Scrubbing Important Information

I almost never watch Hannity anymore;  I can’t take him.  But, last night, I saw a few minutes of an astonishing interview with a former CIA guy named Philip Haney, who worked for years amassing information on people the CIA suspected of being Islamic radicals….they’d amassed EIGHT HUNDRED NAMES.

When Obama came into the presidency, all the names were deleted….’scrubbed,’ as he called it.  GONE.   I just found THIS ARTICLE of February.  And nobody’s talked about this on the news all this time?  Even I’m stunned.

Eight hundred names SCRUBBED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION….years of work going toward our safety GONE.

WHY?

Z

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64 Responses to Scrubbing Important Information

  1. Z,
    I have linked to this in my blog post today.

  2. fredd says:

    Remember, Obama doesn’t want to make the Arab street mad by snooping on them; they just might start killing us.

  3. He didn’t want to take the chance that some of his liaisons might be exposed.

  4. Sparky says:

    Why? Because the devil is amassing his army of the damned. [Just my opinion] Last days? I don’t know, but it’s certainly the last days of our country.

  5. John M. Berger says:

    Yeah, this is but one thing that Trump should have emphasized in his Monday speech. I’m afraid that the average American is still oblivious to such. Bocorpo , GREAT POSTER!

  6. bunkerville says:

    Because the FBI is involved in creating over half of those involved since 2001. The FBI has become one more arm of this regime. In shameless promotion I did a post today asking whether the Terrorist was an FBI informer or at the least were playing with his head.

  7. Kid says:

    I’m actually not surprised. I’ve regarded him as an active enemy of the USA for some time now, and that he is helping the moslems with their worldwide caliphate. Little difference between him and osama.

  8. Alec says:

    In light of what Bunkerville, Kid and others are saying, how can we be sure that any of these events are what they seem to be?

    We do know:

    * Innocent people were brutally murdered.
    * It was done by someone identified as a Muslim.
    * The event happened at a gay bar

    How it’s being “spun”:

    1. (Internationally especially) America needs real gun control laws
    2. (domestically) Religious fundamentalists murder gays

    Both of the spun responses are accepted as “self-evident truths” by more of your fellow Americans than you would believe. The younger you go, the more believe them. If you doubt this, ask your 20-something nieces and nephews.

    Alec

  9. bocopro says:

    Can’t remember who said it, but back when he first ran, somebody called him the Islamo-Manchurian Candidate.

    My rant on it back then was that I was fairly certain Bill Ayers had written his two books, his actual father was Frank Davis, he was still named Soetoro, he was a Muslim in taqiyya, he was raised considerably beyond the physical and cultural boundaries of mainstream America, and he was a Marxist funded by Soros . . . among other things.

    It’s not that he’s stupid, or uneducated, or even treasonous — merely that he knows so much that’s simply misguided unAmerican propaganda.

  10. geeez2014 says:

    I just got an email listing approximately 111 mosques in Florida alone…..does anybody know if that’s REAL? Of course, there are little or no new churches or synagogues being built there, right?

    Bocopro…many of us realized Ayers had written at least 2 of the Obama books. By the way, what 48 yr old do YOU know who has done virtually nothing in his life and gets published for an autobiography? (none) Great poster!

    Alec, you’re preaching to the choir here! And yes, the younger, the more purposefully uninformed about our country and the more love Bernie and Hillary for their freebies….and for their naive natures toward threats to this country. What a rude awakening our children have for them.

    Kid, I’m less surprised Obama’d do this than I am more people didn’t speak up. We’re so based on GREED, protecting OUR SALARY, that many will just keep on keepin’ on, even knowing their families will be jeopardized….can’t lose that job, mustn’t alert the public to GREAT dangers, right? Sickening.

    John, Oh YES!!! Trump should have mentioned this AND he should have mentioned the 111 mosques all over Florida, too…that might wake them up. I got a list of those mosques sent to me by email last night…that’s a LOT OF MOSQUES. Seen any new churches or synagogues built lately? (no)\

    fredd…good one!

    ALL of you…thanks for the comments..excellent.
    AOW, thanks for the link.
    Bunk…I’ll be over today! Thanks.

