of people losing their lives. He never seemed to get around to offering HIS blood to feed the tree of liberty — it was always someone else’s blood.

    As for taxes, he’s the one who spent a gob-smacking amount of money for the Louisiana Purchase, did so without the authority of congress, and thereby subjected everyone to higher taxes without first consulting them.

    So, no, I’m not all that interested in any of Tom’s advice. He was part of the politically elite, didn’t have much advice to offer that he himself was willing to take, and this is where the phrase “don’t do the talk if you won’t do the walk” came from.

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  2. bunkerville says:

    Yea, they are all flawed flawed flawed… what to do… Frankly I am sick of it. The only one perfect that I read about was JC.. Good for him. When I heard they wanted to get rid of old Teddy boy I knew we were done. By the way, Washington rode on that damn white horse… I knew anyway he was a racist.. I hate America… Does that do it for the purging of my soul???? And now the Salvation Army demands I acquit myself of my White privilege before I donate????

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  3. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO…we are certainly living that wisdom, aren’t we…sadly. Jefferson was a prophet.

    MUSTANG: I’ve got to ‘side’ with the many people who see Jefferson as a Father of our Country, being the main author of the Declaration of Independence and a lot of other things.

    I kind of err on the side that the good is so good we don’t want to negate the whole person…. his many quotes might not have won a war or saved lives but they sure make a ton of sense and set examples, got people thinking……. I wouldn’t suggest he didn’t believe in them. He was DEFINITELY a states rights person…nullification having been part of the Civil War challenge.
    Sorry you’re very anti Jefferson; I really thought this quote was interesting and provocative today….he was definitely ahead of his time in thought; so many of our heroes talked more than walked.

    BUNKERVILLE: I’m with you……..I bet $1000 that they’ll either paint the White House or just stop calling it the WHITE House.
    Our history, our great thinkers, all made this country and, I guess when you’re attempting to completely destroy it, you’ve got to knock history down.

    The Salvation Army WHAT??????? THIS, I hadn’t heard.

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  4. geeez2014 says:

    BUNKERVILLE…I had a hunch your Salvation Army line would be explained in your latest post! And VOILA! As I wrote there, again the WOKE crowd is hurting the poor….donations will be down, the poor will have less to buy inexpensively.
    Methodists have been WOKE for more years than other denominations\….so this makes some sense. 😦

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  5. bocopro says:

    “stop calling it the WHITE House.”

    Already did that. Can’t remember if I posted excerpts from it here, but one of my rants from last week referred to it as the “Spite House” since the entire raison d’etre of the Joey Bidet regime is to rescind, reverse, rebut, or renege on all of Trump’s policies and programs.

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  6. geeez2014 says:

    There’s a FRANK whose comments I’m not releasing today…
    He suggests Jefferson didn’t say my quote or Boco’s…………There’s a kind of industry in proving what people didn’t say and I had looked into it before publishing my post…..most people believe he did so I’m not bothering with that.

    Plus, I think who said it is FAR FAR less important than WHAT WAS SAID and I’d stand by both, personally.

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  7. MAL says:

    Mustang, maybe Tom did spend “a gob-smacking amount of money” for the Louisiana Purchase, but it still ended up being a good thing. So was the purchase of Alaska from Russia for only a million bucks. They don’t make more land so obtain while you can!
    Someone told me to get a lot while I was young. They were talking about real estate, right?
    ;o)

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  8. Baysider says:

    Pulling down his statue is symbolic for abandoning the principles of our constitutional republic. To the left it’s the Ancien Regime. They are good principles. Don’t think he’d approve.

    Anything that smacks of lies and the totalitarian impulse would answer your question. Picking one: vaccine mandates. Picking another: resegregation and selection by race after a long and bitter struggle to undo it.

    Bunk: I heard about the Salvation Army from Greg Koukl. Floored. But not in this day and age. I looked into it because it is our GO TO charity for social good. We have given them a lot of money. Been praying about it for weeks now, to make a decision to stay or go, and if I go it will be with a letter of explanation. It showed me my deficit: I must pray for every group I support.

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  9. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER, the scary thing about mandates is some take mandates as wrong, which I also do (by the way) and many take that to mean vaccines aren’t effective….

    I LOVE that you said you must pray for every group you support…of course that’s how it should be! Bravo. and yes, if Salvation Army is really this woke, I sure couldn’t pray for it. I will say that your years of donations to them have not been for naught….we all know how much good they HAVE done…but this is SUCH a step too far!!

    BOCOPRO; I guess I meant more when BLM folks start demanding the White House be called something else…maybe THE PEOPLE’S HOUSE, sounding as COmmie as they possibly can. I wouldn’t put it past Biden to back that.