  11. Kid says:

    Z, I suspect there was the threat of jail time for exposing such info. Probably even backed by a signed contract of non-disclosure. Snowden is in Russia afterall.

  12. Imp says:

    The IRS…scrubs or “loses” information…the most damning and damaging. So does the NSA scrub information….and from the FOIA….and the FBI…and the CIA…and of course…Hillary must have assumed it was OK too. Our government clearly fears us or has enormous contempt for us.

  13. Imp says:

    Britain is now officially doomed….

    London Mayor Plans Negative Body Image Advert Ban on Tube, Buses and Trains

  14. geeez2014 says:

    Now the FBI is calling Orlando ” a hate crime AND act of terror”…what the..?? Got to cover all their bases? It made me giggle, isn’t that awful!?

    BY THE WAY:
    Hillary Clinton has gone SOPHISTICATED…have you noticed? I SWEAR her handlers have told her TONE IT DOWN, and even I think it’s very effective, particularly juxtaposed to Trump shooting off his mouth.
    Oh, yes..Hillary, who was usually all ‘too big’ smiles at anything funny and grimaces when things got somber, is now POKER FACED..always….watch for it, it’s quite a change and fascinating. It’s clear they’re trying to make Trump look even MORE unhinged….which isn’t easy.
    She nods her head in agreement with the sycophantic audiences applauding her, she shakes her head in sadness after they scream with delight after she insults all Conservatives… she’s REALLY changed.
    Trump could use some of that. Because the contrast is anything but attractive.

  15. Mal says:

    Kid, I’ve felt this way about O even before he got elected due to his original statement “Ive known Islam on 3 continents.” That says it all, doesn’t it? For the sake of image he proclaims to be a Christian but do you ever see them attend church, like any of our other Presidents? Only in the beginning, when Rev. Wright gave his “sermon” ..”Not God Bless America. God Damn America.”
    Then Obama, who previously had said he attended the church for 10 years, suddenly quit going there. No…….he is and always has been a Muslim, and hates America. Why so many Americans can’t see this is beyond me!

  16. Kid says:

    Mal, I knew about the muslim and the anti-America and anti-Christian right away but didn’t realize just how bad it was for a couple more years. And he is still lowering the bar. Stunning and Stunning that so many people have no idea.

  17. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, there were articles for about 2 weeks after Obama’s first inauguration about what church they’d attend. They were ‘looking’…..the only churches they go to now are what the media always calls “historically Black churches”….and when called on that, they say they attend the chapel at Camp David when they’re there. I think they’ve been to Camp David once, by the way.
    Do I particularly CARE that we have a president who’s Christian and attends church? No, not really.
    Do I care they lied about this AND how they didn’t know what their pastor and good friend of 25 years, Jeremiah Wright, was saying? You bet.

    Kid, you’re so right….who knew it was THIS BAD…and STILL many people don’t get it. MANY. Stunning, indeed…TRULY stunning. And, make no mistake; he’ll be a VERY powerful advocate for Hillary and it’s already started with his breath takingly inappropriate slams on Trump now..

    BY THE WAY:

    I think you’ll all realize that Obama constantly says “cable news channels” with total disdain. Yesterday it was “those who follow this candidate and watch the cable news channels for their information”….he has said that FOR YEARS about FOX…..apparently, he doesn’t realize CNN and MSNBC are ALSO “Cable news channels” or am I missing something? Have you guys noticed that?

  18. Kid says:

    Can’t watch or listen to him talk Z.

  19. geeez2014 says:

    I have to….and it is, truly, MURDER to watch, I agree. I can go about 3 minutes straight…then it’s OFF but I do like to hear; it fuels my blog fires!

  20. John M. Berger says:

    “apparently, he doesn’t realize CNN and MSNBC are ALSO “Cable news channels” or am I missing something? [Have you guys noticed that?]”

    INDEED!

  21. geeez2014 says:

    JMB, thanks! I have never quite understood his complete and utter disdain when he CONSTANTLY refers to FOX in that manner….SO WEIRD!
    HELLO, OBAMA?….it’s not the ONLY CABLE CHANNEL, and GUESS WHAT…IT IS NOT EVIL JUST BECAUSE IT”S NOT IN LOVE WITH YOU OR YOUR STUPID DAMAGING IDEOLOGIES!

  22. Mal says:

    Yep! But Trump mocks the media then has to make Fox the exception (“except for a few….”)

  23. geeez2014 says:

    And what kind of animal is NEXT going to pluck a child from its parent’s arms? Not to change the subject TOO much.

  24. Mal says:

    Yes, and I also saw another attack on the same page, Z, about a 5 year old girl being bitten by a shark in Galveston, Tx. Sharks, you can’t control, but Alligators? And I believe they are a protected species, aren’t they? WHY

  25. Kid says:

    So, I just read that the 2 year old was 10 feet from the shore. It happens at 9:15 at night. Unclear how far away the dad was at the time. Intentional outcome? At least one parent has been charged for baking his kid in a hot car.

  26. Imp says:

    @Mal…”And I believe they are a protected species, aren’t they…”

    They used to be several years ago. Now they have lotteries for major hunts 2 times a year. But they breed like rats. They’re tasty though.

  27. geeez2014 says:

    Mal, I just listened to the tragic story from the Sheriff, who I think has done a great job in the wake of stories wanting to place total blame on Disney…though they will have to pay a LOT because there was no sign about alligators, just something about being careful in the water or something.
    The expert said alligators were almost extinct but there are literally thousands of them now….
    Imp’s right.

    Kid, the Sheriff said that the kid was splashing at the very edge of water…one expert guessed the water was less than one foot… father nearby….the alligators apparently come from nowhere and snatch quickly and hold victims underwater….body was found intact, but drowned. No hint of intent even mentioned. The experts are surprised the body was intact because the alligators generally devour immediately; I’m guessing the father’s trying hard to extricate the kid might have prevented the alligator from devouring it…

  28. geeez2014 says:

    There was a sign “NO SWIMMING”….but to let your kid walk in the water and splash? I would have….they’re from Nebraska, I’m from California…who expects ALLIGATORS in a supposedly protected situation like a lagoon in Disney??

  29. Imp says:

    @Z…”.body was found intact, but drowned.”…

    Yes…however they’re saying gruesomely enough ..that he was swallowed whole and in the gator.

  30. geeez2014 says:

    DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UP UNTIL YESTERDAY, OBAMA HAD CALLED THE (Democrat) MAYOR OF ORLANDO BUT NOT RICK SCOTT, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA?
    Nice, huh?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/14/rick-scott-george-w-bush-donald-trump-called-after/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
    Yes, George Bush and Trump DID call Scott.

  31. Imp says:

    “who expects ALLIGATORS in a supposedly protected situation like a lagoon in Disney??”

    It’s Florida…I thought we all knew that. Gators are everywhere. Waterside communities? Yea…Even if they dig a large artificial lake / pond to use for building fill….gators will fill the water eventually. They’ll eat birds or your pet Chihuahua or poodle. This isn’t the first time gators have attacked people. On the flip side….we’re the largest breeding ground for over 100 species of sharks too….Florida is #1 in the world for sharks.

  32. geeez2014 says:

    Imp….you don’t have to put it that way. “I thought we all knew that” No, as I said above, in Nebraska or California, we DON’T ‘all know that.’.
    I’d NEVER think there were alligators in a man made lake or lagoon…ever.
    And I’d sure never think my 2 yr old has to be prevented from splashing his little feet in 6″ of water because of alligators.
    If there’s any guilt on Disney’s part, that’s it…..they should post it.

  33. Imp says:

    I sure as hell wasn’t being sarcastic. No where else are there alligators in America in more abundance than Florida and Louisiana. . I was informing you.

    American alligators are most commonly found in the southeastern United States, such as Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, and Texas. Florida and Louisiana have the largest populations of alligators in America, with each inhabited by around 1.5 million alligators.

    Alligators have inhabited Florida’s marshes, swamps, rivers and lakes for many centuries, and are found in all 67 counties. In recent years, Florida has experienced tremendous human population growth. Many residents seek waterfront homes, and increasingly participate in water-related activities. This can result in more frequent alligator-human interactions, and a greater potential for conflict.