    TALKING OF BIDEN: DID YOU ALL HEAR ABOUT THE NEW VARIANT COMING OUT OF S. AFRICA…? ALREADY CASES IN EUROPE, TOO. MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES CLOSING AIR TRAVEL FROM THOSE COUNTRIES IN SOUTHERN AFRICA WHICH ARE SEEING THE NEW VARIANT; NOT US.
    FAUCI IS SAYING WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF IT’S WARRANTED.

    I SAY SHUT UP AND STOP FLIGHTS IN……….ACTION, NOT RE ACTION WHICH COULD PROVE DEADLY FOR EVEN ONE PERSON.

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  10. bunkerville says:

    The Salvation Army rang the closing bell on wall street at 1 today. They had a big gig yesterday at the football game. I guess we know their figuring. As I said, they failed to do the math,,

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  11. geeez2014 says:

    bUNK…Yes, I think the Army will be quite surprised! I’m trying to just IMAGINE leftwingers, wokesters, who don’t do as much charity as rightwingers do, happily giving to any group known to have had Christian background! Oops! 🙂

    Let’s not forget, putting money into that pot at the Salvation Army bell ringer is NOT picked up by the press. Republicans give with no expected gratitude………..I’m betting the rich who could make a difference with large sums of generosity like the notice of their charity……..putting money into pots isn’t gratifying for THEM!

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  12. geeez2014 says:

    BUNK: Also, I saw that ringing of the bell and hadn’t heard about this WOKE thing but did wonder how excited their representatives could be ringing a bell with SUCH a huge market loss!!!! Get used to it Salvation Army! 😉

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  13. geeez2014 says:

    By the way, I’m sorry all my posts lately are in CAPS….it’s not meant. Can’t change it, apparently 😦

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  14. Baysider says:

    I put money into pots AND send a check(s). I was a bell ringer one Christmas. 🙂

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  15. The radio station I’m on does a big promotion for the SA. Promoting toy collection centers.
    Live broadcasting from collection sites by hosts.
    The owner said on air Friday, that’s probably a hard no now.

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  16. Jefferson laid his life on the line the moment he submitted the Declaration and affixed his name to it. Not every man is a warrior and some serve better in reserve.
    He served in office during the War, but there was some dissatisfaction with his actions doing that.
    As Baysider alluded to, they are coming after what he stands for.
    A Constitutional Republic.

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  17. MAL says:

    I hadn’t heard anything like that about the S.Army, either. I usually throw in something when I’ve seen them in front of the markets, but now? Not sure. Things keep changing…….

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  18. bocopro says:

    Re the Salvation Army “go woke” crusade — go woke; go broke.

    I’ve already heard from three members of my e-mail chat group that in lieu of donation checks this year they intend to send properly written apologies for being successful enough to be ABLE to contribute.

    Milady & I stopped contributing to large organizations decades ago, but still considered the SA worthy if we had anything extra, which ain’t gonna happen now.

    We tend to family first. I know she gives to the church, and we still like to donate old usable stuff to a run-down little black church in a poor neighborhood, but that’s about it these days. Oh, and I still leave bundles of socks and old hoodies out by the homeless camp in the woods when I can find a deputy sheriff to go with me out there.

    She and my younger daughter are comin back tomorrow from their trip to Jacksonville . . . wonder if I’ll ever learn how much that little adventure cost me — I know they encountered at least 5 of our grandchildren while over there and in Orlando.

    Nah … she’ll never ‘fess up. Bet it was well into 4 figures, tho. Gas, geedunk, and all that will total at LEAST a couple hundred, and I KNOW she stocked up some pantries while in the area. She’s a compulsive nurturer, or food pusher, whichever you prefer.

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  19. MAL says:

    HEY! B.P. I wouldn’t sweat the finances, either. Makin’ M’lady happy means everything, right?

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  20. bocopro says:

    Yeah . . . if the matron d’maison ain’t happy, nobody is.

    Simply put, happy wife — happy life.

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  21. geeez2014 says:

    BAYSIDER….Of course you send checks…. I rarely even see an S.A. bell ringer around here though I have seen one or two.

    ED….I hope they stick by that ‘no’….GOod on them.
    Of course they’re going after what Jefferson stands for! It’s not him as a person….they don’t know much history, anyway/ He had a slave…gotta GO! As they’ve been saying a lot this season “White people contributed nothing”….
    Goes along with the destruction…how stupid can one GET?

    BOCOPRO “Simply put, happy wife — happy life.” I wrote how I DESPISE that phrase, in length, but deleted it here as it sounded like I was yelling at YOU! I’ve always hated that phrase……..
    I just think it’s condescending and makes men sound pathetic. And women sound like such bitches…………….. ok, that’s it 🙂 🙂
    AND you said “…they intend to send properly written apologies for being successful enough to be ABLE to contribute.” I hope that’d be sent only to their liberal relatives!!