    American crocodiles primarily are found in south Florida living in brackish and saltwater habitats such as ponds, coves and creeks of mangrove swamps. Recently crocodiles have moved northward within their range and even inland into freshwater areas of southeast Florida. The American crocodile is an endangered species success story. Since 1975 their numbers have increased from less than 300 to more than 1,500 adults. Today, they are classified as a threatened species. The number of crocodile complaints has risen as a result of their recovery and the increasing number of people living and recreating in south Florida.

  34. Bob says:

    I believe the scrubbing of the potential terrorist list contributes to Obama’s narrative. It is almost a CYA move in that if there is an Islamic terrorist event, nobody would be able to say that Obama ignored a threat. Without the list, there would be no evidence, and Obama, not being totally stupid, knew the possibilities of terrorists events and was laying his plans of denial very early in the game.

    Obama knows that Islamic terrorists are spreading like cancer, and I don’t believe he cares. All he cares for his his narrative because by definition, he, Barack Obama, must be right. If you don’t believe me, just ask him.

  35. Bob says:

    The alligator incident at the Disney complex in Orlando is a huge tragedy. Alligators are protected to the extent that you cannot kill one that is attacking you. You are supposed to call the animal control people, and wait for them to arrive. You cannot even run over one.

    If you are on a road in Florida and and hit an alligator, it is automatically your fault, and heavy fines will be imposed. The damned things are dangerous, hugely dangerous, and should be exterminated within any definition of a civilized area. Otherwise, you are just begging on someone or some pet becoming lunch for a dumb, ugly, dangerous predator.

  36. Kid says:

    Ok Z, Porbably another case of the first 20 things we hear are false.

  37. geeez2014 says:

    Imp; I haven’t heard he was IN the alligator…matter of fact, they were saying they were going to do all they could to find which alligator had done it and do away with it…I guess with DNA? they’d already killed something like 4 alligators in the search, right?

    Bob,it could be that…if there’s nobody on the list, nobody says “how’d you miss HIM!?” Could be.

    Are you sure about the alligator thing? The Florida expert on TV said they’re overrun with alligators now and it sounded to me he wished a lot less existed than do!!

    Imp or Bob: Why even allow them into these areas where people are? It sound like they can round them up pretty easily…..someone on TV suggested using wire ‘gates’ to keep them out but another person said they can get around them. Seems odd to me.
    Just seems like a no brainer that in these man-made lagoons, etc., they can be kept OUT.
    Of course, I’ve learned today that the waters at Disney are gov’t OWNED but not gov’t RUN, so there’s no government BLAME…. Government owned ONLY because they do draw from national rivers, streams, bays, etc…..so the waters are ‘united’ so to speak.

  38. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, you’re right..SO many rumors are flying when something like this happens…best for us all to wait till the dust settles but it’s tempting to contemplate, isn’t it.

  39. Imp says:

    I’m not a tree hugger by any stretch. Nor a gator croc lover. But they do provide a valuable service to the eco system. They’ve been around 37 million years too. We’re forever reaching further and further into the everglades here and encroaching on their natural habitats. Same thing with Florida Panthers and BLACK BEARS. . At one time we would drive on Alligator Alley ( yes, that was it’s name was and still is to most down here …now considered part of I75 ) and just west of Ft. Lauderdale…about 15 miles west….civilization ended. And for the next 100 miles….nothing but open rivers of grass..the Everglades. You were warned to get gas before you crossed too. The next station going west bound was 100 miles away in Naples. No rest stops…small shoulders and two lanes. Get behind a Winnebago and you might not be able to pass for 20 minutes. And lot’s of wrecks too. It’s 4 lanes now….but the speed limit is pretty open.

    Now…you go 25 miles west…and the Indians have a gas station and a huge truck stop restaurant. Right smack in the middle of what used to be wilderness.

  40. Imp says:

    And given the fact that in the past few years here…there have only been about 23 attacks by gators. Seems to me Mooslems are far more dangerous to humans and civilization that a dumb animal that has every right to be here.

  41. geeez2014 says:

    Imp, what prompted this huge uptick in alligators? I heard this morning they were really getting low in numbers and now are practically EVERYWHERE!??

    Good point about which is more dangerous….no alligator to date has entered ANY bar and shot at 100 people, that’s for sure!

  42. Kid says:

    @Z, Yes.

    @IMP. Agreed. We are stewards of our planet to some degree. We should see to it we don’t kill them all off. The Earth being a self-correcting system physically, and biologically means that things are kept in balance until we screw with it. I think about things being in balance a lot. Lots of moving parts.

  43. Imp says:

    @Z..it’s nearing the end of their mating season…late spring and they’re looking for nests and nesting places and females. We have controlled hunts by permits. Only around 5,000 or so can be taken and killed. That’s out of as population of 1.5 million or so. Here…they’re as common and as natural as a fish is. And a few years back…I ran over one on I95. Big sucker too. We don’t have “Caution Gator Crossing” signs like they do for deer…LOL

  44. Imp says:

    “no alligator to date has entered ANY bar and shot at 100 people, that’s for sure!”

    Or reached for the check on the table too…..arms are too short.

  45. Z,
    apparently, he doesn’t realize CNN and MSNBC are ALSO “Cable news channels”

    Obama has FDS: Fox Derangement Syndrome.

  46. Z,
    Yes, Hillary has changed her mannerisms. Coaching.

  47. Just spotted this information at Infidel Bloggers Alliance:
    2011 – The CIA canceled an anti-terrorism conference scheduled for August 10-12, 2011. An email sent to conference registrants explained that the Department of Homeland Security would be formulating new guidelines for vetting speakers and screening presentation content.hosted by the CIA’s Threat Management Unit. https://counterjihadreport.com/tag/fbi-document-purge/

    2013 – The administration pulled the plug on DHS National Targeting Center. The reason given was, “They claimed that since the Islamist groups in question were not Specially Designated Terrorist Organizations (SDTOs) tracking individuals related to these groups was a violation of the travelers’ civil liberties. These were almost exclusively foreign nationals: When were they granted the civil rights and liberties of American citizens?”.
    In the six months before being neutered the National Targeting Center had identified 300 terrorists.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/263284-administration-nixed-probe-into-southern-california
    ******
    San Bernardino:
    Supposedly Enrique had stronger connection with terrorists then I originally heard.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-bernardino-shooting-prosecutors-say-enrique-marquez-jr-knew-aspiring-jihadists/

  48. Imp says:

    AOW..yea…honesty and integrity coaching….it doesn’t come natural to that hooved beast.

  49. geeez2014 says:

    AOW, I wish Trump would allow people to coach HIM. If the election were tomorrow, I could never vote for him. There aren’t enough showers to take to cleanse myself after having voted for that man. And yes, everyone…I TOTALLY GET IT..I get the SCOTUS thing maybe better than some of you….but TODAY? NO WAY. period.

    thanks for all that information about the CIA, etc…..we are SO SCREWED it’s unbelievable…and what media’s covering all THIS? NONE.

  50. Kid says:

    Z,, Yes we are screwed, 🙂 democrat voters pay no attention to integrity or any of the things most conservatives do. I don’t think there is a conservative or even non-democrat that could run today and get enough votes.

    Personally I have no idea what Trump said today. Nor care. Outside of the meeting with NRA about disallowing moslem vermin the inability to buy guns, which I’m fine with. I’m fine with disallowing Felons (some of them) the inability to buy guns. Then again, how would you stop any of them from buying one? The san berdarnino vermin went out of state and got totally California Illegal guns from private individuals? ANd they can’t keep young kids from getting heroin in any city in America, so the Trump NRA thing is all for show anyway.

    Anyway, what did Trump do today that requires a shower 🙂

  51. geeez2014 says:

    Kid, that’s the problem; we can’t stop guns. EVER. NO WAY. And we shouldn’t want to.
    ODD that this has reached a fever pitch only in the last five or seven years, isn’t it? Time after time after time….big shootings. Never happened that often or that big.

    They can keep kids from getting heroin if there isn’t any heroin…..heroin doesn’t have ANY good part of it for which to make that legal or even condone it. Guns have.

    There isn’t a day that I hear Trump when I don’t find him utterly loathsome.. I notice the way he says things and they indicate such horrible personality traits that I literally shrink back from him. I despise the man.
    Here’s Hillary taking coaching (mentioned above) and really benefiting from it…calm, nonplussed, informative….ALL WRONG, of course…she’s DEAD WRONG….but she’s learned to make it sound SO GOOD. Trump says a lot of the right things we all agree with but MAN, ALL the wrong way.