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  22. bocopro says:

    Well, the inherent logic of the phrase is inarguable . . . I sure’s hell wouldn’t wanna live with an UNhappy wife.

    I s’pose you’re equally irritated by “The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world” or its corollary “Men reign, but women rule” . . . right?

    More’n likely I inherited the attitude from my grandfather who always referred to my grandmother as “The Boss.”

    On their 50th anniversary, the local fishwrapper interviewed them for a column. Naturally the question of “To what do you attribute your long and successful relationship with your wife?” came up.

    His answer was, “Well, when we first agreed to share our lives, we discussed who would make decisions over what. Our arrangement was that she would make all the ordinary, routine, household decisions and I would handle the really important issues.”

    The reporter asked if any disagreements or disputes over what was or wasn’t ‘important’ had ever come up.”

    My grandfather said, “Not really . . . you see, we were lucky — there never were any important issues for me to decide.”

    Oh yeah? They were raising kids during WWI and the Great Depression, so of COURSE there were crucial issues. But they got through it all as equals, I guess, ‘cuz it all worked out and they’d perfected their routine by the time I came along for ’em to raise after my biofather pulled a major stupid and Mother dropped the nickel on him and put him in state prison.

    They had distilled a lifetime of household and child-raising experience into a simple system and wisdom into a series of homilies and aphorisms, many of which still ring in my ears today.

    Mom would focus on Jesus, chores, school, and cleaning my plate. Dad spoke in Aesop-like little allegories which usually had multiple layers, some of which didn’t clarify in my mind until I had chilluns of my own.

    In other words, I was one lucky kid to be in that environment at that particular time.

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  23. “White people contributed nothing”
    I heard a guy say on a podcast (Charlie Kirk?) that white people brought the Bible.
    The Bible brought abolition.

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  24. MAL says:

    BP, it sounds like your grandfather had the same arrangements I have with my wife. I make all the important decisions, like things pertaining to our government, wether or not a certain candidate should run, if the prime rate should be changed, etc. You know. The IMPORTANT things, while she only decides where we live, what we eat, if we should buy a different car or furniture.

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  25. geeez2014 says:

    BOCOPRO….I just never liked to think my husband had to make me happy just to BE happy….I find that sad about any couple. But , of course, I understand the sentiment……..honestly, my husband when happy was a lot more fun than when he wasn’t, which was rare, but… 🙂
    I love hearing about your family…good stuff, and so well written. Thanks.

    ED…true true true…Amen And, of course, who prohibited other races NOT to read and benefit from the Bible!? NOBODY. ALL welcome…………….gee, how terribly oppressive,huh? (sarc.)

    MAL…Joni got to decide if you needed a new car?!

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  26. kidme37 says:

    When stuff like this comes up (Jefferson or anyone back when), all I can think of is how the government is abusing the population beyond description, Light years beyond how the founders were abused. Maybe I’m wrong.

    And Z, as you alluded to you see images of various people with some witty or truth words and you don’t know whether that person actually said it not. And as you say, doesn’t really matter, but we’ll disagree on why it doesn’t matter. To me it doesn’t matter because the people those words are aimed at will never read them or understand them if they did. Only an echo chamber without meaning at this point.

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  27. MAL says:

    Well…..not really, Z. With the last car, an ’05 Dodge Magnum, we had it for 13 1/2 years (VERY rare for me!) several times she mentioned the inside was getting a bit worn, so I jumped on that and bought the Caddy. Normally, no. She doesn’t. I was just havin’ fun with Ron.

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  28. geeez2014 says:

    KID…right…and I published the quote to show how even back then some got the WOKE thing 🙂 And warned about it!!
    Only conservatives read my blog, anyway, other than the many who apparently read and don’t comment, according to my dashboard… I guess I have to admit SOME lefties do because I get a comment now and again, a REALLY hateful one, and I don’t ‘approve’ and publish it….it’s why I changed from Blogger to WP, so I could block them……
    Oddly, when I did allow libs and had upwards of 800 comments a day at times, i begged them to be less nasty, etc., for a very long time and the minute I changed to WP and they couldn’t comment, something I’d tried to avoid, they said I was censoring them 🙂 “No, just give your opinions like a thinking adult, stop the hate toward my readers and me, and let’s discuss the post”…..they couldn’t

    Mal, I had a feeling 🙂

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  29. kidme37 says:

    Asking a leftie to act like an adult is like asking a barbarian to act like a civilized person. Impossible.

    I’m not just talking about your blog with the echo chamber, I’m talking about the whole country. The left doesn’t listen, read, or have any interest in what doesn’t match their faulty opinions. They can not be educated. Forget about lefties somehow ‘seeing the light’. Never happen. If some young person sees the light, then they were never a leftie in the first place.

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