    And yes, I KNOW a lot of you don’t care. I’m fine with that.
    I do care. That’s apparently just me. And I have no choice and I have never voted for anybody I literally HATED before. This will be a first…..
    Then straight to the shower. For a year. 😉

  52. geeez2014 says:

    “AN ARREST IS NOT IMMINENT…WE”RE NOT SURE WHAT CHARGES WILL BE BROUGHT”…about the WIFE of the killer WHO ADMITS SHE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO KILL A LOT OF PEOPLE AND BOUGHT AMMO WITH HIM AND DROVE HIM THERE IN THE PAST.

    OUR GOV’T ISN’T QUITE SURE THEY SHOULD ARREST HER OR FOR WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?

    I have guests tonight…thank GOD I can get my mind off this S***T

    see y’all later.

  53. geeez2014 says:

    A friend just emailed me this: “I thought I was the only one who had wondered how Cassius Clay can be a hero and Donald Trump is so terrible. Doesn’t make sense to me. When I watched all the news last week, I thought Trump brags and speaks his mind and its not ok, Clay did and he’s an idol”

    She has a (small) point.

  54. Imp says:

    ” I wish Trump would allow people to coach HIM. ..”

    Ms. Z..I much prefer an unfiltered non castrated, Un PC man… without the mangina…than I do a lying POS who should be in jail for treason and or espionage. Shame on us…shame..if we allow the first POTUS candidate woman, under a CRIMINAL , FBI investigation and knowingly took millions from Islamist misogynists to even be considered for this sacred office.

    Feminists the world over ought to be appalled and outraged that this bottom feeder took money from women haters and women killers. As well as the Gays who she’s abandoned and thrown under her bus…to advance Islamist insanity and immigration to our shores. I guess they must have missed the Greta interview with this Orlando “imam” last night. Cause I haven’t heard one goddamn peep from women about this woman hating gay hating POS that should be banished from our state…and our country. But this happens all over America…in all these mosques….and if we bash Islime…we can be prosecuted or banned from our jobs? Harassed and vilified for speaking a truth? Gays had better get their act together…it should be clear to all of them now…that the demrats wish to protect mooslem murderers than them.

  55. Kid says:

    I gotta say I’m with IMP on this one. I’m not so concerned that we have a polished teleprompter Jesus representing us. I’d be more distrustful of Trump if he had someone filtering everything he said. As much as I might wince myself from time to time, I value the real.talk. Who else has even suggested we keep moslems from coming here? The FBI says they can’t tell you whether any of them are ISIS or not, and Trump hasn’t even brought that up yet. I wish he would .

    I’ll take common sense given in any state of unpoiished and non-PC over anything delivered through a filter. The filter is what we’ve had up until now. And it ain’t workin. If Trump is being honest to any kind of degree and if he gets elected, 2-3 years form now, we might just all be saying “Yea, well I guess that is what was needed to break the political mold and get someone in the white house who does something that makes some sense.” Or similar.

    I gotta tell you, I haven’t seen Anything happen in this country that made any kind of sense since Reagan was in the white house. I’ll take the sense if it is there, and not sweat the plumbers crack that pops out form time to time.

  56. geeez2014 says:

    I disagree with you both…Oh HOW I wish I didn’t.

  57. John M. Berger says:

    “I disagree with you both”

    ??????

  58. geeez2014 says:

    John…both the comments above mine!

  59. Mal says:

    I get your point, Z, and agree with you about Trump…………but still voting for him! Doesn’t make sense? In today’s world, it no longer has to, given our situation and choices.

  60. Z,
    If the election were tomorrow, I could never vote for [Trump]. There aren’t enough showers to take to cleanse myself after having voted for that man.

    Remember the alternative.

  61. Mal says:

    AOW, the alternative would require even MORE showers, because the things against Trump are all verbal…..things he has said… while Hillary’s are all actions and deeds that have cost many lives. She is morally bankrupt. At least Trump has been addressing the problems, while “the alternative” is in denial by wanting to continue with Obama’s policies. Those are my thoughts, anyway.

  62. John M. Berger says:

    @Mal,
    My thoughts, as well!

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